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FFP decision in - not good 14:01 - Oct 24 with 54133 viewsNorthernr

Arbitration found in favour of the league, basically protecting its role as a lawmaker that can set the rules for its competition as it sees fit. It leaves QPR liable to paying the fine in full, £40m-£60m

https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/qpr-financial-fair-play-dispute/

The club will be launching an appeal against this which will basically drag the whole thing on for another two years or so. They've a good chance in that, on the grounds of proptionality - you can fine HSBC £1.4bn but you can't fine the local Spar Shop the same amount for the same offence. Basically leaves the whole club, everybody that works there, the training ground development and us supporters in limbo for another two years. But yeh, at least Harry won us a promotion right?

Hopefully critics of Ferdinand, Hoos, Holloway, even Hasselbaink, and basically everybody that's been left to clear up the mess left by Hughes, Redknapp, Beard and most of all Fernandes previously now appreciate what a fcking tight spot they're all in.

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FFP decision in - not good on 14:04 - Oct 24 with 17312 viewsstumbleandfall

I cannot believe the FL will insist on a £60 million fine. That is insanity. Surely it will be suspended of some sort.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:05 - Oct 24 with 17297 viewsHunterhoop

Oh, bollocks.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:07 - Oct 24 with 17273 viewsNorthernr

FFP decision in - not good on 14:04 - Oct 24 by stumbleandfall

I cannot believe the FL will insist on a £60 million fine. That is insanity. Surely it will be suspended of some sort.


They're in an awkward position. They don't want to enforce the fine, they know it basically bankrupts a member club, but equally they don't want their rules to fall over, nor clubs punished already under those rules (Blackburn, Forest) to come after them. It's a mess from which only the lawyers are winning.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:09 - Oct 24 with 17245 viewsHunterhoop

Completely agree with your assessment, Clive. But there is also a big part of me thinking that the FA can f*ck right off. They'll be worse offenders than us this season! What will they fine them? And we came back down straight away, so didn't benefit to the full extent possible AND we've almost got ourselves solvent, which was the whole f*cking objective of bringing FFP into existence! We didn't need a £60m fine to do that!

Utter vvankers.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:09 - Oct 24 with 17237 viewsjohncharles

Drinks all round at Brentford no doubt.

Strong and stable my arse.

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FFP decision in - not good on 14:10 - Oct 24 with 17221 viewsNorthernr

FFP decision in - not good on 14:09 - Oct 24 by Hunterhoop

Completely agree with your assessment, Clive. But there is also a big part of me thinking that the FA can f*ck right off. They'll be worse offenders than us this season! What will they fine them? And we came back down straight away, so didn't benefit to the full extent possible AND we've almost got ourselves solvent, which was the whole f*cking objective of bringing FFP into existence! We didn't need a £60m fine to do that!

Utter vvankers.


Football League, not FA, but yeh.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:17 - Oct 24 with 17144 viewsSimonJames

Stitch up.

100% of people who drink water will die.

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FFP decision in - not good on 14:19 - Oct 24 with 17119 viewspaulparker

At least Tony is learning by his mistakes


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FFP decision in - not good on 14:20 - Oct 24 with 17098 viewsCroydonCaptJack

FFP decision in - not good on 14:19 - Oct 24 by paulparker

At least Tony is learning by his mistakes



Well to be fair to him he voted in its favour. But that isn't our argument is it.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:21 - Oct 24 with 17087 viewsNov77

so when are we getting our new training ground and stadium then?

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FFP decision in - not good on 14:21 - Oct 24 with 17086 viewsrobith

Well. That's that then.

Pass the cyanide capsule Nigel
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:26 - Oct 24 with 17016 viewssimmo

Another 2 years of more of the same. That's about it, for now.

ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead

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FFP decision in - not good on 14:33 - Oct 24 with 16940 viewstimcocking

FFP, doesnt half make my blood boil.

Can we pass the fine to Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp and their bloodsucking agents?
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:39 - Oct 24 with 16870 viewsswitchingcode

FFP decision in - not good on 14:09 - Oct 24 by johncharles

Drinks all round at Brentford no doubt.


Piss off,but your own
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:40 - Oct 24 with 16852 viewsCroydonCaptJack

FFP decision in - not good on 14:39 - Oct 24 by switchingcode

Piss off,but your own


Blimey, you don't stray far from this board. Don't you have any of your own?
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:44 - Oct 24 with 16811 viewsCroydonCaptJack

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/11096493/arbitration-panel-rules-ag
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:46 - Oct 24 with 16776 viewsFDC

Best case scenario, this dragging on for another couple of years results in some enforced financial sanity at the club, and the the fine ends up being greatly reduced away from the spotlight at a future date...?

You wonder how this will effect owndership of the club. Does it restrict things like purchasing new grounds etc? Presumably it does, and presumably that chucks cold water over any prospects for making any money out of the club?
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:47 - Oct 24 with 16768 viewsswitchingcode

FFP decision in - not good on 14:40 - Oct 24 by CroydonCaptJack

Blimey, you don't stray far from this board. Don't you have any of your own?


Just down the road 😃 yes we got a good fans forum that’s open to fans of other clubs just like yours.On a serious note can’t see this ever being paid if they give in and withdraw the fine there will be a string of clubs headed by Luton who would seek compensation that could fun into a fortune.Think it suits them to let this run and run.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:49 - Oct 24 with 16733 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Not sure who was on the adjudication panel, but put this before a competent and independent panel and I’m still of the view the fine will be apportioned to a sensible amount.

Now let’s get back to discussing our transfer targets for January? We need a proven goal scorer, possibly two, and a rock at the back......

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FFP decision in - not good on 14:50 - Oct 24 with 16725 viewsrsonist

FFP decision in - not good on 14:26 - Oct 24 by simmo

Another 2 years of more of the same. That's about it, for now.


Yeah. A couple more years to further draw the poison out of the argument while we continue to fall in line with FFP (which may as well be an embargo in the current market).

I'm not really sure how much this changes, to be honest - is it even a surprise? - neither side were going to have a total victory, the whole thing was going to be about finding the most palatable compromise to lose least face.

I suppose we should bear in mind the FL will be gearing up to clobber Sheffield Wednesday next season and need all the leverage they can get.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:55 - Oct 24 with 16691 viewsqprd

Debtors' prisons were done away with when lawmakers realized it was pretty stupid to put people in prison when they had high debts- putting them in jail made it impossible for them to earn money and actually pay back their debts

By the same token, how f***ing stupid is it to punish a club for financial mismanagement by handing them a massive massive fine? I can understand a points deduction or a transfer embargo. but if the intention of FFP is to make clubs financial sustainable, doesn't this rule just push the financially weak clubs off a cliff?

This is really, really bad. Even if QPR escapes a fine, the uncertainty will freeze any investment going forward.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:58 - Oct 24 with 16655 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

That’s a lot of shitty autobiographies they’ll need to shift.

I think we need to be honest with ourselves though, if this wasn’t QPR we’d all be saying ‘good’.
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FFP decision in - not good on 14:59 - Oct 24 with 16635 viewsDorse

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FFP decision in - not good on 15:00 - Oct 24 with 16629 viewsCroydonCaptJack

FFP decision in - not good on 14:47 - Oct 24 by switchingcode

Just down the road 😃 yes we got a good fans forum that’s open to fans of other clubs just like yours.On a serious note can’t see this ever being paid if they give in and withdraw the fine there will be a string of clubs headed by Luton who would seek compensation that could fun into a fortune.Think it suits them to let this run and run.


Yes, I think that is the problem. No-one wants to back down because of the knock-on effects. I feel we may be about to see just how deep our shareholders pockets are though.

There will also be a whole host of other clubs worried about this now as well.
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FFP decision in - not good on 15:10 - Oct 24 with 16544 viewsLblock

FFP decision in - not good on 14:49 - Oct 24 by PlanetHonneywood

Not sure who was on the adjudication panel, but put this before a competent and independent panel and I’m still of the view the fine will be apportioned to a sensible amount.

Now let’s get back to discussing our transfer targets for January? We need a proven goal scorer, possibly two, and a rock at the back......


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