| Tonda Eckert 20:26 - Nov 2 with 5874 views | dirk_doone |
Let's get behind our new interim manager. He's done a tremendous job with the U21s, and significantly improved players. Their win at Tottenham on Saturday took them up to 4th in Premier League 2. He was also a first team coach at Barnsley when they made the Championship play-offs in 2021.
I'm expecting him to have a positive impact on our first team now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league-2/table [Post edited 2 Nov 20:29]
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| Tonda Eckert on 20:34 - Nov 2 with 4630 views | grumpy |
Must confess I didn't know much about him so I look up some details.
I didn't realize he had coached at academy level at Bayern Munich and RB Leipzig and been assistant Head Coach at Genoa.
Impressive.
Perhaps we should have made him Manager at the start of the season. [Post edited 2 Nov 20:36]
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| Tonda Eckert on 20:39 - Nov 2 with 4586 views | Southamptonfan |
| Tonda Eckert on 20:34 - Nov 2 by grumpy |
Must confess I didn't know much about him so I look up some details.
I didn't realize he had coached at academy level at Bayern Munich and RB Leipzig and been assistant Head Coach at Genoa.
Impressive.
Perhaps we should have made him Manager at the start of the season. [Post edited 2 Nov 20:36]
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No, he's too young with little championship experience. He is only 32. We need an experienced manager to sort this club out. Eckert will.just take.over for these next two.games. Ofvourse if we win both convincingly, he will be.considered then.. [Post edited 2 Nov 20:40]
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| Tonda Eckert on 20:43 - Nov 2 with 4554 views | DorsetIan |
Can he play in goal? | |
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| Tonda Eckert on 20:43 - Nov 2 with 4531 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Tonda Eckert on 20:39 - Nov 2 by Southamptonfan |
No, he's too young with little championship experience. He is only 32. We need an experienced manager to sort this club out. Eckert will.just take.over for these next two.games. Ofvourse if we win both convincingly, he will be.considered then.. [Post edited 2 Nov 20:40]
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But will the players have respect for the guy? In theory I'd like to think the players all know him but that could be a good or bad thing |  |
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| Tonda Eckert on 20:48 - Nov 2 with 4491 views | dirk_doone |
| Tonda Eckert on 20:43 - Nov 2 by kingslandstand1 |
But will the players have respect for the guy? In theory I'd like to think the players all know him but that could be a good or bad thing |
I'm not ITK about what goes on inside the Club, but he's certainly instilled some fighting spirit in that U21 team and he knows how to organise a defence as anyone who saw them battle to a a draw against the superior players of Real Madrid can testify. | |
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| Tonda Eckert on 20:58 - Nov 2 with 4416 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Tonda Eckert on 20:43 - Nov 2 by DorsetIan |
Can he play in goal? |
Tbf I'd like to think if he was a CF that would be more beneficial, but it seems he had a very short lived playing career | |
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| Tonda Eckert on 21:05 - Nov 2 with 4377 views | dirk_doone |
| Tonda Eckert on 20:58 - Nov 2 by kingslandstand1 |
Tbf I'd like to think if he was a CF that would be more beneficial, but it seems he had a very short lived playing career |
He was a central midfielder in the German equivalent of the National League - not that dissimilar to Lawrie McMenemy's background when he was appointed here.
I don't think that being German rather than English should be a problem as in recent years foreign managers have been winning the Championship more than English ones. In fact the last 9 Championships have been won by foreign managers, including some young ones. [Post edited 2 Nov 22:14]
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| Tonda Eckert on 21:18 - Nov 2 with 4262 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Tonda Eckert on 21:05 - Nov 2 by dirk_doone |
He was a central midfielder in the German equivalent of the National League - not that dissimilar to Lawrie McMenemy's background when he was appointed here.
I don't think that being German rather than English should be a problem as in recent years foreign managers have been winning the Championship more than English ones. In fact the last 9 Championships have been won by foreign managers, including some young ones. [Post edited 2 Nov 22:14]
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I think as you said at the start of this thread, we need to give the guy support from the start as I believe we did for WS, and he did actually in his first game, albeit with 2 injury time goals. But the issue is the lack of trust we all have in the owners doing what's best for the club rather than their own pockets.
So therefore we go in to this next era with trepidation | |
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| Tonda Eckert on 21:21 - Nov 2 with 4265 views | grumpy |
| Tonda Eckert on 21:18 - Nov 2 by kingslandstand1 |
I think as you said at the start of this thread, we need to give the guy support from the start as I believe we did for WS, and he did actually in his first game, albeit with 2 injury time goals. But the issue is the lack of trust we all have in the owners doing what's best for the club rather than their own pockets.
So therefore we go in to this next era with trepidation |
'So therefore we go in to this next era with trepidation'
That's true,but I would have been more worried if WS was still manager. | | | |
| Tonda Eckert on 21:29 - Nov 2 with 4231 views | dirk_doone |
| Tonda Eckert on 21:18 - Nov 2 by kingslandstand1 |
I think as you said at the start of this thread, we need to give the guy support from the start as I believe we did for WS, and he did actually in his first game, albeit with 2 injury time goals. But the issue is the lack of trust we all have in the owners doing what's best for the club rather than their own pockets.
So therefore we go in to this next era with trepidation |
A fair summary. Anyway, let's give him a chance and see what he can do. He's still going to be severely hampered, the same as a Will Still was, by Sport Republic's poor recruitment and the team's lack of a proper spine. | |
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| Tonda Eckert on 21:45 - Nov 2 with 4126 views | Heisenberg |
Let’s hope he sets the team up with 4 at the back and some attacking threat. And gives the under 21s a go in the first team. Saints have always been a club that promotes young players. Good luck to Will Still. Maybe he will become a good manager but it was way too early for him to take over Saints. |  |
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| Tonda Eckert on 08:55 - Nov 3 with 3690 views | dirk_doone |
You just never know.
The current Sunderland manager, Regis le Bris, coached Lorient's B team, then got his professional coaching licence in 2022, and became their 1st team manager, got them relegated in 2024, got sacked, then ended up at Championship club, Sunderland. The rest is history. The last nine Championship winners, as well as many of the other promoted teams, had foreign managers, several of whom had no previous experience of managing an English football team at any level.
Let's give Eckert a chance. It's a bit too soon to write him off already. With the spineless team Sport Republic's terrible recruitment has left us with, it's very unlikely that any manager could get us promoted. If we buy a proper goalkeeper, centre half and centre forward in January, we might at least lay the foundations for promotion next season.
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| Tonda Eckert on 08:59 - Nov 3 with 3678 views | jopreston |
| Tonda Eckert on 08:55 - Nov 3 by dirk_doone |
You just never know.
The current Sunderland manager, Regis le Bris, coached Lorient's B team, then got his professional coaching licence in 2022, and became their 1st team manager, got them relegated in 2024, got sacked, then ended up at Championship club, Sunderland. The rest is history. The last nine Championship winners, as well as many of the other promoted teams, had foreign managers, several of whom had no previous experience of managing an English football team at any level.
Let's give Eckert a chance. It's a bit too soon to write him off already. With the spineless team Sport Republic's terrible recruitment has left us with, it's very unlikely that any manager could get us promoted. If we buy a proper goalkeeper, centre half and centre forward in January, we might at least lay the foundations for promotion next season.
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In a way it kind of means SR are unlucky maybe? Or is every manager here doomed to fail due to influence and interference from above? |  | | |
| Tonda Eckert on 09:09 - Nov 3 with 3647 views | dirk_doone |
| Tonda Eckert on 08:59 - Nov 3 by jopreston |
In a way it kind of means SR are unlucky maybe? Or is every manager here doomed to fail due to influence and interference from above? |
I wonder how well Koeman and Pochettino would have done here if they'd had Sport Republic in charge of player recruitment? Not very well at all, I should imagine. If you don't have a proper goalkeeper or centre forward, you are pretty much doomed to fail. [Post edited 3 Nov 9:10]
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| Tonda Eckert on 09:17 - Nov 3 with 3597 views | saintwizzler |
Unless we get an experienced manager in we are League 1 bound.
Who the hell that would be god knows? |  |
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| Tonda Eckert on 09:23 - Nov 3 with 3577 views | dirk_doone |
| Tonda Eckert on 09:17 - Nov 3 by saintwizzler |
Unless we get an experienced manager in we are League 1 bound.
Who the hell that would be god knows? |
With our record-breaking team, with just 4 wins in 51 games, we should be looking for an inspirational, miracle worker rather than just an experienced manager.
There was an article the other day saying what happened to all the other teams that were relegated from the Premier League with fewer than 20 points. It doesn't make for pleasant reading and it's even worse in our case, because we were probably part of the all-time worst trio of relegated teams. [Post edited 3 Nov 9:32]
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| Tonda Eckert on 13:02 - Nov 3 with 3406 views | GRIM |
Think we are all missing the point.
It's not about getting the coach to win football matches, it's all about saving money.
They are hoping that Tonda does OK to save them looking elsewhere & spending money.
But the odds are against him doing well ( I personally hope he does) then SR will then have to think about spending money. | | | |
| Tonda Eckert on 11:15 - Nov 10 with 2741 views | dirk_doone |
Well, we are winning football matches at last and that's what counts. There should be no hurry to stop the winning run, just because the manager and his team selection don't accord with various fans' prejudices. When we're losing, not winning, is the time to change. There are always plenty of unemployed managers out there in need of a job, but you never know whether they'll win games here until after they arrive.
Right now, it seems there are some fans who'd prefer to see us lose rather than win without their preferred choice of manager or team selection. Some are even angry because we're winning. Personally, I think it's great to see the return of those "Saints win; Pompey lose" weekends. It's been a while. [Post edited 10 Nov 12:04]
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| Tonda Eckert on 18:54 - Nov 10 with 2534 views | washington_saint |
| Tonda Eckert on 11:15 - Nov 10 by dirk_doone |
Well, we are winning football matches at last and that's what counts. There should be no hurry to stop the winning run, just because the manager and his team selection don't accord with various fans' prejudices. When we're losing, not winning, is the time to change. There are always plenty of unemployed managers out there in need of a job, but you never know whether they'll win games here until after they arrive.
Right now, it seems there are some fans who'd prefer to see us lose rather than win without their preferred choice of manager or team selection. Some are even angry because we're winning. Personally, I think it's great to see the return of those "Saints win; Pompey lose" weekends. It's been a while. [Post edited 10 Nov 12:04]
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Your post on Nov 2 was spot on Dirk. Tonda has since given us 2 wins on the bounce with almost no time to make significant changes. But the tweaks he made have made a significant difference and it was noticeable on Saturday we were breaking at pace (and with several players) until we got to 2-0 up and then eased off.
I found some of the play (until 2-0) to be quite scintiallting and something we have been missing for a very, very long time.
I don't see the rush to appoint a new manager and I just have a feeling Tonda has something about him. And it may free up the pathway to the first team for our Academy. IT would have been so easy for him to bring on Aribo at HT (despite being a lazy, disinterested player) yet he stuck to his convictions and brough on an 18 year old for his debut and who did not let anyone down. | | | |
| Tonda Eckert on 19:13 - Nov 10 with 2499 views | mushinexile |
Rinse and repeat has done well for us for the last few years. All our managers left as millionaires so they must have been good.
Why on earth try something different just because we are winning matches? Give Eckert until January. I think he might surprise us all. If you can manage a team, age and experience don't really matter and the players won't turn on a winner. | |
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| Tonda Eckert on 20:08 - Nov 10 with 2452 views | StRipper |
| Tonda Eckert on 08:55 - Nov 3 by dirk_doone |
You just never know.
The current Sunderland manager, Regis le Bris, coached Lorient's B team, then got his professional coaching licence in 2022, and became their 1st team manager, got them relegated in 2024, got sacked, then ended up at Championship club, Sunderland. The rest is history. The last nine Championship winners, as well as many of the other promoted teams, had foreign managers, several of whom had no previous experience of managing an English football team at any level.
Let's give Eckert a chance. It's a bit too soon to write him off already. With the spineless team Sport Republic's terrible recruitment has left us with, it's very unlikely that any manager could get us promoted. If we buy a proper goalkeeper, centre half and centre forward in January, we might at least lay the foundations for promotion next season.
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A true comparison to Eckert is much closer to home. He is likely another Ruben Selles. Who drew one and won one as temporary Manager. Neither have ever played professional football. They were both appointed in June before being promoted the same year.
They both had no football playing style of their own, and just delivered an imitation of what the previous First team manager played.
They would both likely be very similar disasters as First Team Managers.
For some reason Eckert is being given all the credit by some for our youth team performances, despite Matt Etherington having been Under 21 coach since September 24, and therefore far more likely to have had an impact. In fact, he's a more credible appointment as Senior Manager than Eckert.
Regis Le Bris is 49. He played Senior football for 10 years, including International appearances. He coached at Lorient from 2015 to 2024. Eckert is 17 years younger and has NONE of that relevant experience. Just the Ruben Selles unfathomable stare.
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| Tonda Eckert on 20:22 - Nov 10 with 2434 views | sledger |
Eckert is at least giving the SR clowns some breathing space to perhaps,maybe,hopefully make the fight calls | | | |
| Tonda Eckert on 13:13 - Nov 22 with 1818 views | dirk_doone |
| Tonda Eckert on 18:54 - Nov 10 by washington_saint |
Your post on Nov 2 was spot on Dirk. Tonda has since given us 2 wins on the bounce with almost no time to make significant changes. But the tweaks he made have made a significant difference and it was noticeable on Saturday we were breaking at pace (and with several players) until we got to 2-0 up and then eased off.
I found some of the play (until 2-0) to be quite scintiallting and something we have been missing for a very, very long time.
I don't see the rush to appoint a new manager and I just have a feeling Tonda has something about him. And it may free up the pathway to the first team for our Academy. IT would have been so easy for him to bring on Aribo at HT (despite being a lazy, disinterested player) yet he stuck to his convictions and brough on an 18 year old for his debut and who did not let anyone down. |
"I found some of the play to be quite scintillating and something we have been missing for a very, very long time."
Too true. If Eckert had been in charge from the start of the season, we might well be top of the table now.
A couple of people on here are going to be very unhappy indeed. Performances like this are their worst nightmare  | |
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| Tonda Eckert on 13:34 - Nov 22 with 1738 views | saintwizzler |
| Tonda Eckert on 13:13 - Nov 22 by dirk_doone |
"I found some of the play to be quite scintillating and something we have been missing for a very, very long time."
Too true. If Eckert had been in charge from the start of the season, we might well be top of the table now.
A couple of people on here are going to be very unhappy indeed. Performances like this are their worst nightmare |
Just shows what a total fück up the appointment of Will Still was. | |
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