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China - World war three in the offing? 12:59 - May 24 with 2235 viewsReslovenSwan1

A third front may be opening for the Russo Iranian Chinese axis. Best to find the key for the bunker and tidy it up a bit just in case.
For the information of the forum. Kindly etc.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-starts-military-drills-around-t

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China - World war three in the offing? on 14:14 - May 24 with 1200 viewscontroversial_jack

Don't worry about that. The real problem would be an escalation in the Ukraine, if NATO sends troops
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China - World war three in the offing? on 15:52 - May 24 with 1162 viewsSullutaCreturned

You're a bit behind, this situation has been discussed mnths back on the Ukraine thread. Several people said if things weren't done then we could be heading for another big war.

One poster, I forgot who did (I think) say events had shades of the 1930's about them. Though they may have referenced the run up to WW1
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China - World war three in the offing? on 17:00 - May 24 with 1129 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

God I hope so. Put us all out of our misery.

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China - World war three in the offing? on 17:34 - May 24 with 1081 viewstrampie

China - World war three in the offing? on 15:52 - May 24 by SullutaCreturned

You're a bit behind, this situation has been discussed mnths back on the Ukraine thread. Several people said if things weren't done then we could be heading for another big war.

One poster, I forgot who did (I think) say events had shades of the 1930's about them. Though they may have referenced the run up to WW1


It was probably me - "I wasn't around in the 1930s but a lot has been written about that time period and this feels like it now, poverty, populist, nationalist governments in Europe, USA and across large parts of the World, imperialist powers oppressing people.
Dangerous times."

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China - World war three in the offing? on 17:58 - May 24 with 1081 viewsReslovenSwan1

There are signs that Russia has had enough or at least coming to the conclusion it cannot achieve its aims other then getting away with a bit of land theft.

In 2014 -2021 the Black sea fleet chest out was in Sevastopol knowing the Ukraine could not shift them. Moscova and other glistening ships filled the harbour/

Now a third of them have been sunk the Navy offices destroyed along with their staff and RF ships are s sitting nervously in Russia hopefully (for them) out of range.

They took 10% of Ukraine without much of a fight. The other 10% has come at a huge cost.

One wonders about he wisdom of the UK Government investing big time in the Royal Navy especially those massive aircraft carriers.

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China - World war three in the offing? on 18:05 - May 24 with 1076 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

China - World war three in the offing? on 17:58 - May 24 by ReslovenSwan1

There are signs that Russia has had enough or at least coming to the conclusion it cannot achieve its aims other then getting away with a bit of land theft.

In 2014 -2021 the Black sea fleet chest out was in Sevastopol knowing the Ukraine could not shift them. Moscova and other glistening ships filled the harbour/

Now a third of them have been sunk the Navy offices destroyed along with their staff and RF ships are s sitting nervously in Russia hopefully (for them) out of range.

They took 10% of Ukraine without much of a fight. The other 10% has come at a huge cost.

One wonders about he wisdom of the UK Government investing big time in the Royal Navy especially those massive aircraft carriers.


They’ve removed the border markers between themselves and Estonia today for reasons only known to themselves.

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China - World war three in the offing? on 19:30 - May 24 with 1029 viewsSullutaCreturned

China - World war three in the offing? on 18:05 - May 24 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

They’ve removed the border markers between themselves and Estonia today for reasons only known to themselves.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6ppl5v1lwzo

Political game playing which, in current circumstances, is provocative and dangerous.
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China - World war three in the offing? on 19:43 - May 24 with 999 viewscontroversial_jack

China - World war three in the offing? on 17:58 - May 24 by ReslovenSwan1

There are signs that Russia has had enough or at least coming to the conclusion it cannot achieve its aims other then getting away with a bit of land theft.

In 2014 -2021 the Black sea fleet chest out was in Sevastopol knowing the Ukraine could not shift them. Moscova and other glistening ships filled the harbour/

Now a third of them have been sunk the Navy offices destroyed along with their staff and RF ships are s sitting nervously in Russia hopefully (for them) out of range.

They took 10% of Ukraine without much of a fight. The other 10% has come at a huge cost.

One wonders about he wisdom of the UK Government investing big time in the Royal Navy especially those massive aircraft carriers.


They have achieved their aims, the Ukranian military is on it's arse. It was never about a land grab, it was about destroying the Ukranian military. It has done this, despite units of the Ukranian military still holding out. NATO, has had a rude awakening too. However, if the Ukraine and it's proxy masters keep resisting, they may have to move onto Odessa and maybe even Kyev to remove Zelensky and his govt. They have nothing left to resist this either
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China - World war three in the offing? on 19:47 - May 24 with 998 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

China - World war three in the offing? on 19:43 - May 24 by controversial_jack

They have achieved their aims, the Ukranian military is on it's arse. It was never about a land grab, it was about destroying the Ukranian military. It has done this, despite units of the Ukranian military still holding out. NATO, has had a rude awakening too. However, if the Ukraine and it's proxy masters keep resisting, they may have to move onto Odessa and maybe even Kyev to remove Zelensky and his govt. They have nothing left to resist this either


It’s been a roaring success. 2 years, thousands dead, Putin embarrassingly forced to go begging cap in hand to Kim Jong Dong and now he can move his drinks cabinet 200 yards closer to Kiev.

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China - World war three in the offing? on 20:04 - May 24 with 978 viewscontroversial_jack

China - World war three in the offing? on 19:47 - May 24 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

It’s been a roaring success. 2 years, thousands dead, Putin embarrassingly forced to go begging cap in hand to Kim Jong Dong and now he can move his drinks cabinet 200 yards closer to Kiev.


Begging for what? Their arms production is booming, their factories are outproducing even the US by many times. They have huge stockpiles of missiles and munitions. Don't know why they have to ask Kim
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China - World war three in the offing? on 20:26 - May 24 with 958 viewsBoundy

China - World war three in the offing? on 20:04 - May 24 by controversial_jack

Begging for what? Their arms production is booming, their factories are outproducing even the US by many times. They have huge stockpiles of missiles and munitions. Don't know why they have to ask Kim


You don't know why , jeez what's would coming to if Skewens version of James Holland doesn't

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China - World war three in the offing? on 20:30 - May 24 with 958 viewsBoundy

China - World war three in the offing? on 20:04 - May 24 by controversial_jack

Begging for what? Their arms production is booming, their factories are outproducing even the US by many times. They have huge stockpiles of missiles and munitions. Don't know why they have to ask Kim


You don't know why , jeez what's would coming to if Skewens version of James Holland doesn't

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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China - World war three in the offing? on 20:50 - May 24 with 946 viewsDr_Winston

The war is going so well for Russia that Putin is suggesting calling it quits with the "gains" he already has.

https://news.sky.com/story/vladimir-putin-ready-to-freeze-war-in-ukraine-with-ce

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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China - World war three in the offing? on 22:30 - May 24 with 901 viewscontroversial_jack

China - World war three in the offing? on 20:30 - May 24 by Boundy

You don't know why , jeez what's would coming to if Skewens version of James Holland doesn't


i Know the answer, it was for the poster to answer
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China - World war three in the offing? on 22:32 - May 24 with 897 viewscontroversial_jack

China - World war three in the offing? on 20:50 - May 24 by Dr_Winston

The war is going so well for Russia that Putin is suggesting calling it quits with the "gains" he already has.

https://news.sky.com/story/vladimir-putin-ready-to-freeze-war-in-ukraine-with-ce


Putin has wanted to end it a long time ago, it's NATO, that wanted to keep it going. Boris Johnson telling Zelensky to keep going, we have your back.That didn't work out so well did it?
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China - World war three in the offing? on 22:33 - May 24 with 897 viewsBoundy

China - World war three in the offing? on 22:30 - May 24 by controversial_jack

i Know the answer, it was for the poster to answer


Of course you do

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China - World war three in the offing? on 06:04 - May 25 with 851 viewsPawelAbbott

China - World war three in the offing? on 17:58 - May 24 by ReslovenSwan1

There are signs that Russia has had enough or at least coming to the conclusion it cannot achieve its aims other then getting away with a bit of land theft.

In 2014 -2021 the Black sea fleet chest out was in Sevastopol knowing the Ukraine could not shift them. Moscova and other glistening ships filled the harbour/

Now a third of them have been sunk the Navy offices destroyed along with their staff and RF ships are s sitting nervously in Russia hopefully (for them) out of range.

They took 10% of Ukraine without much of a fight. The other 10% has come at a huge cost.

One wonders about he wisdom of the UK Government investing big time in the Royal Navy especially those massive aircraft carriers.


The Ukraine war has shown that modern warfare has completely changed. £50m tanks are being destroyed by £100 drones. The Ukrainians have taken the US made Abram tanks off the battlefield because they were losing them to drone strikes. Huge naval vessels are destroyed by sea drones.
The UK are sending them a laser weapon that can shoot down multimillion pound missiles for the cost of 50p.
The Ukranians are taking out the Russian air defences by attacking in a swarm with drones and missiles. The defence systems can't take everything out, so some get through and hit the target.
Where does that leave the defence industry?
Russia has been put on a war footing to mass produce weapons. The UK has no way of manufacturing anywhere near enough of anything if we had to do the same. We are sitting ducks. We have relied on a relatively small number of these big old style weapons and have given away our manufacturing capabilities.
Just as we may desperately need steel works, we pay foreign nations to shut them down
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China - World war three in the offing? on 07:43 - May 25 with 815 viewsAnotherJohn

Interesting take here from a Chinese mercenary about how well or otherwise Russia is doing on the battlefield.



Also a lot on Telegram about damaging hits in last day or two by ATACMS on Russian airfields and air defence systems.
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China - World war three in the offing? on 09:24 - May 25 with 773 viewscontroversial_jack

China - World war three in the offing? on 06:04 - May 25 by PawelAbbott

The Ukraine war has shown that modern warfare has completely changed. £50m tanks are being destroyed by £100 drones. The Ukrainians have taken the US made Abram tanks off the battlefield because they were losing them to drone strikes. Huge naval vessels are destroyed by sea drones.
The UK are sending them a laser weapon that can shoot down multimillion pound missiles for the cost of 50p.
The Ukranians are taking out the Russian air defences by attacking in a swarm with drones and missiles. The defence systems can't take everything out, so some get through and hit the target.
Where does that leave the defence industry?
Russia has been put on a war footing to mass produce weapons. The UK has no way of manufacturing anywhere near enough of anything if we had to do the same. We are sitting ducks. We have relied on a relatively small number of these big old style weapons and have given away our manufacturing capabilities.
Just as we may desperately need steel works, we pay foreign nations to shut them down


Indeed, it's changed now, As well as Bradleys, the German leopard tanks have also been withdrawn because they are vulnerable. US HIMARS and ATACS are easily jammed by the Russians

Drones have rendered any mass movements of troops and equipment impossible.It's slowed down warfare so that only smaller troop movements are possible. Drones and cheap missiles can confuse air defences, it's what Israel recently found out when several Iran missiles got through it's iron dome and found their targets on the air fields

Russia is producing loads af equipment and ammo.It's out producing all the NATO. We can send all the equipment we like to the Ukraine, but they don't have the manpower, training or back up to operate them countries put together.Russia knows how to fight a modern war, NATO doesn't

The Uk and most of western Europe has inadequate air defences and are very vulnerable. The same goes for any US or Uk bases in the region.Like it or not, Russia is the strongest military in the world right now as they are geared up to war, NATO is not.
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China - World war three in the offing? on 10:13 - May 25 with 765 viewsAnotherJohn

China - World war three in the offing? on 09:24 - May 25 by controversial_jack

Indeed, it's changed now, As well as Bradleys, the German leopard tanks have also been withdrawn because they are vulnerable. US HIMARS and ATACS are easily jammed by the Russians

Drones have rendered any mass movements of troops and equipment impossible.It's slowed down warfare so that only smaller troop movements are possible. Drones and cheap missiles can confuse air defences, it's what Israel recently found out when several Iran missiles got through it's iron dome and found their targets on the air fields

Russia is producing loads af equipment and ammo.It's out producing all the NATO. We can send all the equipment we like to the Ukraine, but they don't have the manpower, training or back up to operate them countries put together.Russia knows how to fight a modern war, NATO doesn't

The Uk and most of western Europe has inadequate air defences and are very vulnerable. The same goes for any US or Uk bases in the region.Like it or not, Russia is the strongest military in the world right now as they are geared up to war, NATO is not.


What a load of old cobblers. There have been recent problems with the jamming of HIMARS, but over the last two days ATACMS have been very effective with hits on air defences and a command centre.
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China - World war three in the offing? on 10:55 - May 25 with 752 viewscontroversial_jack

China - World war three in the offing? on 10:13 - May 25 by AnotherJohn

What a load of old cobblers. There have been recent problems with the jamming of HIMARS, but over the last two days ATACMS have been very effective with hits on air defences and a command centre.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/24/himars-ineffective-as-russia-j

HIMARS have been jammed easily, ATACMS, and storm shadow not so easily jammed, but still possible
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China - World war three in the offing? on 19:23 - May 25 with 669 viewsAnotherJohn

China - World war three in the offing? on 10:55 - May 25 by controversial_jack

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/24/himars-ineffective-as-russia-j

HIMARS have been jammed easily, ATACMS, and storm shadow not so easily jammed, but still possible


Just as I said. HIMARS has been partially jammed but is still registering some hits, ATACMS continues to resist jamming and is doing very significant damage in Crimea and the other occupied areas. Your earlier statement that both had been jammed is untrue - as It a lot of what you post.
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China - World war three in the offing? on 20:28 - May 25 with 646 viewscontroversial_jack

China - World war three in the offing? on 19:23 - May 25 by AnotherJohn

Just as I said. HIMARS has been partially jammed but is still registering some hits, ATACMS continues to resist jamming and is doing very significant damage in Crimea and the other occupied areas. Your earlier statement that both had been jammed is untrue - as It a lot of what you post.


Himars, the wonder weapon which was going to change everything has been neutralised. ATACMS and storm shadow has proved more difficult to jam, Russia is working on a modified air defence missile to intercept these
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China - World war three in the offing? on 13:09 - May 26 with 530 viewsSullutaCreturned

Some things change, others don't. Russia has attacked a shop and killed more civilians who just out shopping,

https://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&ei=UTF-8&p=russ
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China - World war three in the offing? on 13:16 - May 26 with 528 viewsonehunglow

China - World war three in the offing? on 13:09 - May 26 by SullutaCreturned

Some things change, others don't. Russia has attacked a shop and killed more civilians who just out shopping,

https://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&ei=UTF-8&p=russ


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