| Obafemi deal - an assessment. 14:06 - Jan 29 with 987 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
From Wales on line.
"Burnley hold the option to make the move permanent in the summer, and it's understood that is VIRTUALLY CERTAIN to happen given the structure of the deal."
Swansea city have securities with this deal. These are legal document and mean cash depending on a specific circumstance or time as understand it.
What else is "virtually certain"? Is 1/40 virtually certain? It is Burnley's odds of being promoted. Does that sound credible?
If true of course should not be allowed if Swansea still have to got to Turf Moor.
If Burnely have a bad run Swansea could have a vested interest in losing or at least not winning, £4m good reasons.
As it happens Swansea were beaten 4-0 on 15th of October so Swansea will not have a vested interest to lose to anyone. In fact thy will have a vested interest to beat Sheff Utd and Norwich.
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| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:09 - Jan 29 with 960 views | KeithHaynes |
> Swansea city have securities with this deal. These are legal document and mean cash depending on a specific circumstance or time as understand it. <
I’m going to say we first reported that. |  |
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| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:11 - Jan 29 with 951 views | Whiterockin |
We have a vested interest in winning every match we play. |  |
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| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:14 - Jan 29 with 931 views | Sirjohnalot |
Not done contract law since my degree in 97 but I cannot envisage a clause which would say anything about ‘virtual certainty’. There would be specific clauses which would lead to the scenarios. For Swansea not to have been upfront, there must be some form of significant financial penalty if they don’t take him permanently. |  | | |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:15 - Jan 29 with 922 views | GixerJack |
Average of 1.5 points a game over a season would be pretty good |  | | |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:23 - Jan 29 with 875 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:11 - Jan 29 by Whiterockin |
We have a vested interest in winning every match we play. |
Imagine a scenario :-
Swansea are mid table.
Swansea still have to play at Turf Moor
The £4m deal depends on Burnely getting promoted.
Burnley are within a point of going out of the auto positions.
Did Mr Birch and his team assess this deal and the outstanding fixtures? . He did no research on BLM. All hypothetical of course. | |
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| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:30 - Jan 29 with 838 views | Whiterockin |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:23 - Jan 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Imagine a scenario :-
Swansea are mid table.
Swansea still have to play at Turf Moor
The £4m deal depends on Burnely getting promoted.
Burnley are within a point of going out of the auto positions.
Did Mr Birch and his team assess this deal and the outstanding fixtures? . He did no research on BLM. All hypothetical of course. |
You are asking me to imagine a scenario that is not relevant. We have played Burnley twice. | |
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| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 15:02 - Jan 29 with 762 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:30 - Jan 29 by Whiterockin |
You are asking me to imagine a scenario that is not relevant. We have played Burnley twice. |
You a seem unable to consider hypothetical scenarios. It is an ability. It is relevant but not exact.
The case of Obafemi may be repeated in several other cases. Silverstein and co would not necessarily consider the playing schedule in structuring the deal .
Do the EFL study these conditional deal such that there are no conflicts of interest later in the season?
I have highlight the cases where Premier teams pick winners. Gallagher left Charlton (condemning them to relegation) and he went to Swansea to help the get promoted (lost in play offs). This was Chelsea (Abrahamovic) picking winners. It is manipulation of the Championship by the Premier league clubs . | |
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| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 15:15 - Jan 29 with 736 views | Whiterockin |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 15:02 - Jan 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You a seem unable to consider hypothetical scenarios. It is an ability. It is relevant but not exact.
The case of Obafemi may be repeated in several other cases. Silverstein and co would not necessarily consider the playing schedule in structuring the deal .
Do the EFL study these conditional deal such that there are no conflicts of interest later in the season?
I have highlight the cases where Premier teams pick winners. Gallagher left Charlton (condemning them to relegation) and he went to Swansea to help the get promoted (lost in play offs). This was Chelsea (Abrahamovic) picking winners. It is manipulation of the Championship by the Premier league clubs . |
One could say the same if we didn't sell whitticker and loaned him to Ipswich for the rest of the season. | |
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| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 15:19 - Jan 29 with 719 views | grabsplatter |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:23 - Jan 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Imagine a scenario :-
Swansea are mid table.
Swansea still have to play at Turf Moor
The £4m deal depends on Burnely getting promoted.
Burnley are within a point of going out of the auto positions.
Did Mr Birch and his team assess this deal and the outstanding fixtures? . He did no research on BLM. All hypothetical of course. |
How is Mr Birch relevant? |  | | |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 15:20 - Jan 29 with 712 views | pencoedjack |
Hopefully he sends the Basseys down in the final game of the season. |  | | |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 15:26 - Jan 29 with 691 views | Fireboy2 |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 15:20 - Jan 29 by pencoedjack |
Hopefully he sends the Basseys down in the final game of the season. |
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| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 16:47 - Jan 29 with 608 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 15:02 - Jan 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You a seem unable to consider hypothetical scenarios. It is an ability. It is relevant but not exact.
The case of Obafemi may be repeated in several other cases. Silverstein and co would not necessarily consider the playing schedule in structuring the deal .
Do the EFL study these conditional deal such that there are no conflicts of interest later in the season?
I have highlight the cases where Premier teams pick winners. Gallagher left Charlton (condemning them to relegation) and he went to Swansea to help the get promoted (lost in play offs). This was Chelsea (Abrahamovic) picking winners. It is manipulation of the Championship by the Premier league clubs . |
it's not relevant because it cannot happen. What has Birch got to do with it?
Gallagher leaving Charlton didn't condemn to relegation, that's an entirely spurious suggestion. Had he stayed they could still have gone down as the rest of the squad also had an interest/say in it.
Abramovich wasnt manipulating our division, why would he be helping Swansea? |  | | |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 17:14 - Jan 29 with 558 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 16:47 - Jan 29 by SullutaCreturned |
it's not relevant because it cannot happen. What has Birch got to do with it?
Gallagher leaving Charlton didn't condemn to relegation, that's an entirely spurious suggestion. Had he stayed they could still have gone down as the rest of the squad also had an interest/say in it.
Abramovich wasnt manipulating our division, why would he be helping Swansea? |
The basics. Mr Birch is CEO of the EFL. Swansea city play in the EFL. Birch is the boss.
https://www.lfe.org.uk/news/trevor-birch-from-apprentice-to-efl-chief-executive/
I have put to you a hypothetical scenario you do not seem to understand. Corruption and manipulation rely on ignorance.
These complex deals require examination. For example Birch and his team would only approve it if Swansea had no fixture outstanding with Burnley. Did they actually do this check and study the deal?
On another matter I do no think PL teams can take a loan player performing well from one Championship club to load the dice with for another team fighting for promotion with perhaps a loan to buy deal on promotion. | |
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| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 19:36 - Jan 29 with 480 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Obafemi deal - an assessment. on 14:14 - Jan 29 by Sirjohnalot |
Not done contract law since my degree in 97 but I cannot envisage a clause which would say anything about ‘virtual certainty’. There would be specific clauses which would lead to the scenarios. For Swansea not to have been upfront, there must be some form of significant financial penalty if they don’t take him permanently. |
Come on mate, use your noggin.
Back of a fag packet analysis. They state they will only pay £3.5m for him, or whatever it was and any loan fees or bonuses would be rolled into that.
If they loan him for a fee of 750k up front to be deducted from the fee next season, plus have to pay a further £1.25m at the end of the season, plus a 500k promotion bonus.
It means come the end of the loan they may well be £2.5m in making it a ludicrous situation for them to send him back and leave such a small balance left to pay.
So virtual certainty would be because they would have essentially paid for him by then and extremely unlikely to back out of securing a multi million pound asset for a couple of hundred thousand. |  |
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