| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders 06:12 - May 20 with 23827 views | davman |
Jeez, the football world is f-d up again. There are laws in place for encroaching on the field of play and what happened this week explains exactly why.
Sharp had no time to react to the high vis fat cannonball attacker, who has rightly been convicted and no doubt Viera and McBurnie will get some form of punishment. But Viera and McB's "victims" will get off Scott free even though they are law breakers by just being there. Getting on the pitch is one thing, but if you act like a massive weapon when you are on there, you should have every legal order thrown at you.
Loads of people think it's just an innocent laugh pitch invading, but I'd imagine that, with the percentage of idiots that live amongst us, it is probably really frightening for both sets of players and staff. After all, no pitch invasion, no provocation and no punishment for Viera and Mr. Completescotsname.
I hope they chuck the book at Forest and Everton and threaten them with a behind closed doors game for letting that happen. Disgraceful. | |
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 13:27 - May 20 with 2623 views | switchingcode |
Yes we all do and I’m afraid I fear there will be a lot more examples of this around London this coming Sunday with Leeds Everton Watford and Man U fans all in town. | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 13:34 - May 20 with 2589 views | themodfather |
fans on the pitch is not new but there is a trend to more fireworks/flares in grounds and players and staff being attacked on the pitch is not good.
everton last night, port vale and forest have all had issues.
palace manager seen on cctv punching and kicking a fan on the pitch, but what led to it? and the fan shouldn't be there anyway.
that could have gone wrong as loads surrounded him. | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 14:20 - May 20 with 2458 views | hamptonhillhoop |
Except for Meatloaf | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 14:22 - May 20 with 2452 views | PinnerPaul |
The last paragraph is exactly what Mr Murray said on his EFL show. | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 14:55 - May 20 with 2379 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
One massive difference between the US and England is lawsuits .The absolute wan*er who basically taunted Tyson ( a loose cannon sadly ) will wind up with a huge financial settlement and Tyson basically admitted that . " this will cost me a million dollars ".
So instead of shocking people it only serves to embolden then to act the pri*k and get rich .
I watched the clip of Sharp getting hit and yes he could have broken his neck.
Viera got lucky IMO he was surrounded and could easily have been knocked to the ground and injured once the red mist mob mentality took over. Not excusing his slap and kick which started the whole mess.
I do not agree with wire fences we need to move forward not backwards | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 15:03 - May 20 with 2353 views | Northernr |
The other issue if you go all hot, heavy and sweeping is it restricts football fans' right to protest. I'm sure clubs would love that but if you end up with the Allams, the Oystons etc as your owners one of the few, effective methods of protest available to you is to go and disrupt the game and sit on the pitch. I don't remember much condemnation for the poor Oldham fans going on the pitch against Salford the other week, and rightly so IMO. But if you start clamping down then it's hard for a law to distinguish between good pitch invasion and bad pitch invasion. | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 15:11 - May 20 with 2324 views | BostonR |
This is what we have become - brilliant post. This country is going to go full-on public disorder very shortly and it will be very nasty. The fuse is well and truly lit and one small incident will ignite it! The Police will not be able to cope once it kicks-off. | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 15:41 - May 20 with 2247 views | Hayesender |
Something really needs to be done about all these fans running on to the pitch.
It's only a matter of time before someone does it at Loftus Road and gets man of the match | |
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 16:12 - May 20 with 2200 views | Myke |
The pitch invasions themselves are not the issue (although I know you hate them Clive), but the violence that is now associated with them. Over here every single Championship match (both hurling and football) is followed by a 'pitch invasion' At every game there are anything between 8 and 40 thousand people there depending on the size of the venue and the importance of the match. And they are 'invaded' after every game. Both sets of players wait patiently for the invasion, as kids come running over for selfies and autographs. The players can spend up to 30 minutes on the pitch mingling with the supporters -and I mean supporters not fan(atics).
After one game a couple of weeks ago, a hard fought battle between Limerick and Waterford which was a million times more physical than any soccer match, and the players dripping with sweat by full time, I saw one top player give a kid of about 8 a quick lesson on how to make a hand pass. Nobody felt threatened, the atmosphere was relaxed, almost carnival like, as players and supporters eventually drifted off the pitch together. So it is not pitch invasions per se, but the violence associated with them that is the issue. [Post edited 20 May 2022 16:13]
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 16:44 - May 20 with 2123 views | Rangersw12 |
Players/managers/staff also have a job to not wind up opposition fans.
Loads of times you see them running to opposition fans giving it large etc
Who remembers that cnt at Vale cupping his ears to us nearly causing a riot.
Football is passionate and its not comparable to any other sport, it's tribal and generally fans of other clubs don't get on, so you don't need some gobshite players trying to wind people up as they clearly don't like it when some twts confront them [Post edited 20 May 2022 16:45]
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 16:49 - May 20 with 2115 views | LongRanger |
Agree with Clive that this is ultimately a society issue, but until that is sorted you can't have players being attacked by fans on the pitch, so there has to be a huge punishment so that fans start to police themselves, its harsh on the majority and some may try and do it to other teams to try and get them punished, but it has to be dealt with harshly.
Everyone has a right to protest, pitch invasions used to be fine, but that was a mob at Port Vale not one idiot, so it has to stop before it gets any worse.
If Clives last point about it being closely tied to economy is right, if left it will get worse before it gets better and will take a few years to bounce back...bit like Rangers | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 16:51 - May 20 with 2110 views | Mick_S |
Belter. Well done, sir. | |
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 17:13 - May 20 with 2033 views | Hayesender |
The only time I've ever felt compelled to throwing something at a match.
I had a bottle of sprite in my hand when he did that, and before I knew it I'd launched it at him.
Not proud, but it's easily done in the heat of the moment | |
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 17:46 - May 20 with 1967 views | distortR |
life is but a stage, and all that.
Performative displays of behaviour are at ridiculous levels across the board.
I suppose it's another way social media is affecting our reducing intelligence.
Edit - just seen Clive and others discuss this without me. I'm going to take a selfie of me looking sad and post it etc etc [Post edited 20 May 2022 17:55]
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 18:37 - May 20 with 1860 views | Boston |
Lucky man, one of your fellow posters on this board received a three year ban from Loftus Rd for that, and his can was empty. | |
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 18:38 - May 20 with 1859 views | Boston |
Feel free to er.. pitch in whenever you want to. | |
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 18:59 - May 20 with 1830 views | davman |
Viera did NOT start anything with a slap and a kick. The idiot with the phone in his face yelling abuse started it by a) being on the pitch in the first place and B) by getting in Vera's space.
I get all the "we should let people express themselves" and "why should we all be punished and go back to the fences in the 70s", but if people continue to behave like that, what do we realistically expect? I also get that going on the pitch is one thing, acting like a tool is another as is committing assault, but all of that requires forensic detective work to identify these utter tools just to punish them. Work that WE have to pay the police for which they will do instead of finding the people that stole my neighbour's bikes last month.
It is a crime (apparently) so dish the fcking punishments out to everyone who breaks it.
No excuses in a civilised society. | |
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 19:01 - May 20 with 1822 views | distortR |
life's a pitch and then you die..........or something like that.
Anyway, I'm still sulking. | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 19:52 - May 20 with 1741 views | The_Beast1976 |
"Post lockdown I think there's a proper "fck you" selfish attitude to the place. We collectively as a country did as we were told, sat in our homes for two years, and it's now turning out that this was possibly OTT, possibly unnecessary, possibly could have been done differently....."
IMO it certainly was OTT, unnecessary, could have been done differently, etc (and those of us who even thought so at the time were basically labelled as maniacs who didn't give a shite about anyone but ourselves (when nothing could have been further from the truth)). Our Russian a friend on here also said it would bring about global financial collapse - given the way things are heading.now, will he be proven correct?
Anyway, I guess you can't blame people for reacting in a somewhat unpleasant manner when the realisation dawns on them that they've been, at best, 'misled' and that, consequently, it is going to have a significantly detrimental effect on their standard of living.
Sadly, as you suggest, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better, unless really stringent/draconian measures are taken (albeit that could actually have the opposite effect I guess and make things even worse). [Post edited 20 May 2022 20:01]
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 20:53 - May 20 with 1640 views | Hayesender |
I think the police were more concerned about the lone Ranger in the red top who took it upon himself to run across the pitch during the game and launched himself into the unsuspecting port Vale fans.
Always wondered what happened to him 🤔 | |
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| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 20:55 - May 20 with 1640 views | Myke |
Hindsight is wonderful - people were dying in their thousands and nobody knew anything about the virus | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 23:40 - May 20 with 1506 views | LythamR |
i love this hindsight and people saying there shouldnt have been lockdowns etc but look how many died and then join the dots to how many would have died without the lockdowns
that said there is no denying that we are in serious financial trouble, we were heading that way anywat before Covid and Ukraine, unless you happen to be an armaments manufacturer or one of their shareholders in which case life is peachy
I just hope its not a really hot summer because it will only take one incident to light the fuse during a heatwave, good job the world cup is in November this year is my thinking | | | |
| Viera, McBurnie, Sharp Pitch Invaders on 23:59 - May 20 with 1496 views | lightwaterhoop |
Myke its not hindsight a lot of people were saying at the time that the lockdowns were way over the top including the poster you were responding to. | | | |
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