| Putting your hand up — Preview on 18:52 - Mar 10 with 3727 views | jonath1 |
Thanks Clive.
The blue border has spread into the text as happens sometimes. Are you able to fix so can read? [Post edited 10 Mar 2023 18:52]
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| Putting your hand up — Preview on 18:55 - Mar 10 with 3716 views | Northernr |
sorry that's cos I've fcked the referee link up, thanks for flagging, fixed now |  | | |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 19:17 - Mar 10 with 3653 views | jonath1 |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 18:55 - Mar 10 by Northernr |
sorry that's cos I've fcked the referee link up, thanks for flagging, fixed now |
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| Putting your hand up — Preview on 22:02 - Mar 10 with 3267 views | Kensal_Ranger |
Outstanding - needed to be written down in one sitting. |  | | |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 23:15 - Mar 10 with 3085 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Extremely reasonable and articulate, especially given the circumatsnces.
Thanks Clive. |  |
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| Putting your hand up — Preview on 09:52 - Mar 11 with 2536 views | mart_Goblin |
Makes so much sense as usual, but sobering to think that quite literally some players are choosing not to play. Professionalism and self pride replaced by ego and wealth.
Food for thought.
During the early 90’s the players would play with many different injuries. Many would have injections before every match (not recommended of course) like Wegerle and Wilson. Holloway had a hernia operation on the Saturday and the following Saturday was winning the 6 mile club cross country run in pre season. They battled through and played with all sorts .
Except one, who ONLY played if he felt 100% right.
Our DoF. Hence we had a wealth of cover in that period, like Bradley Allen, Gary Penrice, Dennis Bailey, Garry Thompson, Devon White and latterly Gallen And Dichio.
Not blaming him but I wonder if that culture has been allowed to develop under his guise?
Don’t know but worth thinking about . [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 9:53]
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| Putting your hand up — Preview on 11:28 - Mar 11 with 2384 views | PinnerPaul |
Agree with most of that, but there is one flaw in the logic surrounding loan/out of contract players.
How is playing only a handful of decent games and then being out forever going to help any player get a new contract/decent loan next season?
For example, I can't see Man Utd or ANY PL club looking at Laird and thinking "Yep, he's the sort of bloke we need next season" | | | |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 12:04 - Mar 11 with 2332 views | Northernr |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 11:28 - Mar 11 by PinnerPaul |
Agree with most of that, but there is one flaw in the logic surrounding loan/out of contract players.
How is playing only a handful of decent games and then being out forever going to help any player get a new contract/decent loan next season?
For example, I can't see Man Utd or ANY PL club looking at Laird and thinking "Yep, he's the sort of bloke we need next season" |
Let’s pick this up again when we see where he ends up.
My prediction is he gets another very nice loan regardless. | | | |
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| Putting your hand up — Preview on 12:10 - Mar 11 with 2313 views | Noelmc |
Thanks Clive. Spot on as usual.
One sliver of hope for today is they don't have any of our ex-players (which also complicates today's betting strategy). |  | | |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 12:16 - Mar 11 with 2284 views | PinnerPaul |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 12:04 - Mar 11 by Northernr |
Let’s pick this up again when we see where he ends up.
My prediction is he gets another very nice loan regardless. |
You could be right, which once again, shows the strange way football works at times! | | | |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 12:28 - Mar 11 with 2247 views | Jules4367 |
"Mummy, I don't feel well and can't go to school today!"
"Really, Johnny? (insert names of choice here!). You were fine last night and through the night! What's wrong?"
"It's my left calf (insert body part of choice here!) - again"
" Oh Johnny, really! You know that the doctor and your trainer (insert how ever many numbers you want here) has looked at that and said that there is no problem and everything is fine!!"
"But mummy, what do they know! It is MY body and I know whether it hurts or not! I am not going to School!!"
"Dear dear dear Johnny! Those doctors are very qualified and are paid lots of money to make sure everything is ok and they have specialised equipment to check!!"
" But mummy, they don't know, they can't tell and when they poke my leg and I say 'Ouch that really hurts!!' I know it is not right!"
" But Johnny, I have been poking your calf all the while you have been talking to me and you haven't said 'Ouch once!!!'
" You have???"
"Yes, all the time you have been talking!"
"OUUCCHHH Mum, my leg REALLY hurts now!! I cannot go to School for two (insert number as applicable) months . Ouch Ouch Mummy, Ouch. It hurts - it really really does- I'm not making it up mummy, really I am not !"
"But Johnny, I have been poking the right calf all the time NOT the left!"
"Oh mummy, mummy, NOW my right calf hurts, it really does"
"Oh dear, those doctors! Why do they get paid if they cannot see how hurt your are and there are so many of them! No point my calling the doctor who looks after left calves today, I'll call the specialist who looks after right calf muscles and see if he can help but I doubt it"
"Me too mummy (chuckle) - I doubt it too (chortle) Thanks mummy!" | | | |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 13:14 - Mar 11 with 2166 views | francisbowles |
Haven't said it for a while Clive, so thanks for being the only bright star in this obsession through this very dark period.
U Rrrrrrrrs | | | |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 16:14 - Mar 11 with 1968 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 11:28 - Mar 11 by PinnerPaul |
Agree with most of that, but there is one flaw in the logic surrounding loan/out of contract players.
How is playing only a handful of decent games and then being out forever going to help any player get a new contract/decent loan next season?
For example, I can't see Man Utd or ANY PL club looking at Laird and thinking "Yep, he's the sort of bloke we need next season" |
When Laird started so well under Beale we said he was too good for the Championship and were afraid Utd would recall him .
I have watched the last 5 Utd games and apart from that Liverpool fiasco their back line is incredible.
There is ZERO chance Laird breaks into that first 11 and probably not even the match day squad .
He is much better off playing every week in the Championship IMO.
Of course he has thrown in the towel with us sadly | | | |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 18:08 - Mar 11 with 1850 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
| Putting your hand up — Preview on 09:52 - Mar 11 by mart_Goblin |
Makes so much sense as usual, but sobering to think that quite literally some players are choosing not to play. Professionalism and self pride replaced by ego and wealth.
Food for thought.
During the early 90’s the players would play with many different injuries. Many would have injections before every match (not recommended of course) like Wegerle and Wilson. Holloway had a hernia operation on the Saturday and the following Saturday was winning the 6 mile club cross country run in pre season. They battled through and played with all sorts .
Except one, who ONLY played if he felt 100% right.
Our DoF. Hence we had a wealth of cover in that period, like Bradley Allen, Gary Penrice, Dennis Bailey, Garry Thompson, Devon White and latterly Gallen And Dichio.
Not blaming him but I wonder if that culture has been allowed to develop under his guise?
Don’t know but worth thinking about . [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 9:53]
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It seems that we can afford to pay players of two contrasting types -
(1) Talented at Championship level but fragile
or
(2) Reliable and durable of League One or low Championship standard
You pays your money and takes your choice but don't expect the club to be able sign the best of both worlds unless we are lucky. | | | |
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