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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 10:33 - Nov 27 by blacky2013
I don't get why people are surprised by this. No government could lose the sort of money they get from fuel duty and not replace it. EVs are significantly heavier compared to a similar sized combustion engine car so will increase wear on roads so that will also increase costs. It won't be long before there is little difference between an EV and petrol/diesel car in terms of taxation.
Just to point out that diesel and petrol vehicles cause health issues related to air pollution, at great cost to the NHS. There are 43,000 premature deaths annually in the UK due to air pollution.
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 18:11 - Nov 27 with 1499 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 10:33 - Nov 27 by Lblock
My point entirely.
Will "we" be here in 100 years, a thousand years, ten thousand? Maybe, maybe not.
Climate change is a fact - it's been happening for millions and millions of years.
There may come a time when the only things sliding across a scorched desert or a frozen tundra (pick your own theory as suits) are Chelscum fans that have morphed into cockroaches but Mother Earth will still be here.
"Climate change is a fact - it's been happening for millions and millions of years."
Yes, but the many, peer reviewed studies which have indicated that recent CC and GW are man-made take into account natural influences on our climate. They allow for Milankovitch cycles and solar activity.
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 21:15 - Nov 27 with 1341 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 18:11 - Nov 27 by R_from_afar
"Climate change is a fact - it's been happening for millions and millions of years."
Yes, but the many, peer reviewed studies which have indicated that recent CC and GW are man-made take into account natural influences on our climate. They allow for Milankovitch cycles and solar activity.
All fair, but if china are powering up multiple coal fired power stations per month our (The UK's)best efforts will produce no negligable benifit either way.
I think the question should be have the costs of operating/owning an EV become low enough to impose the extra tax burden yet?
How do you think the budget will impact the proliferation of the technology from here on?
Chairman of the Junior Hoilett appreciation society
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 21:15 - Nov 27 by Hooping_Mad
All fair, but if china are powering up multiple coal fired power stations per month our (The UK's)best efforts will produce no negligable benifit either way.
I think the question should be have the costs of operating/owning an EV become low enough to impose the extra tax burden yet?
How do you think the budget will impact the proliferation of the technology from here on?
Even better is the fact that we don't burn coal anymore as it is not "GREEN", but we are happy to export to China to make money even though that them burning it will do the same damage to the planet than if WE burnt it.
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 17:59 - Nov 27 by R_from_afar
Just to point out that diesel and petrol vehicles cause health issues related to air pollution, at great cost to the NHS. There are 43,000 premature deaths annually in the UK due to air pollution.
My post wasn't an anti EV post or anything to do with the environmental benefits of EVs. I was merely pointing out that it was obvious that EVs were going to be taxed to make up for the lost revenue on fuel duty. EVs are good for local pollution issues but over the making of the vehicle and the mining for the battery metals etc and the way the various parts are then transported around the world make the whole low pollution spiel a bit dubious. Also pollution in general will only be better if we can get high polluting countries to meet the same pollution standards as us.
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 23:10 - Nov 27 with 1212 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 16:46 - Nov 27 by nick_hammersmith
Surely it must be getting harder to clock a car these days? My car has its own SIM card so it can connect to the internet for navigation etc. Its not beyond the wit of man for it to send its mileage and location back to HQ for some nefarious purposes.
Who is buying ex-Police cars? They must be the most abused vehicles going, driven pretty much 24/7
And the best maintained on the road as well way better than most second hand cars around usually with top spec parts due to the type of work they do
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 21:40 - Nov 27 by davman
Even better is the fact that we don't burn coal anymore as it is not "GREEN", but we are happy to export to China to make money even though that them burning it will do the same damage to the planet than if WE burnt it.
Go figure...
Who remembers the 'carbon credit' scheme.
Which was the modern equivilent of buying indulgences.
Chairman of the Junior Hoilett appreciation society
1) A new car does not have a MOT for 3 years. An EV can have the mileage turned back with a laptop in the right hands. 2) With the mining required and disposal of spent batteries EV are not environment friendly. 3) For anyone who has bought one have you had a service yet? What is the actual value of your car now? 4) Why does Milliband go round in a Range Rover diesel. 5) Why are showrooms forced to sell them under threat of large fines? 6) Why do they always quote registrations and not actual sales?
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 09:42 - Nov 28 with 958 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 09:16 - Nov 28 by DavieQPR
1) A new car does not have a MOT for 3 years. An EV can have the mileage turned back with a laptop in the right hands. 2) With the mining required and disposal of spent batteries EV are not environment friendly. 3) For anyone who has bought one have you had a service yet? What is the actual value of your car now? 4) Why does Milliband go round in a Range Rover diesel. 5) Why are showrooms forced to sell them under threat of large fines? 6) Why do they always quote registrations and not actual sales?
on point 2 batteries are recyclyed very very little waste from them these days
They dont need as much if any servicing last tesla owned for 36 months cost us around £15 quid to keep it on the road for windscreen washer fluid nothing else.
as for value prob similar to any car which is on the road , think u loose around 30% soon as you tyre hits the road for the first time , so all cars loose a shit load soon as u hit the road not just evs
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 09:47 - Nov 28 by BazzaInTheLoft
Anyone else incredibly depressed by some of the posts on this thread?
Yep its the samew when any story about ev hit the press loads who have neever driven one or infasct been inside one start spouting the same crap which they read on the internet
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 09:51 - Nov 28 by wombat
Yep its the samew when any story about ev hit the press loads who have neever driven one or infasct been inside one start spouting the same crap which they read on the internet
Thought the conversation was quite balanced. May not be heading the direction you'd like, but worth remembering the crap on the internet includes AI and most of the knowledge of humanity.
The issue at hand isn't 'EV good or Bad' its how the taxation will impact their proliferation.
Unless I'm reading a different thread.
Chairman of the Junior Hoilett appreciation society
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 09:47 - Nov 28 by BazzaInTheLoft
Anyone else incredibly depressed by some of the posts on this thread?
There's a big bad world out there...... not everyone will agree with your views, some might even use "hurty words" or be a bit aggressive becuase they think what you are foisting on them is ruining the way they've lived for decades.
Stick yourself down for some Goverment sponsored councilling or the like.
Much Love.
I.Diot
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 13:44 - Nov 28 with 716 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 21:15 - Nov 27 by Hooping_Mad
All fair, but if china are powering up multiple coal fired power stations per month our (The UK's)best efforts will produce no negligable benifit either way.
I think the question should be have the costs of operating/owning an EV become low enough to impose the extra tax burden yet?
How do you think the budget will impact the proliferation of the technology from here on?
What isn't mentioned on here is that they have also produced the world's largest battery - vanadium based - and built the world's largest hydroelectric dam.
That said, EVs aren't green, they are *greener*. A truly green car would have to made of a tree growing in your garden, with your own bare hands . Anything manufactured is going to involve greenhouse gas emissions. There are no perfect solutions, apart from walking, I suppose.
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 14:18 - Nov 28 with 669 views
What isn't mentioned on here is that they have also produced the world's largest battery - vanadium based - and built the world's largest hydroelectric dam.
That said, EVs aren't green, they are *greener*. A truly green car would have to made of a tree growing in your garden, with your own bare hands . Anything manufactured is going to involve greenhouse gas emissions. There are no perfect solutions, apart from walking, I suppose.
'That said, EVs aren't green, they are *greener*'
100%.
affordable / subsidised public transport is the only way forward.
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 14:58 - Nov 28 with 587 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 11:56 - Nov 28 by Lblock
There's a big bad world out there...... not everyone will agree with your views, some might even use "hurty words" or be a bit aggressive becuase they think what you are foisting on them is ruining the way they've lived for decades.
Stick yourself down for some Goverment sponsored councilling or the like.
Much Love.
I.Diot
I've been rebuked on the politics of offence by the resident tantrum thrower.
Like a Dr having his bedside manner questioned by Harold Shipman.
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 15:03 - Nov 28 with 549 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 14:18 - Nov 28 by BazzaInTheLoft
'That said, EVs aren't green, they are *greener*'
100%.
affordable / subsidised public transport is the only way forward.
My journey into town (about four junctions of the M4) is now £32 return by rail. That's not cheap enough, or quick enough to dissuade me from driving in for 30 mins and paying to park all day.
Public services need to be owned by the state, and subsidised to work for the public. Not run by, usually foreign companies for a profit, which usually doesn't go back into our economy anyway...
Its not great, and I don't see it getting any better
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 15:15 - Nov 28 with 540 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 14:58 - Nov 28 by BazzaInTheLoft
I've been rebuked on the politics of offence by the resident tantrum thrower.
Like a Dr having his bedside manner questioned by Harold Shipman.
There you go again. Flicking the switch Igor on posts i made 11 years ago or fishing around on my twitter account like an amyl nitrate soaked sex fiend with GHB priapism Headfirst in a skip In the breezeblock back yard of an Old Compton Street sex shop. Frantically searching for soiled gussets, stray pubes, and a fleurs-de-lys strap-on to sniff, seeking out the tatty trinkets and baubles to lay before your Politruck Superiors for a tickle on the tummy and a handful of Kibble.
You seem the sort of bloke who would inform on his neighbours for playing imperalist decadent chuck berry on their bulb transistor Radio through the thin paper walls of their Motorenwerk state owned prefabrication asbestos hovel. probably for party advancement and an extra cup of GDR pea flour Kaffe Mix coffee substitute before his shift at the factory producing time and motion studies of his comrades greasing hydraulic nipples in a tractor factory.
you diana doors titted chubby little wan ker.
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'Mecca Archer!.. There'll be no more talk of Mecca in this establishment!'
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 15:47 - Nov 28 with 492 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 15:15 - Nov 28 by Discodroids
There you go again. Flicking the switch Igor on posts i made 11 years ago or fishing around on my twitter account like an amyl nitrate soaked sex fiend with GHB priapism Headfirst in a skip In the breezeblock back yard of an Old Compton Street sex shop. Frantically searching for soiled gussets, stray pubes, and a fleurs-de-lys strap-on to sniff, seeking out the tatty trinkets and baubles to lay before your Politruck Superiors for a tickle on the tummy and a handful of Kibble.
You seem the sort of bloke who would inform on his neighbours for playing imperalist decadent chuck berry on their bulb transistor Radio through the thin paper walls of their Motorenwerk state owned prefabrication asbestos hovel. probably for party advancement and an extra cup of GDR pea flour Kaffe Mix coffee substitute before his shift at the factory producing time and motion studies of his comrades greasing hydraulic nipples in a tractor factory.
you diana doors titted chubby little wan ker.
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HAHA who even mentioned you?
I can't bring myself to read your tired and ripped off SS Irvine Welsh tribute act in full but i'll assume it's another offended self pitying whiny post.
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 15:50 - Nov 28 with 486 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 15:47 - Nov 28 by BazzaInTheLoft
HAHA who even mentioned you?
I can't bring myself to read your tired and ripped off SS Irvine Welsh tribute act in full but i'll assume it's another offended self pitying whiny post.
well dont dish it out then if you doint like it back.
You're not some Woodward and Bernstein deep throat expose super soldier on here, always dishing out your daily slow motion riot of political mantra to any c unt on here still left awake. You're a Morning Star politburo night-school hack in a heavily spunk rotted raincoat and Lacy suspenders.
A cheka berftie smalls. A grubby little paper shuffling schlieffen plan eunuch. Probably with a pickled onion small holding sourced from your allotment.
Forever Bio spliced in Molecular level mind-meld with the Momentum information tesseract, acting as it's conduit, you regurgitate their sanctioned data, flow charts , venn diagrams and demented text flowing through your fingertips onto the lenovo laptop keypad, and ultimately, LFW , letting some poor sap who only logged on to find out the latest JCS injujry news, the national annual GDP of the peoples republic of Benin.(That was a stone cold classic lol)
Please Fly back to the ramparts of Momentum HQ for a month or 12 and give us all time to have a bowel movement before another lecture on the great baltic state wheat famine of 1947.
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'Mecca Archer!.. There'll be no more talk of Mecca in this establishment!'
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 16:00 - Nov 28 with 453 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 15:50 - Nov 28 by Discodroids
well dont dish it out then if you doint like it back.
You're not some Woodward and Bernstein deep throat expose super soldier on here, always dishing out your daily slow motion riot of political mantra to any c unt on here still left awake. You're a Morning Star politburo night-school hack in a heavily spunk rotted raincoat and Lacy suspenders.
A cheka berftie smalls. A grubby little paper shuffling schlieffen plan eunuch. Probably with a pickled onion small holding sourced from your allotment.
Forever Bio spliced in Molecular level mind-meld with the Momentum information tesseract, acting as it's conduit, you regurgitate their sanctioned data, flow charts , venn diagrams and demented text flowing through your fingertips onto the lenovo laptop keypad, and ultimately, LFW , letting some poor sap who only logged on to find out the latest JCS injujry news, the national annual GDP of the peoples republic of Benin.(That was a stone cold classic lol)
Please Fly back to the ramparts of Momentum HQ for a month or 12 and give us all time to have a bowel movement before another lecture on the great baltic state wheat famine of 1947.
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I got to the third line this time.
I'll just assume this was just another angry Jim Davidson word salad.
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Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 16:03 - Nov 28 with 447 views
Electric cars to be taxed per mile. on 16:01 - Nov 28 by BazzaInTheLoft
I got to the third line this time.
I'll just assume this was just another angry Jim Davidson word salad.
at least we're not confronted with your estrogen pumped waxen medicine ball head in the avatar anymore. you look like you should be pushing the tea urn on E wing for the double denim sex cases. Giving limp blow jobs to the Daddy of the wing with his scott tracey thunderbird lips in exchange for a £2 phone card.
I'd rather shag yasmin alibhai-brown's 1976 john toschack barnet than see you on here every day jutting your chin out like mussolini in the back of his kubelwagen looking down on everyone like there something you shat out into a mother care plastic shitpot
You Fkn wrong'un.
'Mecca Archer!.. There'll be no more talk of Mecca in this establishment!'
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. Anything manufactured is going to involve greenhouse gas emissions. There are no perfect solutions, apart from walking, I suppose. 
