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Obafemi update 11:13 - May 4 with 6404 viewsKeithHaynes

From his new manager.

“You can see the threat he’s got in those moments but in order to play 90 minutes at the intensity and the tempo we play at, he’s certainly on his way, but I always feel at the moment there is some other guys that are a little bit further and so we’re not going to force anything because you run the risk of injuries then.”

Not fit enough ?

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Obafemi update on 18:04 - May 6 with 1488 viewsonehunglow

Obafemi update on 23:39 - May 4 by Fireboy2

The players imo are ultimately responsible for their own fitness.

There is a famous saying 'you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink'


True enough but also the case of clubs not always monitoring and mentoring players on their book
I think we seem to do ok though
Ncham playing a whole game ... beautiful

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Obafemi update on 08:44 - May 7 with 1385 viewsRichardO

Obafemi update on 23:33 - May 4 by jackrmee

Not because of fitness.
Usually crazy individual errors.


Obefemi fitness issues may be down to what he is being asked to do during a game, one of his biggest assets is his pace, the energy he expends during his sprints must be considerable and the amount of sprinting he has been asked to do has obviously causing him injuries in the past.
The likes of Dyer, Rouledge and Sinclair were protected and if they seemed to be struggling would be replaced or benched for rotation.
Obefemi had a successful run in the team but was rested, he may think dropped giving Piroe the lead role or maybe
a case of Martin thought he was unable to fit both in the system he wanted to play not being able to adapt the team to suit both.
Just going back to the damage that can be caused by relying on players pace you just have to look at Montero, outstanding at what he was able to do but that hamstring injury became such an issue, bad luck or over use and not being protected, many players with blistering pace have struggled, Giggs had to adapt his game with Ferguson help, Michael Owens career cut short, Sterling and Aguero moved on once they were unable to match Pep''s required levels.
Why did Dan James end up looking so good at the second half of his final year before being transferred, still young enough to not be affected by injury, playing in a system that protected him with players around his sharing the load or just looking good at the level he was playing at the time.

Are Obefemi's life style or his work ethics problems maybe, maybe not, his work or are his expectations for himself too high time will tell.

As for the crazy individual errors, they are errors that the opposition set up to force, to exploit the weakness in our system, a system which needs to adapt to what happening at any given moment in a game allowing the players make the right choices to prevent those errors being created.
Sometimes players on the pitch can see what is going wrong amd can adapt but sometimes the manager has to intervene, adaptability and stability all round is key but one system doesn't fit all.cases and teams abilities need to be taken into account as well as the opposition.
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Obafemi update on 08:54 - May 7 with 1375 viewsModeratorD

Obafemi update on 18:04 - May 6 by onehunglow

True enough but also the case of clubs not always monitoring and mentoring players on their book
I think we seem to do ok though
Ncham playing a whole game ... beautiful


Obafemi never struck me as lacking fitness.
When on his game he was brilliant.
However he let himself down sadly.
Seems to be repeating that already at Burnley?
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Obafemi update on 08:57 - May 7 with 1372 viewsbuilthjack

Obafemi update on 08:54 - May 7 by ModeratorD

Obafemi never struck me as lacking fitness.
When on his game he was brilliant.
However he let himself down sadly.
Seems to be repeating that already at Burnley?


It all comes down to attitude. He seemed a bad egg.

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Obafemi update on 09:11 - May 7 with 1355 viewsWhiterockin

Obafemi update on 08:57 - May 7 by builthjack

It all comes down to attitude. He seemed a bad egg.


This. The sooner people stop making excuses for him the sooner he may learn, but I doubt it.

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Obafemi update on 17:01 - May 8 with 1259 viewsKeithHaynes

Obafemi update on 09:11 - May 7 by Whiterockin

This. The sooner people stop making excuses for him the sooner he may learn, but I doubt it.


Anyone care to mention why he wasn’t even in the squad today ?

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Obafemi update on 17:25 - May 8 with 1220 viewsguthrieintherain

Obafemi update on 17:01 - May 8 by KeithHaynes

Anyone care to mention why he wasn’t even in the squad today ?


Vincent didn't take long to suss him out.

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Obafemi update on 17:41 - May 8 with 1196 viewsguthrieintherain

Obafemi update on 17:01 - May 8 by KeithHaynes

Anyone care to mention why he wasn’t even in the squad today ?


Vincent didn't take long to suss him out.
Hope we got the fee in the bank.
[Post edited 8 May 2023 17:42]

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Obafemi update on 19:23 - May 8 with 1092 viewsKeithHaynes

Obafemi update on 17:41 - May 8 by guthrieintherain

Vincent didn't take long to suss him out.
Hope we got the fee in the bank.
[Post edited 8 May 2023 17:42]


They can’t renege on the deal or they pay up and give him back.

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Obafemi update on 21:00 - May 8 with 981 viewsvetchonian

Obafemi update on 17:01 - May 8 by KeithHaynes

Anyone care to mention why he wasn’t even in the squad today ?


maybe fir the same reason Walsh and Fulton were missing from our squad

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Obafemi update on 21:20 - May 8 with 925 viewsKeithHaynes

Obafemi update on 21:00 - May 8 by vetchonian

maybe fir the same reason Walsh and Fulton were missing from our squad


Link ?,

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Obafemi update on 21:23 - May 8 with 917 viewsvetchonian

Obafemi update on 21:20 - May 8 by KeithHaynes

Link ?,


dont know I was just offering a possible reason.....there are no links to suggest other reasons either.....

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Obafemi update on 21:27 - May 8 with 905 viewsKeithHaynes

Obafemi update on 21:23 - May 8 by vetchonian

dont know I was just offering a possible reason.....there are no links to suggest other reasons either.....


What other reasons ?

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Obafemi update on 21:28 - May 8 with 889 viewsswan_si

A lot of good defensive, and counter attacking tactics on display
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Obafemi update on 21:35 - May 8 with 847 viewsraynor94

Obafemi update on 21:23 - May 8 by vetchonian

dont know I was just offering a possible reason.....there are no links to suggest other reasons either.....


Apart from Kompany saying he's not fit enough, hasn't made a starting 11 since joining them

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Obafemi update on 21:41 - May 8 with 807 viewsvetchonian

Obafemi update on 21:35 - May 8 by raynor94

Apart from Kompany saying he's not fit enough, hasn't made a starting 11 since joining them


bit like Natcham when he arrived with us I suppose.
amazing how even he has gone many still keep pointing to Oba as the bad boy....mayne he was/is but he's gone now.
It's all about defending Martin.....well he has finished the season well let's see how next season starts but Russ no longer needs extra help

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Obafemi update on 21:53 - May 8 with 777 viewsswan_si

Obafemi update on 21:41 - May 8 by vetchonian

bit like Natcham when he arrived with us I suppose.
amazing how even he has gone many still keep pointing to Oba as the bad boy....mayne he was/is but he's gone now.
It's all about defending Martin.....well he has finished the season well let's see how next season starts but Russ no longer needs extra help


Looking back over this thread, I've seen Martin's name mentioned once, I really can't see how, " it's all about Martin", read the the posts again.
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Obafemi update on 22:02 - May 8 with 753 viewsFireboy2

Obafemi update on 21:53 - May 8 by swan_si

Looking back over this thread, I've seen Martin's name mentioned once, I really can't see how, " it's all about Martin", read the the posts again.


Well his top fan joined the thread 🙄
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Obafemi update on 22:06 - May 8 with 727 viewsKeithHaynes

Obafemi update on 21:41 - May 8 by vetchonian

bit like Natcham when he arrived with us I suppose.
amazing how even he has gone many still keep pointing to Oba as the bad boy....mayne he was/is but he's gone now.
It's all about defending Martin.....well he has finished the season well let's see how next season starts but Russ no longer needs extra help


Who said he’s a bad boy ?

Don’t mention defending and Martin in the same sentence.,

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Obafemi update on 22:07 - May 8 with 724 viewsswan_si

Obafemi update on 22:02 - May 8 by Fireboy2

Well his top fan joined the thread 🙄


should've pointed out the latest addition to the thread, hopefully he won't notice.
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Obafemi update on 22:40 - May 8 with 657 viewsgrabsplatter

Obafemi update on 21:41 - May 8 by vetchonian

bit like Natcham when he arrived with us I suppose.
amazing how even he has gone many still keep pointing to Oba as the bad boy....mayne he was/is but he's gone now.
It's all about defending Martin.....well he has finished the season well let's see how next season starts but Russ no longer needs extra help


Not at all, Ntcham was starting games from the start with us, just wasn't fit enough to finish them.
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