| Labour - Then & Now on 10:40 - May 2 with 1199 views | perchrockjack |
Nice shoes.
Not Primark for sure
They ll be made to measure a man s size 9
Hypocrite and another using "working people" for own aggrandisement . |  |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 13:04 - May 2 with 1142 views | LeonWasGod |
He seems like a nasty piece of work - his twitter account is riddled with not so thinly veiled racist remarks. |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 13:16 - May 2 with 1136 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Labour - Then & Now on 13:04 - May 2 by LeonWasGod |
He seems like a nasty piece of work - his twitter account is riddled with not so thinly veiled racist remarks. |
I assume you mean David Vance? Appalling creature. [Post edited 2 May 2017 13:19]
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| Labour - Then & Now on 13:20 - May 2 with 1126 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Labour - Then & Now on 10:40 - May 2 by perchrockjack |
Nice shoes.
Not Primark for sure
They ll be made to measure a man s size 9
Hypocrite and another using "working people" for own aggrandisement . |
Absolute nonsense. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 13:25 - May 2 with 1116 views | londonlisa2001 |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 13:20 - May 2 by LeonWasGod |
Darren actually 
Yes, Vance. never heard of him before, but seems some sort of self publicist using the same tactics as vermin like Katie Hopkins. |
Pathetic bullyboy making fun of everyone that isn't white, male, staunchly heterosexual, middle class. Classic UKIP / Trumper.
The irony of the post is that he'd sneer at a miner if he ever met one.
Quite why Darran is laughing at it after already saying he'll be voting Labour is beyond me. | | | |
| Labour - Then & Now on 13:29 - May 2 with 1110 views | perchrockjack |
Nonsense is what you specialise Lisa ,with a deeply misplaced arrogant slant
Those shoes are not Primark, nor cheap
And yeah, he looks like the type of canvasser Labour could use for the wavering voter
Absolute jerk
Complete hypocrite
Utterly using working class people for own ends | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 13:51 - May 2 with 1094 views | Gowerjack |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 13:16 - May 2 by londonlisa2001 |
I assume you mean David Vance? Appalling creature. [Post edited 2 May 2017 13:19]
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Agreed.
He is a vile little man. |  |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 14:36 - May 2 with 1042 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Labour - Then & Now on 13:29 - May 2 by perchrockjack |
Nonsense is what you specialise Lisa ,with a deeply misplaced arrogant slant
Those shoes are not Primark, nor cheap
And yeah, he looks like the type of canvasser Labour could use for the wavering voter
Absolute jerk
Complete hypocrite
Utterly using working class people for own ends |
Why is he a hypocrite?
Your problem is that you are so caught up in notions of class divide, that you think anyone with any money or success can't possibly believe in any social equality without being a hypocrite.
Izzard may well have any number of views I personally disagree with. But he doesn't half put his money where his mouth is. It would be easy for him to just publicise causes from the comfort of his sofa, but he doesn't. He gets his ar*e out and puts in his own time. Whether it be canvassing, or running stupid numbers of marathons to support causes he believes in.
Some of the high profile Labour supporters I'd agree with you on. They sit with their millions sniping away and doing nothing. But Izzard is certainly not one of them. And ars*holes like Vance have a pop because they are so bloody insecure about their own sense of masculinity that they can't cope with a bloke in a skirt. It's pathetic.
Good for Izzard. As I say, I don't agree with a lot of his views, but I have a great deal of respect for someone that says 'this is my life and I'll live it the way I want to'. He doesn't hurt anyone else, so why take the p*ss out of him? He's more of a man than people like David Vance will ever be. | | | |
| Labour - Then & Now on 14:41 - May 2 with 1034 views | blueytheblue |
I take the piss out of Izzard for him being utterly wrong on basically everything. So desparately wants to be a Labourite of note he stands for any election... and loses them all.
He's also one of the worst luvvie lefties. As his experience on Question Time showed he's got no real debating tactic other than SHOUTING LOUDLY OVER OTHERS. Much like Russell Brand, when people basically put him in his place, sat there with a face like a smacked face.
He's got principles? Fine. He's got a delusional view of his relative importance in the political sphere tho... | |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 14:53 - May 2 with 1025 views | Kerouac |
I've got no idea who that Vance is but those photos sum it up perfectly.
Better than a thousand words. |  |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 14:57 - May 2 with 1021 views | Darran |
| Labour - Then & Now on 14:53 - May 2 by Kerouac |
I've got no idea who that Vance is but those photos sum it up perfectly.
Better than a thousand words. |
Well said my friend. |  |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 15:01 - May 2 with 1012 views | Highjack |
There are a lot of worse people than Eddie Izard. She definitely genuinely cares but she struggles to have any sort of debate without shouting over the other person and generally being annoying. It's strange because she is clearly very intelligent, but is one of those people who speaks before she thinks. |  |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 15:07 - May 2 with 1006 views | Lohengrin |
| Labour - Then & Now on 14:53 - May 2 by Kerouac |
I've got no idea who that Vance is but those photos sum it up perfectly.
Better than a thousand words. |
I've never heard of Vance either, mate, nor have I any axe to grind with Eddie Izzard. He can dress how he likes, do or say whatever he wants. It's a free country, as the saying goes.
I do however work in heavy industry with boys very much like the collier in the OP photo and I can say with absolute certainty what their reaction would be to a bloke in a frock and heels canvassing for Labour... it would start with a shake of the head and end with a muttered "fckin' ridiculous."
Industry, ours especially, is in the sh!t. They are all hoping for another Ernie Bevin to come along, Labour coming up with Danny La Rue isn't going to cut it.  |  |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 15:11 - May 2 with 999 views | Darran |
| Labour - Then & Now on 15:07 - May 2 by Lohengrin |
I've never heard of Vance either, mate, nor have I any axe to grind with Eddie Izzard. He can dress how he likes, do or say whatever he wants. It's a free country, as the saying goes.
I do however work in heavy industry with boys very much like the collier in the OP photo and I can say with absolute certainty what their reaction would be to a bloke in a frock and heels canvassing for Labour... it would start with a shake of the head and end with a muttered "fckin' ridiculous."
Industry, ours especially, is in the sh!t. They are all hoping for another Ernie Bevin to come along, Labour coming up with Danny La Rue isn't going to cut it. |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 19:46 - May 2 with 901 views | perchrockjack |
Bluesy beat me to it Lisa
Now, explain to me why he is NOT | |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 19:54 - May 2 with 890 views | sherpajacob |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbians_and_Gays_Support_the_Miners
Miners and cross dressers, both demonised by Tories and their out dated prejudice.
If people want to attack izzard, do it with debate, argument and logic.
If you attack him because he sometimes wears a dress, that says everything we need to know about you.
And why exactly are there no working miners in the UK left, yet we import coal from Russia and america [Post edited 2 May 2017 19:58]
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| Labour - Then & Now on 19:57 - May 2 with 889 views | LeonWasGod |
| Labour - Then & Now on 14:36 - May 2 by londonlisa2001 |
Why is he a hypocrite?
Your problem is that you are so caught up in notions of class divide, that you think anyone with any money or success can't possibly believe in any social equality without being a hypocrite.
Izzard may well have any number of views I personally disagree with. But he doesn't half put his money where his mouth is. It would be easy for him to just publicise causes from the comfort of his sofa, but he doesn't. He gets his ar*e out and puts in his own time. Whether it be canvassing, or running stupid numbers of marathons to support causes he believes in.
Some of the high profile Labour supporters I'd agree with you on. They sit with their millions sniping away and doing nothing. But Izzard is certainly not one of them. And ars*holes like Vance have a pop because they are so bloody insecure about their own sense of masculinity that they can't cope with a bloke in a skirt. It's pathetic.
Good for Izzard. As I say, I don't agree with a lot of his views, but I have a great deal of respect for someone that says 'this is my life and I'll live it the way I want to'. He doesn't hurt anyone else, so why take the p*ss out of him? He's more of a man than people like David Vance will ever be. |
Well said Lisa. Agree with all of that. Was going to post something similar earlier, but for some reason work expect me to earn some of my salary.
I followed his marathon exploits as closely as I could and he came across as a fairly genuine person. The world would be a better place if more people were like him rather than like the bitter person in the OP tweet. If someone doesn't like his politics, they don't have to vote for him (as I doubt I ever would). | | | |
| Labour - Then & Now on 20:00 - May 2 with 880 views | perchrockjack |
Touching stuff
Now ,marathons for charity ,are brought to the table | |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 20:14 - May 2 with 855 views | Lohengrin |
| Labour - Then & Now on 19:54 - May 2 by sherpajacob |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbians_and_Gays_Support_the_Miners
Miners and cross dressers, both demonised by Tories and their out dated prejudice.
If people want to attack izzard, do it with debate, argument and logic.
If you attack him because he sometimes wears a dress, that says everything we need to know about you.
And why exactly are there no working miners in the UK left, yet we import coal from Russia and america [Post edited 2 May 2017 19:58]
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"Debate, argument and logic."
Good grief, mun! Politics is a serious business, at least it is for those who have to live with the consequences of poor politics. Eddie Izzard is a stand-up comic in drag for crying out loud! Do you really think thousands of Welsh steelworkers have their fingers crossed for somebody draped in a fox stole and fishnets singing Underneath the Lamplight to come to their rescue?
Paying the mortgage, running the car, giving the kids a headstart. That's what matters. Serious politics for serious people looking for workable solutions. | |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 20:26 - May 2 with 832 views | acejack3065 |
I met Eddie Izzard in Swansea last year before the Manics gig in the stadium. He's a great guy, not afraid to say what he believes in and then do something about it. It's easy enough to be a famous, sexist, racist, trans-phobic c**t on twitter these days.
Personally I don't give a f**k what anyone else thinks, I'm proud to say that he's a Labour man. Damn f**king proud. |  | | |
| Labour - Then & Now on 20:26 - May 2 with 831 views | blueytheblue |
Hyperbole much?
Who is seeing him as a problem for his comedy? ( Admittedly I don't find him that funny, doesn't mean he isn't to others ).
Who is seeing him as a problem for the marathons? ( Admittedly not a fan of sports relief, I'd prefer people to donate to charities on a regular ongoing basis than just paying on one off events ).
The problem is where Izzard believes he's some kind of political visionary when the reality is he can't handle people with opposing views or accept he may be wrong. The Question Time debacle wasn't a case of him being treated the way he was due to the clothes, the makeup or being a luvvie. It was because Izzard wouldn't let others get a word in, made the whole show about him - when shot down by audience, Dimbleby and other quests, he pouted.
Izzard wanted to be Mayor of London. Izzard wanted to be MP. Izzard wanted to be MEP. Izzard wanted to be elected to NEC. He's failed in each and every political activity. There's a reason for it, starts and ends with Izzard himself. No excuses. | |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 20:27 - May 2 with 825 views | Darran |
| Labour - Then & Now on 20:26 - May 2 by acejack3065 |
I met Eddie Izzard in Swansea last year before the Manics gig in the stadium. He's a great guy, not afraid to say what he believes in and then do something about it. It's easy enough to be a famous, sexist, racist, trans-phobic c**t on twitter these days.
Personally I don't give a f**k what anyone else thinks, I'm proud to say that he's a Labour man. Damn f**king proud. |
Were you proud of his performance on QT? | |
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| Labour - Then & Now on 20:31 - May 2 with 821 views | acejack3065 |
| Labour - Then & Now on 20:27 - May 2 by Darran |
Were you proud of his performance on QT? |
Can't say I'd be proud of anyone's QT performance apart from the panel that tore Nick Griffin a new one all those years ago. Personally I thought he had a bit of a shocker on Europe and I even disagreed with him on several EU issues in person. | | | |
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