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General Election Thread
at 13:45 28 May 2024

Can we steer the topic away from the B word guys and stick to the General Election?
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Confession time - Play off winners
at 20:47 27 May 2024

Yes and No. Derry was still at the club in the 2013 close season but didn't play at all and became Notts County manager a few months into the season. Mackie was at Nottingham Forest that 2013/14 play off season (joined the fakes the season after when we were embarrassing ourselves in the Prem and joined us again the following season).
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General Election Thread
at 15:08 27 May 2024

Plus his and Osborne's political choice of austerity which the IMF called unnecessarily harsh and deep and counterproductive in the long run which most of our public services are still feeling the effect of today.

The economy just before the 2010 election was starting to recover and austerity killed that recovery stone dead.
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General Election Thread
at 08:14 27 May 2024

"Plus they could sell themselves as the party of law and order against the man who failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile"

Bringing up that lazy trope again. The DPP doesn't have the final decision on every person that the CPS does or doesn't prosecute, that is left to individual reviewing lawyers.
https://fullfact.org/online/keir-starmer-prosecute-jimmy-savile/
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General Election Thread
at 09:09 26 May 2024

Definitely not guaranteed to get elected.

I grew up in Camberley and when I still lived there (last in 2012), he was my MP. The local council (Surrey Heath) had been solidly Tory and had always been the ruling party, often with very large majorities since the local government reorganisation in 1974. At one of the council elections in 1983 every one of the seats was Tory.

Even up to the 2015 local election they had 36 of the 40 seats. This changed in 2019 as the Lib Dems had been slowly gathering support and the Tories only just had a majority (18 out of 35). Come the 2023 local election I saw something I never thought would happen; not only were the Tories not the ruling party, they were absolutely obliterated, only 6 councillors elected with just a 17% share of the vote. Lib Dems got control with 24 out of 35.

I suppose in a roundabout way I'm saying that Gove saw the writing on the wall from last year and knew he would be on very thin ice in this election.
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These Manager Appointments are Mad
at 11:20 24 May 2024

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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old
at 12:15 23 May 2024

Joy Morrissey was also one of 268 Tory MPs who voted in favour of water companies being allowed to carry on dumping raw sewage into rivers and the sea.

https://www.carvemag.com/2023/01/every-uk-mp-who-just-voted-to-allow-water-compa

MPs voting records need to be scrutinised more closely than they are.
Check yours here:
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mps/
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End of Term Report 23/24 – Goalkeepers
at 10:48 20 May 2024

Yes Terry but as I've stated elsewhere, Woods when he came to us was a young kid, younger than Walsh is now and his only first team appearances for Forest had been the League Cup games he played for the cup tied Shilton in 77/78, although some very big games there including the final and the final replay.

When he came to us in '79 he was basically learning on the job. He had though a European Cup winners medal in his pocket when he came to us as his last game for Forest was the 1979 European Cup Final where he was on the bench.

I never rated him when he played for England but you don't have the long club career he went on to have if you can't play a bit.
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Departures in the development squad
at 09:33 15 May 2024

Good point there. They haven't got a PL club within a hundred miles of them. In fact they haven't really got that many football league teams in their immediate vicinity either and most of those are L1/L2 teams.
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Departures in the development squad
at 12:27 14 May 2024

Dieng at Doncaster was after Chair at Stevenage I think.
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Old Trafford
at 13:02 13 May 2024

Has the training ground been left to rot like the stadium as well? I thought it was a state of the art facility when they moved there early 2000s?
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Andre the friendly ghost departs
at 20:54 12 May 2024

Rowett certainly had sussed him out ultra quickly. One game was enough for him, well not even one game, 36 minutes of the second half where he'd come on as sub to know he'd seen enough. That was on the 1st April (some irony there).
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Players we should have kept
at 14:45 10 May 2024

The thing with Woods though is that he was still just a kid (not quite 20) when he came to us and an absolute baby in goalkeeping terms. Brian Clough trusted him enough at 18 to keep goal for the cup tied Shilton in their run to winning the League Cup in 77/78. That would be unthinkable doing that nowadays, trusting your 18 year old youth team/reserves goalkeeper in a Wembley cup final. He was also on the bench in the 1979 European Cup final the following season.

Cloughie knew he was never going to replace Shilton at Forest in the short term which is why he probably sold him to us.
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Players we should have kept
at 14:30 10 May 2024

Stewart Houston!
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Players we should have kept
at 13:05 10 May 2024

I always thought Terry Venables bombed him out too early after he took over. Seemed over keen I thought to get John Burridge in from Palace ASAP.
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Players we should have kept
at 13:02 10 May 2024

Yes!

Although at the time we got good money from West Ham for him (£800k I think IIRC), I always thought it was a sideways move for him as in the season just gone we'd finished above them in the second division.
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Transfer rumours 2024
at 10:24 10 May 2024

Does anyone know if there's a sell on clause with North Battersea for Clarke-Salter?
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Kits 20024/25
at 09:46 10 May 2024

Homage to the kit they wore in the Division 2 play off final in 1999, Paul Dickov, Andy Morrison et al...

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Work to do
at 10:32 7 May 2024

I actually prefer their cover to the Isleys' original.
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Slow, Stalled, Penalty Run Ups.
at 16:52 6 May 2024

Think it was earlier than that mate. His missed penalty in the 1988 Cup Final he did a stutter in his run up and IIRC he'd been taking them like that all that season and hadn't missed until that point.
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