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Venezuela 09:42 - Jan 3 with 3909 viewsDr_Winston

Trump claiming that the US has "captured" Maduro.

Hope he's right. Venezuela could be a wealthy and prosperous nation if if wasn't ruled by corrupt Socialists. Albeit it's kinda their own fault for being dumb enough to elect Chavez in the first place.

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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Venezuela on 19:26 - Jan 4 with 633 viewsAnotherJohn

Venezuela on 14:35 - Jan 4 by Gwyn737

Is trade better now?

Which national policies did the EU stop from enacting in the approaching 50 years of membership?

Of course reducing GDP isn’t a good thing, but neither is rising GDP with widening wealth inequality.


"Which national policies did the EU stop from enacting in the approaching 50 years of membership?"

Fisheries policy is one example, as illustrated by the case of R (Factortame Ltd) v Secretary of State for Transport, which highlighted the primacy of EU law over national law. The European Court of Justice ruled that the Merchant Shipping Act 1988 was contrary to Community law, which then allowed Spanish companies to sue the UK government for compensation in relation to fishing quotas and nationality of ownership of vessels. As the Act was found to be incompatible with EU law, new UK legislation (and policy) had to be introduced.
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Venezuela on 20:32 - Jan 4 with 578 viewsGwyn737

Venezuela on 19:26 - Jan 4 by AnotherJohn

"Which national policies did the EU stop from enacting in the approaching 50 years of membership?"

Fisheries policy is one example, as illustrated by the case of R (Factortame Ltd) v Secretary of State for Transport, which highlighted the primacy of EU law over national law. The European Court of Justice ruled that the Merchant Shipping Act 1988 was contrary to Community law, which then allowed Spanish companies to sue the UK government for compensation in relation to fishing quotas and nationality of ownership of vessels. As the Act was found to be incompatible with EU law, new UK legislation (and policy) had to be introduced.


And are the fishermen better off now?

Small quota improvements have been more than swallowed up by increased trade barriers for many,
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Venezuela on 21:45 - Jan 4 with 545 viewsbuilthjack

Greenland next ?

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Venezuela on 21:51 - Jan 4 with 542 viewscontroversial_jack

Venezuela on 16:22 - Jan 4 by Boundy

Finally you agree about Russia better late than never


You said that
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Venezuela on 22:12 - Jan 4 with 530 viewsBoundy

I wondered how long it would take before the great unwashed attention would focus on a country most of them had never heard of let alone be able to spell , not long.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Venezuela on 22:24 - Jan 4 with 516 viewsBoundy

Venezuela on 13:08 - Jan 4 by Gwyn737

Which examples of us being subservient to the EU for decades were you particularly concerned about? If the EU didn’t pay us much attention, why need to get out.

GDP isn’t a great measure of an individuals life experience. Yes, the headline figures look good for the States but it tempered by (compared to us) their higher crime rates, income inequality, poor overall health outcomes including higher infant mortality, vast amounts of people in jail, poor workers rights etc.

I agree with you the world is changing but, for me, isolating ourselves is not the answer. The other option is going to the states with a begging bowl and all that entails.


Isolating ourselves at the moment wouldn't be a bad idea ,whose going to protect us should it kick off in the Urals ,not our armed forces for sure ."At the end of the Cold War in 1991 the Army had 155,000 troops in four divisions, with nine armoured and four infantry brigades. In 2025 it has 75,000 troops in two divisions, with two armoured and three infantry brigades. Combat power had shrunk by more than half. ". So we either cosy up to the US (obviously much harder now the idiots in our government who thought publicly calling out Trump was good idea ,rejoin the undemocratic EU and with it an declining organisation hell bent on protecting one thing ,itself , or become an isolationist country dependent on no one but in return helped by no one.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Venezuela on 01:08 - Jan 5 with 476 viewsRobbie

Latest BBC 24 hour News reports state that Venezuela has enough crude oil to surpass Saudi Arabia in the long term .

Crude oil will be refined in the UK , Milford Haven and other places but the Don wants first hand asset stripping of that raw material .

The Don is either very dangerous or a stop the drugs input into Uncle Sam , lets sink the cartels in the water with US force .
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Venezuela on 07:31 - Jan 5 with 421 viewsDr_Winston

The US doesn't need Venezuela's oil. As per usual the Socialist thickies (and the BBC it would appear) have jumped to that conclusion. It has more than enough from its own sources to meet its needs.

It's more important to the US that China, Cuba and Russia don't have it. A US friendly Venezuela will not sell oil to any of the above (for all their own reserves, Russia has been making good money buying and reselling Venezuelan oil to fund its war in Ukraine). For all its wealth in other areas, China is oil poor. Cuba is basically screwed even more without it.

There's also the fact that Chavez stole US owned assets when he nationalised the industry, plus the fact that Venezuela's output is a fraction of what it could be because it's gone to shit since, as Communist run things invariably do.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Venezuela on 09:14 - Jan 5 with 390 viewsBoundy

Venezuela on 07:31 - Jan 5 by Dr_Winston

The US doesn't need Venezuela's oil. As per usual the Socialist thickies (and the BBC it would appear) have jumped to that conclusion. It has more than enough from its own sources to meet its needs.

It's more important to the US that China, Cuba and Russia don't have it. A US friendly Venezuela will not sell oil to any of the above (for all their own reserves, Russia has been making good money buying and reselling Venezuelan oil to fund its war in Ukraine). For all its wealth in other areas, China is oil poor. Cuba is basically screwed even more without it.

There's also the fact that Chavez stole US owned assets when he nationalised the industry, plus the fact that Venezuela's output is a fraction of what it could be because it's gone to shit since, as Communist run things invariably do.


One of the reasons that Japan declared war on the US in 1941 was because of its be expansion plans being thwarted by America with the imposition of sanctions and its lack of oil being available to feed those plans .China. Their the ones who may kick off due to this source being cut off.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Venezuela on 09:21 - Jan 5 with 392 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Venezuela on 10:14 - Jan 4 by Whiterockin

History will show that we have had a Russian Empire and a Chinese Empire but never an American, unless you call the USA an Empire.


The 13 states of the USA conquered and colonised the other 37 states so I guess that is the definition of an empire even if it is a democratic one.

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Venezuela on 09:26 - Jan 5 with 383 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Venezuela on 12:52 - Jan 4 by Dr_Winston

Our voice would be one of many and subservient to the EU Parliament. We'd have been better off boosting the Commonwealth instead of throwing our lot in with Europe.

The GDP of the EU is a third less than the US and falling. Fifteen years ago it was bigger.

We've got that already through NATO, although the Americans are understandably fed up of being taken for granted.

The US doesn't give two shits what the EU thinks about its policy. That much is obvious because of the travel bans placed on EU bigwigs who seem to be under the impression that they can tell US companies what to do. The EU never paid much attention to us anyway, except when it came time to spend our contributions on subsidising French farmers.

The game is changing. The EU is not a power. Never was. Never will be. It's the US, China, and maybe, in 30-40 years, India.


The EU parliament is actually subservient to the 28 EU commissioners and two Two EU presidents They are not elected they are appointed. The EU parliament actually does not perform any useful purpose. It cost an absolute fortune which is double what it should be as they move it several times a year between Brussels and Strasburgh

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Venezuela on 09:29 - Jan 5 with 381 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Venezuela on 18:18 - Jan 4 by builthjack

Venezuela has the world’s largest oil reserves.
Hmmmmm.


Yes and unfortunately since the left wing socialist nationalised it and Confiscated the assets of the foriegn oil companies it now produces less than half the oli it use to.

That is why Venezuela is one of the poorest countries pet capital in oputh America instead of being the richest.

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Venezuela on 09:33 - Jan 5 with 374 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Venezuela on 01:08 - Jan 5 by Robbie

Latest BBC 24 hour News reports state that Venezuela has enough crude oil to surpass Saudi Arabia in the long term .

Crude oil will be refined in the UK , Milford Haven and other places but the Don wants first hand asset stripping of that raw material .

The Don is either very dangerous or a stop the drugs input into Uncle Sam , lets sink the cartels in the water with US force .


The UK no longer has sufficient oil refinery capacity to refine our own oil let alone refine imported crude oil. We actually have to export our own crude oil, have it refined and then import it again. The world truly has gone mad.

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Venezuela on 09:44 - Jan 5 with 361 viewsBoundy

Venezuela on 09:33 - Jan 5 by felixstowe_jack

The UK no longer has sufficient oil refinery capacity to refine our own oil let alone refine imported crude oil. We actually have to export our own crude oil, have it refined and then import it again. The world truly has gone mad.


Why anyone has not brought down Milliband and his truly mad policy of net zero defies all belief.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Venezuela on 09:47 - Jan 5 with 356 viewsBoundy

Venezuela on 20:32 - Jan 4 by Gwyn737

And are the fishermen better off now?

Small quota improvements have been more than swallowed up by increased trade barriers for many,


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news

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Venezuela on 10:03 - Jan 5 with 346 viewsAnotherJohn

Venezuela on 20:32 - Jan 4 by Gwyn737

And are the fishermen better off now?

Small quota improvements have been more than swallowed up by increased trade barriers for many,


I thought the point of contention was whether EU law had ever over-ruled UK domestic law to the UK's disadvantage. The result of the ECJ judgement was that more large foreign owned boats were able to fish in the UK sector and that British-owned boats lost out, as our government realised would happen when they contested the case. So it was a case of lose rather than win, and the UK fishing industry shrank as a result of EU membership. The fisheries deal we agreed to in order to get out of the EU is a different issue.
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Venezuela on 11:51 - Jan 5 with 299 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

I see the poison dwarf Tommy Robinson is cheering on Trump and his war on drugs. Quite ironic considering he carves through more white powder than the average snowboarder.

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Venezuela on 14:13 - Jan 5 with 252 viewsGwyn737

Venezuela on 10:03 - Jan 5 by AnotherJohn

I thought the point of contention was whether EU law had ever over-ruled UK domestic law to the UK's disadvantage. The result of the ECJ judgement was that more large foreign owned boats were able to fish in the UK sector and that British-owned boats lost out, as our government realised would happen when they contested the case. So it was a case of lose rather than win, and the UK fishing industry shrank as a result of EU membership. The fisheries deal we agreed to in order to get out of the EU is a different issue.


The point of contention (for me) is that in nearly 5 decades of membership, the times we have been ruled against are comparatively small.

British boats lost out on quota but gained fristion free access to an huge market right on out doorstep.
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Venezuela on 14:16 - Jan 5 with 249 viewsGwyn737

Venezuela on 09:47 - Jan 5 by Boundy

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news


I'm not sure what that article means for fishing...

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Venezuela on 16:00 - Jan 5 with 226 viewsKeithHaynes

Venezuela on 11:51 - Jan 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

I see the poison dwarf Tommy Robinson is cheering on Trump and his war on drugs. Quite ironic considering he carves through more white powder than the average snowboarder.


Didn’t know he had any convictions for that mate.

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Venezuela on 16:13 - Jan 5 with 218 viewsAnotherJohn

Venezuela on 14:13 - Jan 5 by Gwyn737

The point of contention (for me) is that in nearly 5 decades of membership, the times we have been ruled against are comparatively small.

British boats lost out on quota but gained fristion free access to an huge market right on out doorstep.


I'm just trying to give a straightforward answer to your question (which national policies was the UK forced to change as a result of EU membership?). Factortame and the disapplication of the Merchant Shipping Act 1988 was the big case where the primacy of EU law over UK domestic law was established. However, there were other examples involving equal treatment in social security (Pickstone v Freemans PLC), workers' rights (e.g. Barber v Guardian Royal Exchange and Defrenne v SABENA), and motor insurance requirements (e.g., Delaney v Pickett). These forced the UK to amend legislation like the Equal Pay Act 1970, and various social security and pension regulations as well as the UK Motor Insurers' Bureau insurance rules, to comply with EU principles like free movement and non-discrimination. You may say some of these changes were positive rather than negative, and all I am pointing out is that there are quite a few policy areas where we were pushed in a different direction by membership
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Venezuela on 16:23 - Jan 5 with 207 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Venezuela on 16:00 - Jan 5 by KeithHaynes

Didn’t know he had any convictions for that mate.


He was convicted of possession of cocaine with intent to supply. They brought it up in an American court when he was found entering the country under a false name. There are videos of him bragging about being able to get drugs wherever he goes. “No matter where I’ve gone in the world I score... I’ve gone to f***ing Qatar, to Doha, and scored gear on the sesh while they’re all praying. Everywhere, mate, every city I’ve gone to”.

There are also several accounts from people who say he’s constantly on the stuff. He’s also spoken in podcasts about his addiction.

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Venezuela on 17:37 - Jan 5 with 179 viewsunion_jack

Something about this Venezuela situation really does not sit comfortably with me. As many on here know, I’m no bleeding heart liberal nor am I well versed in International Law but a country going into another one and kidnapping their president regardless of who he is / what he has done sets a very dangerous precedent. I can see no justification for their action though I am led to believe many Venezuelans are very happy about it.
Could they do the same with Starmer🙏😂

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Venezuela on 17:49 - Jan 5 with 173 viewsDr_Winston

Venezuela on 17:37 - Jan 5 by union_jack

Something about this Venezuela situation really does not sit comfortably with me. As many on here know, I’m no bleeding heart liberal nor am I well versed in International Law but a country going into another one and kidnapping their president regardless of who he is / what he has done sets a very dangerous precedent. I can see no justification for their action though I am led to believe many Venezuelans are very happy about it.
Could they do the same with Starmer🙏😂


I wouldn't really call it a precedent because there's probably not another Nation on Earth with the capability to pull it off. For all people have speculated about "what if China did it with Taiwan's leader", in all likelihood the simple reality is that they can't.

Besides, the US did it before with Noriega and the World just moved on.

What happens after will probably decide whether it turns out to be a net good or not. They need to help Venezuela to become the prosperous nation it once was before the Chavezists got hold of the place. Fail to do that and history won't look kindly on them.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Venezuela on 17:49 - Jan 5 with 173 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Venezuela on 17:37 - Jan 5 by union_jack

Something about this Venezuela situation really does not sit comfortably with me. As many on here know, I’m no bleeding heart liberal nor am I well versed in International Law but a country going into another one and kidnapping their president regardless of who he is / what he has done sets a very dangerous precedent. I can see no justification for their action though I am led to believe many Venezuelans are very happy about it.
Could they do the same with Starmer🙏😂


Read earlier it’s the fifth head of state the USA has captured in similar circumstances so it’s not a situation unique to Trump. Used to be commonplace in earlier European times to capture kings, dukes, high ranking nobles of course as it was lucrative to ransom them back.

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