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Mark Drakeford 11:26 - Dec 13 with 13568 viewsraynor94

Has resigned with immediate effect

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Mark Drakeford on 15:33 - Mar 20 with 764 viewsBoundy

Mark Drakeford on 15:23 - Mar 20 by Wingstandwood

Wales is being destroyed from within by the very Welsh Government that RESISTS everything and anything that would make Wales a better place. We've had a quarter of a century of nothing but blatant ruination!!!!

The reason being? The politicians need the 'poverty vote' to sustain a hold on power, along with the requirement to feed the 'jobs-for-boys' network via the third sector, quango-land, political patronage and party political system/nomination etc to get their hands on as much filthy lucre as possible.

The evidence is stark, because the proof shows an orchestrated racket focussed upon the selfish and self serving, whom happen to care absolutely s*d all about Wales or its inhabitants!


Anyone who votes for Welsh Labour is not only morally
corrupt but a traitor to its people.I really can't fathom out how despite their outstanding success at failure they still manage to hold onto power.Why are there so many willing to accept failure as a badge of honour when we could and should be so much better off in all aspects of our life .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Mark Drakeford on 15:47 - Mar 20 with 753 viewsWingstandwood

Mark Drakeford on 15:33 - Mar 20 by Boundy

Anyone who votes for Welsh Labour is not only morally
corrupt but a traitor to its people.I really can't fathom out how despite their outstanding success at failure they still manage to hold onto power.Why are there so many willing to accept failure as a badge of honour when we could and should be so much better off in all aspects of our life .


That 'Dr Winston' on here came out with something that is forever sticking in my mind i.e. supporting and voting for devolved Cardiff government has been nothing but (his words!) "civic suicide"

Argus!

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Mark Drakeford on 16:36 - Mar 20 with 709 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 10:22 - Mar 20 by Wingstandwood

Richard Selby, Director, Pro Steel Engineering:

QUOTE: “I am hugely disappointed and frustrated by the First Minister’s decision. The current M4 infrastructure is on its last legs. Pro Steel strengthened one bridge and it was in a terrible state; this section of motorway was built during a time when little attention was paid to quality control.

The level of congestion will also continue to infuriate business owners and commuters for years to come and will only be detrimental to the economy of South Wales. This is a major blow for improving economic prosperity that would benefit the whole of Wales.” END OF QUOTE.

But at least we'll have "clean air" when as Mr Elite-Engineer also pointed out that the blockage of an entire section of a vital commerce/business route is an inevitability when it has to be "shut for major repairs."

But don't worry fantasising Welsh-Nat nutters will come to the rescue with words of defiance by means of astral-projection from cloud-cuckoo-land to the very location, where they will solve the entire crisis with a (as per usual) load of bullsh1t, day dreams and hot air!


Never heard of this Richard Selby.
Not being rude ,but do we care what he thinks ?

What about the HS2 great train robbery and the ongoing Crown Estate wealth extraction ?
I guess we are all on the Wales side in these issues ?

Any site gammons want to tell us why this treatment of wales is anything other than disgraceful ?

Annibyniaeth.

Where are the uk govt funds to replace our EU funding ?
[Post edited 20 Mar 16:37]

Beware of the Risen People

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Mark Drakeford on 16:41 - Mar 20 with 703 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 15:33 - Mar 20 by Boundy

Anyone who votes for Welsh Labour is not only morally
corrupt but a traitor to its people.I really can't fathom out how despite their outstanding success at failure they still manage to hold onto power.Why are there so many willing to accept failure as a badge of honour when we could and should be so much better off in all aspects of our life .


Welsh working class people vote Labour..

We never ever vote Tory.
The Tory party is the English Nationalist party - ghouls like Truss, Johnson and Mogg. Or the Farage fringe idiots.

Beware of the Risen People

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Mark Drakeford on 16:45 - Mar 20 with 704 viewsWingstandwood

Mark Drakeford on 16:36 - Mar 20 by Kilkennyjack

Never heard of this Richard Selby.
Not being rude ,but do we care what he thinks ?

What about the HS2 great train robbery and the ongoing Crown Estate wealth extraction ?
I guess we are all on the Wales side in these issues ?

Any site gammons want to tell us why this treatment of wales is anything other than disgraceful ?

Annibyniaeth.

Where are the uk govt funds to replace our EU funding ?
[Post edited 20 Mar 16:37]


Never heard of Wales CBI and the damning facts and evidence also?

Argus!

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Mark Drakeford on 16:57 - Mar 20 with 686 viewsReslovenSwan1

Mark Drakeford on 16:28 - Mar 18 by SullutaCreturned

it's almost as if they are handpicked...


You will have noticed the last three first ministers have all come from Welsh speaking communities not necessarily Cardiff. Rhodri, Carwyn and Mark all fluent Welsh speakers. It is a meritocracy or at least demonstration of an ability to network. It is a reflection of where the talent is.

The Senedd is filled with the persons people vote for. Most do not come from Cardiff.

Wise sage since Toshack era

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Mark Drakeford on 17:29 - Mar 20 with 671 viewsWingstandwood

Mark Drakeford on 16:36 - Mar 20 by Kilkennyjack

Never heard of this Richard Selby.
Not being rude ,but do we care what he thinks ?

What about the HS2 great train robbery and the ongoing Crown Estate wealth extraction ?
I guess we are all on the Wales side in these issues ?

Any site gammons want to tell us why this treatment of wales is anything other than disgraceful ?

Annibyniaeth.

Where are the uk govt funds to replace our EU funding ?
[Post edited 20 Mar 16:37]


Outside of personal interest, or any political party politics and nationalist ideology ? What would your alternative to a vital relief road be?
[Post edited 20 Mar 17:34]

Argus!

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Mark Drakeford on 18:00 - Mar 20 with 651 viewsReslovenSwan1

Mark Drakeford on 17:29 - Mar 20 by Wingstandwood

Outside of personal interest, or any political party politics and nationalist ideology ? What would your alternative to a vital relief road be?
[Post edited 20 Mar 17:34]


A third tunnel at Bryn Glas would definitely be useful. In my experience hold up occur when there are crashes and lane closures. It takes hours to resolve. Traffic holdup can certainly be speeded up with GPS technology and more resources.

Alternative should be looked at like getting all trucks on shuttle trains and going trough the Severn Tunnel. Every two hours. Then it is a matter of scheduling.

The WAG is encouraging more people to go on public transport. This is sensible

Wise sage since Toshack era

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Mark Drakeford on 18:16 - Mar 20 with 631 viewsTogg

Mark Drakeford on 16:57 - Mar 20 by ReslovenSwan1

You will have noticed the last three first ministers have all come from Welsh speaking communities not necessarily Cardiff. Rhodri, Carwyn and Mark all fluent Welsh speakers. It is a meritocracy or at least demonstration of an ability to network. It is a reflection of where the talent is.

The Senedd is filled with the persons people vote for. Most do not come from Cardiff.


Oh but they gravitate towards Cardiff. So fluent Welsh speakers good for them but are non Welsh speakers not worthy?
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Mark Drakeford on 20:40 - Mar 20 with 569 viewsSullutaCreturned

Mark Drakeford on 16:36 - Mar 20 by Kilkennyjack

Never heard of this Richard Selby.
Not being rude ,but do we care what he thinks ?

What about the HS2 great train robbery and the ongoing Crown Estate wealth extraction ?
I guess we are all on the Wales side in these issues ?

Any site gammons want to tell us why this treatment of wales is anything other than disgraceful ?

Annibyniaeth.

Where are the uk govt funds to replace our EU funding ?
[Post edited 20 Mar 16:37]


OK, All the things listed by you, HS2 etc, of course we are on Wales side there and we want better for Wales.

Why should that mean we just blindly accept the total incompetence of the Senedd?

You never seem to understand that criticising the Senedd is in no way and endorsement of what Westminster does, specially when it's bad for Wales.

As for the label "gammon" can you see where applies to yourself?

PS, Richard Selby, yes why should we care when a top business person in Wales points out the Senedd's failings and tells of the impending problems the Senedd is creating? it's not as if we care about what happens in Wales.

Screw your head on a bit tighter, Kilky.

PPS, what about all the money wsted by the Senedd this year, does it come anywhere near as muh as the EU ued to give us back out of our own money?
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Mark Drakeford on 22:16 - Mar 20 with 531 viewsunion_jack

Mark Drakeford on 16:36 - Mar 20 by Kilkennyjack

Never heard of this Richard Selby.
Not being rude ,but do we care what he thinks ?

What about the HS2 great train robbery and the ongoing Crown Estate wealth extraction ?
I guess we are all on the Wales side in these issues ?

Any site gammons want to tell us why this treatment of wales is anything other than disgraceful ?

Annibyniaeth.

Where are the uk govt funds to replace our EU funding ?
[Post edited 20 Mar 16:37]


On this replacement funding issue, answer these questions.

What funds did Wales get from the EU?
How long had Wales been in receipt if them?

And when you’ve answered them, answer this,

Why does Wales still need them?

Are Sperm Whales the reason the sea is so salty?
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Mark Drakeford on 22:41 - Mar 20 with 512 viewsDr_Winston

Not a single penny spent in Wales ever came from the EU.

The UK was a net contributor to EU funds from day one.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Mark Drakeford on 06:06 - Mar 21 with 489 viewsWhiterockin

Mark Drakeford on 22:41 - Mar 20 by Dr_Winston

Not a single penny spent in Wales ever came from the EU.

The UK was a net contributor to EU funds from day one.


That is so difficult for so many to understand, whether brexit was right or wrong is another matter, but any money that came to any part of the UK from the EU was paid for by the UK with interest.
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Mark Drakeford on 08:04 - Mar 21 with 458 viewsDr_Winston

Mark Drakeford on 06:06 - Mar 21 by Whiterockin

That is so difficult for so many to understand, whether brexit was right or wrong is another matter, but any money that came to any part of the UK from the EU was paid for by the UK with interest.


They don't want to understand. These are the same type of people who can justify the damage done since 1999 and howl for more of it.

Opening their eyes and finally viewing reality would be almost painful for them.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Mark Drakeford on 08:21 - Mar 21 with 452 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Mark Drakeford on 22:41 - Mar 20 by Dr_Winston

Not a single penny spent in Wales ever came from the EU.

The UK was a net contributor to EU funds from day one.


Correct it was money paid by UK taxpayers to the EU a little of which was "returned " for EU approved schemes.

Like the heads of the valley road funded by UK taxpayers via the EU. Funny how Drakeford turned down the UK government's offer to fund the M4 relief road yet accepted UK taxpayers money to fund the heads of the valley road via EU grants.

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Mark Drakeford on 08:43 - Mar 21 with 437 viewsmajorraglan

Mark Drakeford on 22:41 - Mar 20 by Dr_Winston

Not a single penny spent in Wales ever came from the EU.

The UK was a net contributor to EU funds from day one.


The U.K. was a net contributor as were Germany and many other countries while those who had poorer infrastructure etc were beneficiaries as money was given to improve infrastructure etc and level things out. Pretty much like the UKs levelling out fund which has been controversial as many argue it’s not doing a great deal of levelling out and that disproportionate amounts of cash are being spent in blue areas.

The funds spent in Wales did come from the EU, but the money that the EU was receiving were originally contributions of member states. You can argue that it wasn’t EU money as we were net contributors, but the money was sent to Wales by the EU.
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Mark Drakeford on 15:11 - Mar 21 with 363 viewsFlashberryjack

Mark Drakeford on 08:43 - Mar 21 by majorraglan

The U.K. was a net contributor as were Germany and many other countries while those who had poorer infrastructure etc were beneficiaries as money was given to improve infrastructure etc and level things out. Pretty much like the UKs levelling out fund which has been controversial as many argue it’s not doing a great deal of levelling out and that disproportionate amounts of cash are being spent in blue areas.

The funds spent in Wales did come from the EU, but the money that the EU was receiving were originally contributions of member states. You can argue that it wasn’t EU money as we were net contributors, but the money was sent to Wales by the EU.


So we gave money to the EU, they took some money out of it for administration, then gave some to poorer countries to improve their infrastructure, then what was left over, gave to us to improve our infrastructure, brilliant.

Hello
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Mark Drakeford on 15:47 - Mar 21 with 337 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Mark Drakeford on 15:11 - Mar 21 by Flashberryjack

So we gave money to the EU, they took some money out of it for administration, then gave some to poorer countries to improve their infrastructure, then what was left over, gave to us to improve our infrastructure, brilliant.


And told us what to spend it on.

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Mark Drakeford on 16:13 - Mar 21 with 314 viewsWingstandwood

Mark Drakeford on 20:40 - Mar 20 by SullutaCreturned

OK, All the things listed by you, HS2 etc, of course we are on Wales side there and we want better for Wales.

Why should that mean we just blindly accept the total incompetence of the Senedd?

You never seem to understand that criticising the Senedd is in no way and endorsement of what Westminster does, specially when it's bad for Wales.

As for the label "gammon" can you see where applies to yourself?

PS, Richard Selby, yes why should we care when a top business person in Wales points out the Senedd's failings and tells of the impending problems the Senedd is creating? it's not as if we care about what happens in Wales.

Screw your head on a bit tighter, Kilky.

PPS, what about all the money wsted by the Senedd this year, does it come anywhere near as muh as the EU ued to give us back out of our own money?


He is 'useful rubbish', because he shows the mindset of a stereotypical (Royston Jac o' The North aside) Welsh Nat who gets angry at evidence that exposes the fact that Wales is now in the deepest sH1t ever, because of devolution.

Yet more damning reporting in SWEP over the last few hours about Morriston A+E being full to the extent where accompanying relatives have been asked to leave the dept to create available seats, and of patients leaving to go home without ever seeing a doctor.

Add to that i.e. SHOCKING evidence about Welsh schools. But do not worry deluded crackpots will ride to the rescue with a verse or two from "Yma o Hyd", that'll fix things!

Bottom of the league table Wales, with bottom of the league table yokels more than happy for it to be that way!

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/mar/21/pupils-wales-disadvantaged-chi

Argus!

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Mark Drakeford on 16:18 - Mar 21 with 307 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 22:41 - Mar 20 by Dr_Winston

Not a single penny spent in Wales ever came from the EU.

The UK was a net contributor to EU funds from day one.


Wales got no money from UK and became poor.
Nice European people said, you are very poor so have some structural funding.
Wales now again getting no money from UK.

Its a qurstion of getting investment or not.

You seem to think that the UK government forever short changing Wales is a great outcome.
Very weird.
You seem quite proud of the fact that Wales is treated so badly.

Beware of the Risen People

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Mark Drakeford on 16:20 - Mar 21 with 303 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 16:45 - Mar 20 by Wingstandwood

Never heard of Wales CBI and the damning facts and evidence also?


Business people have skills for running businesses.
You will find them on both sides of most discussions.

Perhaps your man should stand for election ?

Beware of the Risen People

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Mark Drakeford on 16:22 - Mar 21 with 301 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 18:00 - Mar 20 by ReslovenSwan1

A third tunnel at Bryn Glas would definitely be useful. In my experience hold up occur when there are crashes and lane closures. It takes hours to resolve. Traffic holdup can certainly be speeded up with GPS technology and more resources.

Alternative should be looked at like getting all trucks on shuttle trains and going trough the Severn Tunnel. Every two hours. Then it is a matter of scheduling.

The WAG is encouraging more people to go on public transport. This is sensible


This is the thinking we want to see.

Ignoring Climate Change is a bit dumb.
The modern jobs are in the green industries.

Beware of the Risen People

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Mark Drakeford on 16:25 - Mar 21 with 300 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 20:40 - Mar 20 by SullutaCreturned

OK, All the things listed by you, HS2 etc, of course we are on Wales side there and we want better for Wales.

Why should that mean we just blindly accept the total incompetence of the Senedd?

You never seem to understand that criticising the Senedd is in no way and endorsement of what Westminster does, specially when it's bad for Wales.

As for the label "gammon" can you see where applies to yourself?

PS, Richard Selby, yes why should we care when a top business person in Wales points out the Senedd's failings and tells of the impending problems the Senedd is creating? it's not as if we care about what happens in Wales.

Screw your head on a bit tighter, Kilky.

PPS, what about all the money wsted by the Senedd this year, does it come anywhere near as muh as the EU ued to give us back out of our own money?


The elephant in the room when it comes to public finances is the £40billion loss of tax revenue every year due to Brexit.

It remains a dumb ass idea.

The gammon know who they are.
The gammon love Brexit lies.
Their hero Johnson has done a runner.

Beware of the Risen People

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Mark Drakeford on 16:30 - Mar 21 with 297 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 08:21 - Mar 21 by felixstowe_jack

Correct it was money paid by UK taxpayers to the EU a little of which was "returned " for EU approved schemes.

Like the heads of the valley road funded by UK taxpayers via the EU. Funny how Drakeford turned down the UK government's offer to fund the M4 relief road yet accepted UK taxpayers money to fund the heads of the valley road via EU grants.




If you dont understand this then not sure you should be telling us your views.

Beware of the Risen People

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Mark Drakeford on 16:32 - Mar 21 with 293 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 06:06 - Mar 21 by Whiterockin

That is so difficult for so many to understand, whether brexit was right or wrong is another matter, but any money that came to any part of the UK from the EU was paid for by the UK with interest.


But it never came to Wales from UK.
The UK never gave a damn.

Beware of the Risen People

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