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Welsh Democracy Threatened 08:43 - Sep 19 with 5901 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Under the proposals to extend the Senedd, where a Senedd member has to resign they will automatically be replaced by their party rather than have a by election.
If they are Independent they will not be replaced leaving the constituency with reduced representation.

Section 91.
If a vacant seat arises (for example, due to a Member resigning or passing away) under a closed proportional list system we would anticipate that this would be filled through the next candidate on a party’s list gaining that seat. Given that this will be a proportional system, we would see little merit in a by-election being run.

[Post edited 19 Sep 2023 22:15]

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 08:51 - Sep 19 with 2434 viewsWhiterockin

Just posted this on another thread. It looks like more legislation being pushed through to suit the main parties in Wales.

https://www.gov.wales/senedd-reform

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 08:53 - Sep 19 with 2430 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 08:51 - Sep 19 by Whiterockin

Just posted this on another thread. It looks like more legislation being pushed through to suit the main parties in Wales.

https://www.gov.wales/senedd-reform


How on earth can you leave a constituency unrepresented? Can anyone justify this?

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 09:04 - Sep 19 with 2416 viewsWhiterockin

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 08:53 - Sep 19 by JACKMANANDBOY

How on earth can you leave a constituency unrepresented? Can anyone justify this?


I know this may sound ridiculous, but does the Senedd currently have to justify anything to anybody before May 2026.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 09:53 - Sep 19 with 2397 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 08:51 - Sep 19 by Whiterockin

Just posted this on another thread. It looks like more legislation being pushed through to suit the main parties in Wales.

https://www.gov.wales/senedd-reform


Looks like legislation to suit labour. I cannot see any other party getting any advantage through this undemocrtic power grab.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 10:11 - Sep 19 with 2386 viewsWhiterockin

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 09:53 - Sep 19 by felixstowe_jack

Looks like legislation to suit labour. I cannot see any other party getting any advantage through this undemocrtic power grab.


This is what some fail to grasp. Political parties put things in their manifesto, but when implemented the devil is in the detail. The headline is the Senedd to add 36 more Parliament Members, but how many actually know or understand how they will be elected.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 10:15 - Sep 19 with 2382 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 09:04 - Sep 19 by Whiterockin

I know this may sound ridiculous, but does the Senedd currently have to justify anything to anybody before May 2026.


Not tsure what role the electoral commission has here, it appears that the electoral law is being changed?

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 10:35 - Sep 19 with 2359 viewsblackswan

don't worry my mate Dai Fawkes has a plan
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 14:20 - Sep 19 with 2268 viewsBoundy

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 10:35 - Sep 19 by blackswan

don't worry my mate Dai Fawkes has a plan


Hope he's more successful than his namesake

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 14:22 - Sep 19 with 2269 viewsWingstandwood

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 10:35 - Sep 19 by blackswan

don't worry my mate Dai Fawkes has a plan


"Dai Fawkes"

Argus!

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 14:35 - Sep 19 with 2258 viewsFlashberryjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 08:53 - Sep 19 by JACKMANANDBOY

How on earth can you leave a constituency unrepresented? Can anyone justify this?


I'm sure Drakeford the dictator will find a way to justify it.

Cementing the Senedd into a position where they can never be abolished.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:31 - Sep 19 with 2195 viewsSullutaCreturned

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 14:35 - Sep 19 by Flashberryjack

I'm sure Drakeford the dictator will find a way to justify it.

Cementing the Senedd into a position where they can never be abolished.


This has to be challenged any way we can.

Surely the resident Labour acolytes cannot defend this blatant attack on democracy?
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:03 - Sep 19 with 2167 viewsLuther27

Would this have to be passed by the Westminster Government? How far can the Senedd proceed with undemocratic legislation?
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 21:37 - Sep 19 with 2135 viewsmax936

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:31 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned

This has to be challenged any way we can.

Surely the resident Labour acolytes cannot defend this blatant attack on democracy?


Virtually making Wales a closed shop, although it has been like that for years, but its verging on a dictatorship by going down the road that they're looking to go down.

36 new posts at a cost of 12 million which could be used for lots of things that need doing, madness.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 16:39 - Sep 20 with 2032 viewsSullutaCreturned

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 21:37 - Sep 19 by max936

Virtually making Wales a closed shop, although it has been like that for years, but its verging on a dictatorship by going down the road that they're looking to go down.

36 new posts at a cost of 12 million which could be used for lots of things that need doing, madness.


When I vote I want to know who I'm voting for, the person who will beome the MS or MP. The idea that we will vote purely for the party and then they will decide is horrendous.

Drakeford was long a supporter of Corbyn (it's why Starmer isn't keen on him) and maybe this is why we should all pay closer attention and people who never vote should actually take an interest. If they don't and we get stuck with Labour again, how do we reverse these anti democratic proposals?

maybe we need to send a petition to Westminster, contact our MP's and complain?
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:43 - Sep 20 with 1995 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 16:39 - Sep 20 by SullutaCreturned

When I vote I want to know who I'm voting for, the person who will beome the MS or MP. The idea that we will vote purely for the party and then they will decide is horrendous.

Drakeford was long a supporter of Corbyn (it's why Starmer isn't keen on him) and maybe this is why we should all pay closer attention and people who never vote should actually take an interest. If they don't and we get stuck with Labour again, how do we reverse these anti democratic proposals?

maybe we need to send a petition to Westminster, contact our MP's and complain?


The worst suggestion ever.

So ….the welsh government voted for by welsh people living in wales has an escalation path for a handful of unhappy right wing Brit Nats to the English Tory government that next to nobody in Wales voted for. Rightio.

Stand a party up in Wales and if the majority agree with you then you are in business.

Westminster has broken the UK.
Would you escalate to the hard partying Johnson, or dull as a failed lettuce Truss…?
They lied to the Queen, they called judges Enemies of the People, they looted the poblic purse in a pandemic.

Corrupt English Torys have no part to play in the future of Wales. None.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:48 - Sep 20 with 1996 viewsGwyn737

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:43 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack

The worst suggestion ever.

So ….the welsh government voted for by welsh people living in wales has an escalation path for a handful of unhappy right wing Brit Nats to the English Tory government that next to nobody in Wales voted for. Rightio.

Stand a party up in Wales and if the majority agree with you then you are in business.

Westminster has broken the UK.
Would you escalate to the hard partying Johnson, or dull as a failed lettuce Truss…?
They lied to the Queen, they called judges Enemies of the People, they looted the poblic purse in a pandemic.

Corrupt English Torys have no part to play in the future of Wales. None.


That’s just a word salad.

I have no idea what you’re on about 🤷🏻
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 18:32 - Sep 20 with 1974 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:48 - Sep 20 by Gwyn737

That’s just a word salad.

I have no idea what you’re on about 🤷🏻


If you find this happens a lot, then you might try night school.

Good luck with your studies.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 18:39 - Sep 20 with 1967 viewsSullutaCreturned

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 18:32 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack

If you find this happens a lot, then you might try night school.

Good luck with your studies.


Would you say that to a teacher? How about a headmaster?

Maybe try making posts that make sense to anyone but you....and Trampie!

Obviously Westminster has a say in Wales future, they will decide how much money Wales gets AND they still have the final say on non devolved matters, you don't seem to know very much, besides how to make a word salad.
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:21 - Sep 20 with 1945 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:43 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack

The worst suggestion ever.

So ….the welsh government voted for by welsh people living in wales has an escalation path for a handful of unhappy right wing Brit Nats to the English Tory government that next to nobody in Wales voted for. Rightio.

Stand a party up in Wales and if the majority agree with you then you are in business.

Westminster has broken the UK.
Would you escalate to the hard partying Johnson, or dull as a failed lettuce Truss…?
They lied to the Queen, they called judges Enemies of the People, they looted the poblic purse in a pandemic.

Corrupt English Torys have no part to play in the future of Wales. None.


Are the 300,000 living people in Wales who have signed the petition all right Britsh Nationals ?

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:32 - Sep 20 with 1928 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:48 - Sep 20 by Gwyn737

That’s just a word salad.

I have no idea what you’re on about 🤷🏻


99% of people on this board have no idea what he is on about either. Whenever he had lost the argument he resorts to insults.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:47 - Sep 20 with 1920 viewsBoundy

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:32 - Sep 20 by felixstowe_jack

99% of people on this board have no idea what he is on about either. Whenever he had lost the argument he resorts to insults.


Its what children do .

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:53 - Sep 20 with 1917 viewsGwyn737

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:32 - Sep 20 by felixstowe_jack

99% of people on this board have no idea what he is on about either. Whenever he had lost the argument he resorts to insults.


I genuinely can’t see what on earth his response has to do with Cat’s post 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:05 - Sep 20 with 1902 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:53 - Sep 20 by Gwyn737

I genuinely can’t see what on earth his response has to do with Cat’s post 🤷🏻‍♂️


Try reading it s-l-o-w-l-y …. Good luck

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:07 - Sep 20 with 1900 viewsGwyn737

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:05 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack

Try reading it s-l-o-w-l-y …. Good luck


I’d be better off reading it backwards.
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:10 - Sep 20 with 1897 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 18:39 - Sep 20 by SullutaCreturned

Would you say that to a teacher? How about a headmaster?

Maybe try making posts that make sense to anyone but you....and Trampie!

Obviously Westminster has a say in Wales future, they will decide how much money Wales gets AND they still have the final say on non devolved matters, you don't seem to know very much, besides how to make a word salad.


Gwyn might well be a teacher or head teacher - i have no idea.

Are you suggesting that we should check the occupation of posters before we reply in future ?

Not as boring as your usual posts, but a dumb idea for sure.
To be clear …. i am not calling you dumb, the idea you appear to be suggesting is a dumb ass idea.

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