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I hope this is and stays just a rumour.
at 15:02 16 Jun 2024

Blimey, imagine the frenzy on Sky when Frank Lampard's Sunderland play Wayne Rooney's Plymouth.

I could see why Marti might be tempted by Burnley. Sunderland? For all they're a bigger club than either us or Burnley, I'm not sure it's a good career move for him now.
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Armstrong extended
at 12:51 14 Jun 2024

Interesting debate...with almost everyone, pro- and anti-, adding caveats.

Problem is tho...it looks like his agent doesn't want him to sign a new deal even if the club wants him to.
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Armstrong extended
at 08:33 13 Jun 2024

I'm generally in the 'bags of potential' / 'he's only 20 ffs' / 'adds a different dimension to the team' / 'would love to see him make it with us' camp.

But we all know we've got to move on from being held to ransom by tw@t agents.

For all his many ups & downs, Willock's agent is in a position to put together a damn impressive showreel that could make clubs with a few more quid than us take a punt. I'd love to see how Armstrong's agent is pitching his client to any club that has more money / higher aspirations than us...

I don't normally read too much into these things, but when Dunne's contract extension was triggered, Jimmy was quoted as follows:

“I am really happy to be staying at QPR,”...subtext, I like it here, I've not done enough to get a move to a bigger / richer club, me & my agent reckon take the extension, try to build on the second half of last season, then either earn a better contract at QPR or be able to move on a free next year.

The contrast to no quote at all from Armstrong is quite stark.
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Eze for England!
at 14:51 7 Jun 2024

With you 100% PS.

He's also created a spirit in the squad we haven't had in years, players want to be called up, they all enjoy it when they get there, and club rivalries are put to one side.
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Confession time - Play off winners
at 11:42 28 May 2024

The season as a whole was a slog. I get where Ted's coming from - if players put a shift in, all good, and to be fair a good chunk of that squad did, even if we knew many were here only for the money or due to Redknapp being allowed to stockpile. But blimey we made hard work of it, some of the awaydays were painful.

As Dave says, the final itself was a real bucket list day which I'll never forget. The bizarre offshoot for me living in Nottingham is to this day all my Forest mates celebrate 'Zamora day' as much as, maybe more than, we do.

The reason I can't share in the anniversary nostalgia fest is I remain angry and bitter about what happened next. We'd cocked up our first period back in the top flight for aeons - by gambling with all the FFP etc rules, we squeaked a second opportunity at what could and should have been a transformative season for the club in a positive way. And within weeks completely screwed it up and left the club in a mess we're still inching our way out of.
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End of Term 23/24 – Attack
at 01:54 26 May 2024

Thanks for another season of superlative writing Northern.

Enjoy your well earned break!
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Southgate’s replacement.
at 23:18 21 May 2024

I disagree re Maddison being one of his boys. He resisted the call to pick him and / or give him meaningful game time for aeons when he was in imperious form or Leicester.

Only ever really been a cameo sub. I think that's Eze's best chance.
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Best first goal?
at 17:49 21 May 2024

Didn't Tommy Langley score on his debut after 7 seconds or something? Nurse?
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End of Term Report 23/24 – Defenders
at 13:21 21 May 2024

...or lamp someone over the head with it (allegedly)
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Eze Rumours
at 13:56 20 May 2024

If it was us in Palace's position - would you be saying "hold on to them all, this is our golden chance to push on", "cash in our chips, a must do to survive - just reinvest wisely", or "sell 1, maybe 2 of the crown jewels but don't rip the team to pieces"?
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De Zerbi....
at 16:20 18 May 2024

I could very easily see Marti as BHA manager after the next one...which would at least mean he's had a good couple of years with us.
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Clive on Open all R,s.
at 16:41 13 May 2024

...and is it behind a pay wall? Just asking obo Jeff.
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JCS interview
at 17:05 10 May 2024

Not earth shattering, but worth a read:

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/jake-clarke-salter-qpr-future-marti-cifuentes-
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Aaron Drewe
at 10:42 10 May 2024

The way I've seen it work through deep involvement in grass roots kids football for 20+ years, where I've seen dozens of kids I've coached as 5-7 year olds whisked away into the academies (plus one of my own kids having two academy spells at 7-9 and 12-14):

- from age 6 (and sadly now in some extreme cases even younger), the academies hoover up as many kids as possible to 'have a look' (usually in 6 week blocks), so paranoid are they about missing a kid 'on their patch' and a rival nabbing them

- they are officially allowed to sign them at u9 (= year 4 at school), by which point dozens, maybe even hundreds, have had a little taste, but been discarded. Somewhere between 12-15 get the golden ticket. Some of those who miss out aren't discarded completely, but kept on in 'shadow squads', 'development groups' etc

- at least 50% of that initial dozen will have been discarded by 12-14, replaced by shinier new models who developed a bit later

- by 16, make that figure 80%

- by 18, when the first pro contracts are handed out, make that 95%. You've been barged out of the way by an Eze or a Chair...there's a kid in the year above or below who plays the same position but better, they're only looking for one per position across, say, a three year age band...they realistically only expect 2 or 3 per age group max to get contracts at 18, but hey, football is 11-a-side so they need to keep enough kids on til 18 to play fixtures

I'm in Nottingham, so this is based on Forest being top of the tree, Derby & Leicester sneaking in and picking up the odd Nottingham-based kid, and Notts Co, Mansfield, Burton & Lincoln sweeping up anyone that's left who's half decent. Treble that in London in terms of competition for the best players.

What cannot be stressed enough is that 2-3 year age band factor, they're only looking for one player per position across that band...and he has to be better than the 24 year old 'finished article' they can sign from the division below, Norway, Belarus, whatever.

Looked at in that light, I'd argue Drewe and Kakay have both done pretty well - especially as they actually share a position.

Forest, whatever we think of their transfer policy, haven't done badly with academy graduates over the last few years. Sold Johnson for 47 million, Cash for 28 million, Brereton for 7 million, Lascelles for 7 million, Bamford for 5 million, Osborn for one million, Darlow for 300k. Worrall a first team regular for several years and if they offload him this summer will command a decent fee, Yates a first team squad mainstay.

Put that up against our efforts over a similar period, and it's something to crow about, and arguably one of the better track records out there. However, now look at the birth years of those players:

1990 x 1 (Darlow)
1993 x 2 (Lascelles, Bamford)
1994 x 1 (Osborn)
1997 x 3 (the bumper year: Worrall, Cash, Yates)
1999 x 1 (Brereton, not signed til 16)
2001 x 1 (Johnson)

9 players over an 11 year period. I guess most on here would have been happy with Rangers producing that many / getting those fees etc...so one coming through per year on average I'd argue is a not unreasonable aspiration. Anything above and beyond that is dreamland.

Personally, I feel picking up players at the age we did with Eze, Chair, Dieng can be more lucrative.

That kid who tore everyone a new one in your u12s team is most likely in National League South at best.
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Palace put price tag on Eze
at 13:35 7 May 2024

So being called up both before and after his bad injury isn't evidence?
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Palace put price tag on Eze
at 09:47 7 May 2024

Yeh that's what I keep thinking - do Palace look to get, say, 150 mill for Olise / Eze / Guehi and say to Glasner, build a team with that?

Or is it sell one / keep one for the dynamic duo?
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Enjoy the holidays
at 11:45 6 May 2024

Bloke on the end in a suit appears to be holding his dinner.
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Friday music fred music heard around the house when you were growing up
at 19:04 3 May 2024

My mum sang this to me in the bath, also Try A Little Tenderness - but she didn't have many records, so it was years before I knew who they were by and managed to buy them...falling in love big time with both Louis Jordan and Otis Redding's catalogues.
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Friday music fred music heard around the house when you were growing up
at 19:01 3 May 2024

Haha I remember being on holiday with my Dublin-born mother in Donegal - my first 'gig', as a 6 year old, was a guy with his acoustic guitar in the hotel bar.

I absolutely lapped up the likes of Whisky in the Jar and the number below...but mum made a point of packing us little English-accented kids off to bed "when the rebel songs started".

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Good bye Unc,s
at 15:36 2 May 2024

Midweek away game at Villa Park.

Albert, then playing for the oppo, is serenaded with "Albert is a Ranger!" by the travelling...well it wasn't hordes, to be fair, but we sang it loud enough for him to turn round and beam on a couple of occasions.
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