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I believe in Miracles documentary film 2015 13:06 - Aug 17 with 830 viewsflynnbo

What a good film about Cloughie's Forest and their rise from the old second division through to winning the first division championship and then the European cup. Some lovely old archive footage (including some with us) and interviews with the players. What could have been in the 1970s when England never qualified for the 1974 and 78 World cups. We had arguably the greatest management pair in football in Clough and Taylor and the FA, in their infinite wisdom, sought to go with people like Revie-well, that one turned out well, didn't it?
It was on BT last night.
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I believe in Miracles documentary film 2015 on 13:18 - Aug 17 with 797 viewsTacticalR

Without wanting to knock Clough's incredible achievements, wasn't there a question mark over whether he could handle big name players?

We all know what happened at Leeds, and I don't think he got on with Bowles either.

But it would have been interesting to see what happened if he had got the job.

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I believe in Miracles documentary film 2015 on 13:23 - Aug 17 with 784 viewsflynnbo

I believe in Miracles documentary film 2015 on 13:18 - Aug 17 by TacticalR

Without wanting to knock Clough's incredible achievements, wasn't there a question mark over whether he could handle big name players?

We all know what happened at Leeds, and I don't think he got on with Bowles either.

But it would have been interesting to see what happened if he had got the job.


I take your point but he was lacking Taylor at Leeds and those Leeds players, brilliant as they were, were so devoted to Revie that nobody, least of all a character such as Clough, would have succeeded there, imo. Smacks of Fergie a bit.
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I believe in Miracles documentary film 2015 on 09:51 - Aug 18 with 639 viewsfrancisbowles

I believe in Miracles documentary film 2015 on 13:18 - Aug 17 by TacticalR

Without wanting to knock Clough's incredible achievements, wasn't there a question mark over whether he could handle big name players?

We all know what happened at Leeds, and I don't think he got on with Bowles either.

But it would have been interesting to see what happened if he had got the job.


Clough was definitely the boss and you had to toe his line and accept his word on everything, hence Stan's fall out with him. I think Taylor was there to be a catalyst, picking up the pieces of the shattered egos, whilst reinforcing the message in a subtle manner and building the belief.

As for big name players Colin Todd, Roy McFarland, Dave Mackay, Peter Shilton, Trevor Francis and Tony Woodcock some of those who were successful under him.
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