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Scfc2 07:33 - Aug 29 with 6715 viewsawayjack

Had a quick look and a couple of interesting threads.

- Posters are pushing for a couple that de-rail almost every thread in the defence of the Board / Yanks to be banned. Sound familiar? Seems they don’t have an ignore button yet!
- They’ve drafted a Supporters letter to the Board/Yanks that summarises fans concerns. Not a bad idea albeit suspect it’ll go in the bin on receipt, but they are trying to use letter to get more media coverage of what’s going on. May help Trust / pressure on Yanks.

A few decent posters but site is still pretty poor to navigate.
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Scfc2 on 08:42 - Aug 29 with 6505 viewsswan65split

What site is this?
Usual tack then to quash free speech , some sites have posters who demean and ridicule the opposition they hope the lurking public are gaslighted by their actions.
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Scfc2 on 10:02 - Aug 29 with 6395 viewsWarwickHunt

They need to drag that forum into the 80s so it can compete with this one.
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Scfc2 on 12:23 - Aug 29 with 6136 viewsMo_Wives

I'm hearing the board are receiving the supporters letter as we speak...


Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Scfc2 on 13:23 - Aug 29 with 5996 viewsawayjack

Scfc2 on 12:23 - Aug 29 by Mo_Wives

I'm hearing the board are receiving the supporters letter as we speak...



Funny and probably true.
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Scfc2 on 13:59 - Aug 29 with 5920 viewsLandore_Jack

https://www.scfc2.co.uk/forums/discussion/2351/potential-supporters-letter

#backtojack

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Scfc2 on 14:05 - Aug 29 with 5900 viewsDarran

You want to get on the ‘other site’ there’s a fella producing bumper stickers in protest at the regime.

That’ll show em.

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Scfc2 on 14:07 - Aug 29 with 5894 viewsLandore_Jack

Taken from SCFC2:

Dear Board & Owners,

There are a significant number of lifelong Swansea City supporters, me included, who have supported the club through the lows and highs of the last 50 years. We have seen the struggles and disappointments, as well the highs of recent years.

We have always been close to the Club and fresh calls for unity leave us confused. We are united with our Manager and Playing squad, but it seems that over recent years the Board & Owners have moved away from us. That is not something we, as fans, can resolve, it requires you as the Board & Owners to return to the community way of operation that formed the bedrock of our success.

We, the fans, have had to endure, in recent years. not just disappointment and relegation, but what appears to be the systematic dismantling our Club’s previous ethos and modus operandi, whether by accident or design. The Club is by far worse off as a result, and it isn’t something supporters approve of and will not ecourage the unity we need as a Club, so we can prosper in future.

Despite, the loss of the ‘The Swansea Way’, the change from Football-led identification and recruitment of hungry and talented players (both young and experienced) to extravagant and wasteful transfers, poor decision making regarding managerial appointments, and eventual relegation, we continue to support our Club.

The Board & Owners have clearly presided over a series of disastrous outcomes but the supporters continue to be loyal, as is clearly demonstrated by the large crowds still attending the Liberty Stadium for home games.

However, with all the poor stewardship over recent years, the current debacle regarding the transfer and loan windows, resulting in a squad, that is short on absolute personnel, personnel in key roles, and coverage for players suffering from injury, loss of form and yellow cards, is nothing short of indefensible.

At this point, it is worth saying, none of these comments reflect on our new manager Graham Potter, his coaching and recruitment teams and the players. We were all excited by the new appointment of Graham and the return to football and scouting led recruitment, and indeed the encouragement of academy graduates into the first team. Four of whom have now appeared regularly in the first team. The addition of the new players during the transfer window also are all exciting prospects who we have welcomed and already feel are ‘Jacks’ who will we hope start the renaissance of our Club.

Unfortunately, the renaissance will not occur until we have a squad with enough players in key roles and coverage for players who are injured. Already the decisions not to recruit key roles and essential replacements has put at risk what could have been an extraordinary start to the season. The season could easily become one where injuries could see the hard work the players have put into the initial matches at risk.

We understand that with the reduction in income following relegation, savings are required, and we support this, as we want to get back to the previous way of doing business. Whilst surgery is required, amputation is not. You cannot expect to reduce the size of the playing squad and not replace in key areas. The Academy is supporting with the graduates, but even allowing for the 6 or 7 players now seriously involved in the first team squad, which is excellent by any standards, it is not enough. The fact that within the first 5 matches, players are playing through injury, however slight, is an extraordinary position to find ourselves in, and a direct result of the Board & Owners approach during the transfer and loan window.

You must put this right. You have a limited opportunity now to resolve the squad issues before the transfer/free agent window closes. If you have any intention to create unity, this is your opportunity. If you do not take this opportunity you will certainly lose my support and I believe you will lose the support of a considerable number of my fellow supporters.

You need to talk to us without the simplistic rhetoric and with honesty and openness.

You claimed, as Owners, that you will take us to the next level. This phase has now become a standing joke amongst supporters, as we can perceive nothing you have done to support this clear statement.

We have never asked for additional money but surely you see the best outcome for Owners, Supporters and the Club, is to act now and support our Manager and Players with a few additions, as the opinion of most of the supporters is, if you do that Graham Potter and his team are talented enough to get us into promotion contention. If you don’t, then you will be telling us your statement of ‘…taking us to the next level’ was meaningless.

For us — the supporters — it is heart-breaking to see what is unfolding in front of us and it feels as though either you don’t care or aren’t competent to stop us slipping into footballing obscurity. Please prove us wrong.

#backtojack

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Scfc2 on 15:41 - Aug 29 with 5750 viewsJoshTheJack

Scfc2 on 14:07 - Aug 29 by Landore_Jack

Taken from SCFC2:

Dear Board & Owners,

There are a significant number of lifelong Swansea City supporters, me included, who have supported the club through the lows and highs of the last 50 years. We have seen the struggles and disappointments, as well the highs of recent years.

We have always been close to the Club and fresh calls for unity leave us confused. We are united with our Manager and Playing squad, but it seems that over recent years the Board & Owners have moved away from us. That is not something we, as fans, can resolve, it requires you as the Board & Owners to return to the community way of operation that formed the bedrock of our success.

We, the fans, have had to endure, in recent years. not just disappointment and relegation, but what appears to be the systematic dismantling our Club’s previous ethos and modus operandi, whether by accident or design. The Club is by far worse off as a result, and it isn’t something supporters approve of and will not ecourage the unity we need as a Club, so we can prosper in future.

Despite, the loss of the ‘The Swansea Way’, the change from Football-led identification and recruitment of hungry and talented players (both young and experienced) to extravagant and wasteful transfers, poor decision making regarding managerial appointments, and eventual relegation, we continue to support our Club.

The Board & Owners have clearly presided over a series of disastrous outcomes but the supporters continue to be loyal, as is clearly demonstrated by the large crowds still attending the Liberty Stadium for home games.

However, with all the poor stewardship over recent years, the current debacle regarding the transfer and loan windows, resulting in a squad, that is short on absolute personnel, personnel in key roles, and coverage for players suffering from injury, loss of form and yellow cards, is nothing short of indefensible.

At this point, it is worth saying, none of these comments reflect on our new manager Graham Potter, his coaching and recruitment teams and the players. We were all excited by the new appointment of Graham and the return to football and scouting led recruitment, and indeed the encouragement of academy graduates into the first team. Four of whom have now appeared regularly in the first team. The addition of the new players during the transfer window also are all exciting prospects who we have welcomed and already feel are ‘Jacks’ who will we hope start the renaissance of our Club.

Unfortunately, the renaissance will not occur until we have a squad with enough players in key roles and coverage for players who are injured. Already the decisions not to recruit key roles and essential replacements has put at risk what could have been an extraordinary start to the season. The season could easily become one where injuries could see the hard work the players have put into the initial matches at risk.

We understand that with the reduction in income following relegation, savings are required, and we support this, as we want to get back to the previous way of doing business. Whilst surgery is required, amputation is not. You cannot expect to reduce the size of the playing squad and not replace in key areas. The Academy is supporting with the graduates, but even allowing for the 6 or 7 players now seriously involved in the first team squad, which is excellent by any standards, it is not enough. The fact that within the first 5 matches, players are playing through injury, however slight, is an extraordinary position to find ourselves in, and a direct result of the Board & Owners approach during the transfer and loan window.

You must put this right. You have a limited opportunity now to resolve the squad issues before the transfer/free agent window closes. If you have any intention to create unity, this is your opportunity. If you do not take this opportunity you will certainly lose my support and I believe you will lose the support of a considerable number of my fellow supporters.

You need to talk to us without the simplistic rhetoric and with honesty and openness.

You claimed, as Owners, that you will take us to the next level. This phase has now become a standing joke amongst supporters, as we can perceive nothing you have done to support this clear statement.

We have never asked for additional money but surely you see the best outcome for Owners, Supporters and the Club, is to act now and support our Manager and Players with a few additions, as the opinion of most of the supporters is, if you do that Graham Potter and his team are talented enough to get us into promotion contention. If you don’t, then you will be telling us your statement of ‘…taking us to the next level’ was meaningless.

For us — the supporters — it is heart-breaking to see what is unfolding in front of us and it feels as though either you don’t care or aren’t competent to stop us slipping into footballing obscurity. Please prove us wrong.


That's really good fair play.
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Scfc2 on 15:53 - Aug 29 with 5723 viewsLeonWasGod

Scfc2 on 15:41 - Aug 29 by JoshTheJack

That's really good fair play.


Not best timing mind 2 days before the loan widow shuts. But yes ok, although things like players playing through injury should be no surprise - it happens all the time (Mawson playing through a niggle that needed surgery in the summer, for example). So a little bit naive. Very polite mind (not sure if that's good or bad!).

And likely to be completely ignored.
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Scfc2 on 15:54 - Aug 29 with 5723 viewsherbie

Scfc2 on 15:41 - Aug 29 by JoshTheJack

That's really good fair play.


A bit late in the day though with the window closing this week. Has this even been sent yet?
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Scfc2 on 16:04 - Aug 29 with 5706 viewsJoshTheJack

It is late but all they can do is send it to the club and Walesonline and maybe try a few national papers.Stick it on twitter,facebook.I'd also add something relating to a reply aswell.A step in the right direction.
[Post edited 29 Aug 2018 16:04]
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Scfc2 on 16:32 - Aug 29 with 5619 viewsLoyal

Scfc2 on 14:07 - Aug 29 by Landore_Jack

Taken from SCFC2:

Dear Board & Owners,

There are a significant number of lifelong Swansea City supporters, me included, who have supported the club through the lows and highs of the last 50 years. We have seen the struggles and disappointments, as well the highs of recent years.

We have always been close to the Club and fresh calls for unity leave us confused. We are united with our Manager and Playing squad, but it seems that over recent years the Board & Owners have moved away from us. That is not something we, as fans, can resolve, it requires you as the Board & Owners to return to the community way of operation that formed the bedrock of our success.

We, the fans, have had to endure, in recent years. not just disappointment and relegation, but what appears to be the systematic dismantling our Club’s previous ethos and modus operandi, whether by accident or design. The Club is by far worse off as a result, and it isn’t something supporters approve of and will not ecourage the unity we need as a Club, so we can prosper in future.

Despite, the loss of the ‘The Swansea Way’, the change from Football-led identification and recruitment of hungry and talented players (both young and experienced) to extravagant and wasteful transfers, poor decision making regarding managerial appointments, and eventual relegation, we continue to support our Club.

The Board & Owners have clearly presided over a series of disastrous outcomes but the supporters continue to be loyal, as is clearly demonstrated by the large crowds still attending the Liberty Stadium for home games.

However, with all the poor stewardship over recent years, the current debacle regarding the transfer and loan windows, resulting in a squad, that is short on absolute personnel, personnel in key roles, and coverage for players suffering from injury, loss of form and yellow cards, is nothing short of indefensible.

At this point, it is worth saying, none of these comments reflect on our new manager Graham Potter, his coaching and recruitment teams and the players. We were all excited by the new appointment of Graham and the return to football and scouting led recruitment, and indeed the encouragement of academy graduates into the first team. Four of whom have now appeared regularly in the first team. The addition of the new players during the transfer window also are all exciting prospects who we have welcomed and already feel are ‘Jacks’ who will we hope start the renaissance of our Club.

Unfortunately, the renaissance will not occur until we have a squad with enough players in key roles and coverage for players who are injured. Already the decisions not to recruit key roles and essential replacements has put at risk what could have been an extraordinary start to the season. The season could easily become one where injuries could see the hard work the players have put into the initial matches at risk.

We understand that with the reduction in income following relegation, savings are required, and we support this, as we want to get back to the previous way of doing business. Whilst surgery is required, amputation is not. You cannot expect to reduce the size of the playing squad and not replace in key areas. The Academy is supporting with the graduates, but even allowing for the 6 or 7 players now seriously involved in the first team squad, which is excellent by any standards, it is not enough. The fact that within the first 5 matches, players are playing through injury, however slight, is an extraordinary position to find ourselves in, and a direct result of the Board & Owners approach during the transfer and loan window.

You must put this right. You have a limited opportunity now to resolve the squad issues before the transfer/free agent window closes. If you have any intention to create unity, this is your opportunity. If you do not take this opportunity you will certainly lose my support and I believe you will lose the support of a considerable number of my fellow supporters.

You need to talk to us without the simplistic rhetoric and with honesty and openness.

You claimed, as Owners, that you will take us to the next level. This phase has now become a standing joke amongst supporters, as we can perceive nothing you have done to support this clear statement.

We have never asked for additional money but surely you see the best outcome for Owners, Supporters and the Club, is to act now and support our Manager and Players with a few additions, as the opinion of most of the supporters is, if you do that Graham Potter and his team are talented enough to get us into promotion contention. If you don’t, then you will be telling us your statement of ‘…taking us to the next level’ was meaningless.

For us — the supporters — it is heart-breaking to see what is unfolding in front of us and it feels as though either you don’t care or aren’t competent to stop us slipping into footballing obscurity. Please prove us wrong.


Shouldn't there be people lining up now to slag them off and undermine them?

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Scfc2 on 17:48 - Aug 29 with 5504 viewsEasternJack

Scfc2 on 10:02 - Aug 29 by WarwickHunt

They need to drag that forum into the 80s so it can compete with this one.



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Scfc2 on 19:19 - Aug 29 with 5348 viewsBadlands

Scfc2 on 08:42 - Aug 29 by swan65split

What site is this?
Usual tack then to quash free speech , some sites have posters who demean and ridicule the opposition they hope the lurking public are gaslighted by their actions.



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Scfc2 on 11:05 - Aug 30 with 5075 viewsbuilthjack

A few old boys off here are on there

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Scfc2 on 13:14 - Aug 30 with 5012 viewsTheResurrection

Scfc2 on 16:32 - Aug 29 by Loyal

Shouldn't there be people lining up now to slag them off and undermine them?


I thought it was pitiful and really pathetic.

Bless us football fans and the curse of relegation.

Sad facks.

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Scfc2 on 13:20 - Aug 30 with 4997 viewsthornabyswan

Scfc2 on 13:14 - Aug 30 by TheResurrection

I thought it was pitiful and really pathetic.

Bless us football fans and the curse of relegation.

Sad facks.


Any idea who this Valleyboy poster is he doesn't seem to think much of Jenkins or the owners

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Scfc2 on 13:25 - Aug 30 with 4987 viewswaynekerr55

Scfc2 on 19:19 - Aug 29 by Badlands



You do realise he's taking the p*ss out of the propaganda machine of the prior regime, don't you?

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