| Harvey Elliott 22:05 - Feb 12 with 3733 views | bob566 |
Never knew he was released by us |  | | |  |
| Harvey Elliott on 08:00 - Feb 13 with 3487 views | Rangersw12 |
Wasn't he poached by Fulham rather than us releasing him | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 08:02 - Feb 13 with 3482 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Harvey Elliott on 08:00 - Feb 13 by Rangersw12 |
Wasn't he poached by Fulham rather than us releasing him |
Blackburn commentary last night suggested we let him go for being too small and soon after was playing for Fulham. | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 08:32 - Feb 13 with 3407 views | nix |
| Harvey Elliott on 08:02 - Feb 13 by Watford_Ranger |
Blackburn commentary last night suggested we let him go for being too small and soon after was playing for Fulham. |
Unbelievably Fulham will only get a starting point of £1.2 million compensation for him. To get the maximum £4 million he'll have to play a hundred games for Liverpool and get a full England cap. That's nothing when you compare the massive amounts a club like Liverpool spend on wages and transfer fees for overseas players. Meanwhile clubs like us, Brentford and Fulham, are trying to make themselves sustainable by adding value to young players. The whole thing is a farce and rigging the financial situation increasingly in the favour of bigger Premiership clubs. The thing is they need the Championship to survive long term. If you don't get clubs interested in watching their local clubs, they're less likely to spend the squillions required to keep Sky going. |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 09:09 - Feb 13 with 3335 views | TGRRRSSS |
Not just Sky though, also BT and Amazon having a look - intriguing they didnt make a more serious offer for the whole shebang, but I think it may suggest football is finally at saturation point, but there's clearly appetite for games - the BBC games prove that much, but the actua continual cost.
As for Elliott situation I fear that kind of thing will get worse - typical QPR failing in that era to spot someone.  |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 09:12 - Feb 13 with 3323 views | GroveR |
"The thing is they need the Championship to survive long term."
They don't. |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 09:15 - Feb 13 with 3310 views | TGRRRSSS |
They might... People get bored eventually, and many of the so called fans watching from afar are only as interested as the latest fashion accessory they treat it to be.
If suddenly NBA became the thing everywhere - then that focus and money would go asd quickly as a discarded empty crisp packet.. | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 09:50 - Feb 13 with 3242 views | QPRSteve |
I'm pretty sure he was poached as well. | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 10:25 - Feb 13 with 3173 views | CheshireR |
Fulham poached him at 11 - although he had previously come to QPR from Fulham as an eight year old.
The extract below is from an Athletic article by James Pearce:
Born in Chertsey, Elliott trained with Fulham but left at the age of eight to join the youth ranks at Queens Park Rangers. Speak to those coaches who worked with him and the same words keep on cropping up – driven, focused, dedicated, humble and gifted. He grew up idolising Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard.
There was never any danger of Elliott getting too big for his boots. During one game for QPR’s under-10s away to Tottenham, he scored nine and set up the other one in a 10-1 win. When he got in the car to go home, his dad wanted to talk about his role in Tottenham’s consolation goal after his son had allowed their winger to get in behind him.
“When I first watched Harvey in a game he did OK but the next day in training he blew me away with his talent,” says Scott Chickelday, his under-11s manager at QPR, who now delivers specialist attacking coaching sessions for Elite Player UK. “He had been stuck out on the left but I decided to start playing him through the middle and he really blossomed. You can never be too sure at that age whether they will go on to make it but he had all the tools.
“He was rapid, had an unbelievable touch and he had an end product in the final third. He trained how he played. He had the mentality to be a professional footballer. He was one of the quietest of the group but very respectful and a lovely kid.
“I remember one under-11s game against Chelsea at Cobham. We used to get beat by Chelsea all the time because they were always so strong. We were 4-1 down. I wasn’t happy at half-time and Harvey gave me that kind of look that says, ‘OK, I’ll show you’. He came to life, scored a hat-trick and we fought back to draw 4-4.
“That’s Harvey all over. He was unbelievable in that second half. It was like something out of a film.”
Elliott left QPR at the age of 11 and returned to Fulham’s academy. He attended Coombe Boys’ School, next to the London club’s Motspur Park training ground. Brothers Ryan and Steven Sessegnon also studied there. |  | | |
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| Harvey Elliott on 11:32 - Feb 14 with 2732 views | francisbowles |
| Harvey Elliott on 08:32 - Feb 13 by nix |
Unbelievably Fulham will only get a starting point of £1.2 million compensation for him. To get the maximum £4 million he'll have to play a hundred games for Liverpool and get a full England cap. That's nothing when you compare the massive amounts a club like Liverpool spend on wages and transfer fees for overseas players. Meanwhile clubs like us, Brentford and Fulham, are trying to make themselves sustainable by adding value to young players. The whole thing is a farce and rigging the financial situation increasingly in the favour of bigger Premiership clubs. The thing is they need the Championship to survive long term. If you don't get clubs interested in watching their local clubs, they're less likely to spend the squillions required to keep Sky going. |
Don't know if you have seen this Nix
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41839083
I haven't read it all yet but it seems to suggest, which I had suspected that if he had been with us we would have got less. Fulham is a Cat 1 (Tier 2 whatever that means) academy, we are cat 2.2, I think. | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 12:23 - Feb 14 with 2645 views | nix |
| Harvey Elliott on 11:32 - Feb 14 by francisbowles |
Don't know if you have seen this Nix
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41839083
I haven't read it all yet but it seems to suggest, which I had suspected that if he had been with us we would have got less. Fulham is a Cat 1 (Tier 2 whatever that means) academy, we are cat 2.2, I think. |
It seems from this article like you can claim £40k for each year a player has been in your cat 1 academy and £25k for a category 2 academy (this was in 2017 and I'm not sure the same rules apply now? But in practice most academies wave the fee for players who are not being poached (i.e. leaving because a bigger club has come in for them) but want to leave because they're not really highly thought of in that academy and don't see a path into their first team. However it seems like Derby are holding this guy to the fee, even though it seems like they don't particularly want him themselves. So he is limbo. I just looked him up and to his credit he went to a non league club and after a couple of years was released from the Derby obligations and is now at Sheffield United.
This seems a different scenario from that where a bigger club just swoops in and takes your best young talent. But I'm not sure how you could actually devise rules to differentiate between the two! | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 15:33 - Feb 14 with 2525 views | eghamranger |
I’ve played Golf with his dad and he was the DJ at my 40th...
Do you remember those 40th type celebrations ... |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 15:38 - Feb 14 with 2503 views | Boston |
| Harvey Elliott on 15:33 - Feb 14 by eghamranger |
I’ve played Golf with his dad and he was the DJ at my 40th...
Do you remember those 40th type celebrations ... |
Kipper ties? | |
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| Harvey Elliott on 15:53 - Feb 14 with 2460 views | eghamranger |
| Harvey Elliott on 15:38 - Feb 14 by Boston |
Kipper ties? |
12 years ago. Wasn’t fancy Dress 😂 | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 18:19 - Feb 14 with 2345 views | distortR |
| Harvey Elliott on 15:38 - Feb 14 by Boston |
Kipper ties? |
two sugars, please | | | |
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