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They’re tweeting that their “matchday operations” are being restricted for the home game against Barrow on Sunday for reasons that they don’t want to divulge at the moment. The bottom line is that the crowd capacity is limited to 920 and there will be no cash admissions on the day. Wonder what that’s all about?
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Hornets on Sunday on 15:56 - Jun 4 with 3810 views
The money £8-900K is probably coming from S106 funding which is charged when builders of new properties do not want to pay for leisure and recreation facilities. it runs a the better part of £4,000 per new house, so a couple of hundred new houses in Balderstone would put that very precise figure into the S106 pot. Rochdale Council is very good at using these pots of money for projects that do not quite seem to fulfil the original purpose of the money. The Gracie Fields Theatre was built using money allocated to the building of Oulder Hill School, the plan to use it as a community theatre worked OK until the school got embroiled in a PFI deal which effectively took the facilities out of the hands of the school and into the grasping paws of a facilities Management company. the Facilities Management company then priced local amateur users out of using it. has anyone been to a performance there since about 2018?
There is only one result when politicians get involved and my guess is Hornets will not benefit from their "help".
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Hornets on Sunday on 15:58 - Jun 4 with 3809 views
"The consortium have made it clear from the outset that there are no plans to move Rochdale Hornets to Manchester, and agreements are in place to formally safeguard the name and location of the club.
“Conversations with the consortium have been taking place for a couple of weeks, and include plans to invest in the first two years, and restructure the club to take it forward beyond what will be an uncertain time for the whole sport at the end of the current TV deal in 2021. Overall, they have presented a five-year plan for development that will make the club sustainable over the long-term.
2022 is year 3 of the 5 year plan. So:
1) Where is this heralded and promised "investment"? The accounts to November 2021 show just £100 of share capital in a newly incorporated company which was founded in June 2020. A director then chose to write off a £143k loan. The company books show no director loans or investment into the company other than the season ticket monies.
2) Why are Rochdale Hornets trying to move from Spotland to Balderstone with changing rooms paid for by the Council in return for a bit of free kit? And why are they stealing players from Rochdale Mayfield to form a new side?
3) What financial shape are Rochdale Hornets REALLY when only midway through the current season? Has the money really run out given the terrible gates compared to the high costs of Dad's Army players.
The Ob reported at the time that A total of 136 members - 69% of the total membership - all voted to back the move, with no opposition.
I don't believe in 2019 that a secret move to Balderstone was mooted at that point to the members OR the "restriction of matchday operations" with everyone sitting together OR the lack of tickets for community initiatives OR the deliberate scheduling of rugby league on a Saturday afternoon was presented to members.
Fat Pat is remaining vigilant as she does when she sees out of towners floating around Spotland but what is clear is that it's suddenly unravelling quicker than an Alexander Jarvis alibi.
When RochdaleGlory gets back from Blackpool perhaps he can enlighten us!
He’s been back for at least a few days now. Knowsley safari park had the pleasure of his lovely company the other day.
And even that place isn’t as full of shite as he is.
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Hornets on Sunday on 16:10 - Jun 4 with 3772 views
The money £8-900K is probably coming from S106 funding which is charged when builders of new properties do not want to pay for leisure and recreation facilities. it runs a the better part of £4,000 per new house, so a couple of hundred new houses in Balderstone would put that very precise figure into the S106 pot. Rochdale Council is very good at using these pots of money for projects that do not quite seem to fulfil the original purpose of the money. The Gracie Fields Theatre was built using money allocated to the building of Oulder Hill School, the plan to use it as a community theatre worked OK until the school got embroiled in a PFI deal which effectively took the facilities out of the hands of the school and into the grasping paws of a facilities Management company. the Facilities Management company then priced local amateur users out of using it. has anyone been to a performance there since about 2018?
There is only one result when politicians get involved and my guess is Hornets will not benefit from their "help".
4.4 Cabinet (25th September 2018) has previously allocated £740,000 of Section 106 formal sport resources to the development of changing rooms and a community room as an extension to Balderstone Library and reinstatement of two football pitches within Balderstone Park.
4.5 The changing rooms and community room extension have been tendered and the work awarded, however revised estimates for the reinstatement of the pitches bring the cost of works above the original estimate.
4.6 Officers have been asked to identify further Section 106 contributions that could support the project. Formal Sport contributions of £54,473 have been identified associated with the development of homes at Kingsway. The ward members for Balderstone and Kirkholt and Kingsway support the use of these contributions to support the project
Hidden in plain sight.
Here's the opening of the library - two local councillors front and centre:
Here's one of the local councillors with his mate Andy Mazey.
Brilliant opening to the 2022 #RugbyLeague season as @RochdaleHornets knock Midlands Hurricanes out of the Challenge Cup 36-16. An amazing afternoon of rugby, my Son holding this famous trophy with @andy_mazey 🏆 & tales from @mrgreg7 on what it takes to win this cup at Wembley! pic.twitter.com/3tg3AIb49L
In the minutes the allocation was for £740,000 and the headline is that it has cost £1m.
Wonder if Massey / Mazey are hoping to extend any more council tax payers funds outwardly for the benefit of the two sports pitches identified in the same council minutes in a white elephant project?
In the words of the council 4.6 "The ward members for Balderstone and Kirkholt and Kingsway support the use of these contributions to support the project"
I bet they do!
George Bernard Shaw had it right:
"He who can does; he who cannot, teaches."
https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
Looking again at those filed accounts it records the average number of employees to be 13. You need more than that to field a team (13 starters plus 4 subs)
43 different players made 1 or more appearances during the 2021 season.
Do they not employ their players? I suppose it would save on national insurance contributions.
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Hornets on Sunday on 11:22 - Jun 5 with 3370 views
4.4 Cabinet (25th September 2018) has previously allocated £740,000 of Section 106 formal sport resources to the development of changing rooms and a community room as an extension to Balderstone Library and reinstatement of two football pitches within Balderstone Park.
4.5 The changing rooms and community room extension have been tendered and the work awarded, however revised estimates for the reinstatement of the pitches bring the cost of works above the original estimate.
4.6 Officers have been asked to identify further Section 106 contributions that could support the project. Formal Sport contributions of £54,473 have been identified associated with the development of homes at Kingsway. The ward members for Balderstone and Kirkholt and Kingsway support the use of these contributions to support the project
Hidden in plain sight.
Here's the opening of the library - two local councillors front and centre:
Here's one of the local councillors with his mate Andy Mazey.
Brilliant opening to the 2022 #RugbyLeague season as @RochdaleHornets knock Midlands Hurricanes out of the Challenge Cup 36-16. An amazing afternoon of rugby, my Son holding this famous trophy with @andy_mazey 🏆 & tales from @mrgreg7 on what it takes to win this cup at Wembley! pic.twitter.com/3tg3AIb49L
In the minutes the allocation was for £740,000 and the headline is that it has cost £1m.
Wonder if Massey / Mazey are hoping to extend any more council tax payers funds outwardly for the benefit of the two sports pitches identified in the same council minutes in a white elephant project?
In the words of the council 4.6 "The ward members for Balderstone and Kirkholt and Kingsway support the use of these contributions to support the project"
I bet they do!
"Officers have been asked to identify further Section 106 contributions that could support the project". It is my understanding that S106 should be allocated into the locale near to where the new buildings will impact on local facilities. Scrounging S106 money from around the borough for the benefit of Balderstone / Kirkholt is somewhat outside the spirit of the intended purpose of S106 money as inevitably other areas will suffer. To the best of my knowledge, Springfield Park was promised the better part of £100k from a development near the park gates (site of the old High Birch school), apparently the council has decided that they will now not charge this particular development any S106 in an attempt to make sure the development goes ahead. Time for a FOI request for details of how and where the S106 money is charged and spent.
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Hornets on Sunday on 11:56 - Jun 5 with 3325 views
Looking again at those filed accounts it records the average number of employees to be 13. You need more than that to field a team (13 starters plus 4 subs)
43 different players made 1 or more appearances during the 2021 season.
Do they not employ their players? I suppose it would save on national insurance contributions.
I'm far from an expert on how these things work, but Hornets have been open recently to say that the wages of these big name signings are subsidised / paid for by generous benefactors / sponsors.
Is there a chance that these players are either on the books of (or contracting for) the sponsors rather than the club?
IF that is the case, is it all within RL rules?
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Hornets on Sunday on 13:35 - Jun 5 with 3204 views
The only thing that I care about is any potential adverse effects on the Dale if the rugby club were to leave Spotand. Can the Dale approach the RL to offer to stage games without involvement from the rugby club ? How much income do we get from the rugby, rent etc, can that be made up by other means if the rugby club didn't play at Spotland? Do we actually make a profit from them being there ? I only see the rugby club as income for the Dale, but if we don't make money out of them then I am not arsed about them playing at Spotland.
I'm far from an expert on how these things work, but Hornets have been open recently to say that the wages of these big name signings are subsidised / paid for by generous benefactors / sponsors.
Is there a chance that these players are either on the books of (or contracting for) the sponsors rather than the club?
IF that is the case, is it all within RL rules?
Careful, dimwit ‘The Hornet’ will have you for “liable” (sic).
“The Dale supporters are obssed with Rochdale Hornets”
Now, far be it from me to add to the stereotype that rugger fans are a bit dim, but can any of them manage a full post without spelling mistakes a five year old wouldn’t make?
May I remind him this thread was started by a rugby fan and then heavily featured posts from the Hornets chairman before he ran away with his tail between his legs after being sussed? If I’m wrong then he can sue me if he likes.
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Hornets on Sunday (n/t) on 14:35 - Jun 5 with 3109 views
Careful, dimwit ‘The Hornet’ will have you for “liable” (sic).
Ta.
Its not an accusation on my part at all of any wrongdoing - I remember thinking at the time that it was a good way of getting sponsorship / benefactor money directly into the playing squad.
I suppose the question around if its within RL rules leads to a bigger question about if we'd ever want to see a similar scheme in football... or if it would even be possible.
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Hornets on Sunday on 15:23 - Jun 5 with 3034 views
Looking again at those filed accounts it records the average number of employees to be 13. You need more than that to field a team (13 starters plus 4 subs)
43 different players made 1 or more appearances during the 2021 season.
Do they not employ their players? I suppose it would save on national insurance contributions.
Pretty sure that the concept of Employers National Insurance lends itself to the RFL's rulebook......
Gone are the days where you can pay players in cash or have them employed Monday to Friday as the teaboy for your electrical contracting company with a bit of rugby thrown in at the weekend on the side.
The number of employees by Hornets quoted might just be a function of when in the year the data was reported and remember that 2020 and 2021 was heavily influenced by Covid-19.
Since 2016 Rochdale Hornets haven't carried any of the costs of all of the stadium staff who will are employees of the stadium company. Denehurst Park (Rochdale) Limited.
Denehurst stated it had 25 employees in the last published accounts of that company which is probably quite a lot of the groundstaff, bar staff etc that work on/at the stadium.
George Bernard Shaw had it right:
"He who can does; he who cannot, teaches."
https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
Pretty sure that the concept of Employers National Insurance lends itself to the RFL's rulebook......
Gone are the days where you can pay players in cash or have them employed Monday to Friday as the teaboy for your electrical contracting company with a bit of rugby thrown in at the weekend on the side.
The number of employees by Hornets quoted might just be a function of when in the year the data was reported and remember that 2020 and 2021 was heavily influenced by Covid-19.
Since 2016 Rochdale Hornets haven't carried any of the costs of all of the stadium staff who will are employees of the stadium company. Denehurst Park (Rochdale) Limited.
Denehurst stated it had 25 employees in the last published accounts of that company which is probably quite a lot of the groundstaff, bar staff etc that work on/at the stadium.
It is relatively affordable for Hornets to play at Spotland. Based on previous comments about game fees paid by Hornets to the stadium company, they will be paying barely £50,000 to occupy Spotland each season. That gives them a decent stadium at this level, a decent pitch, good hospitality facilities and offices and a shop. If they had their own stadium like Barrow for example, they would be paying three times that to just pay for stadium staff and utility costs etc.
The Hornets chairman will know he has a good deal, and in his 5 year plan he was prepared to pump cash in to help the club with their ambition. Reading between the lines, Dale are playing hard ball and asking Hornets to pay more if they want more than the basic arrangments in the lease. It doesn't seem like he is prepared to put his cash in to do that. Meanwhile the attendance shrinks and the downward spiral becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I have family who have been going 70 years and have now stopped. "Its not the same" apparently.
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Hornets on Sunday on 20:33 - Jun 5 with 2753 views
It is relatively affordable for Hornets to play at Spotland. Based on previous comments about game fees paid by Hornets to the stadium company, they will be paying barely £50,000 to occupy Spotland each season. That gives them a decent stadium at this level, a decent pitch, good hospitality facilities and offices and a shop. If they had their own stadium like Barrow for example, they would be paying three times that to just pay for stadium staff and utility costs etc.
The Hornets chairman will know he has a good deal, and in his 5 year plan he was prepared to pump cash in to help the club with their ambition. Reading between the lines, Dale are playing hard ball and asking Hornets to pay more if they want more than the basic arrangments in the lease. It doesn't seem like he is prepared to put his cash in to do that. Meanwhile the attendance shrinks and the downward spiral becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I have family who have been going 70 years and have now stopped. "Its not the same" apparently.
I am in agreement with you that the football club are working to the letter of the agreement and that under the previous regime, the football club was funding rugby match day operations, to what degree I am unsure.
If they are paying £50k pa then that's more than I thought, given the fury former directors vented on Chris Dunphy when details.of the deal were disclosed.
It is relatively affordable for Hornets to play at Spotland. Based on previous comments about game fees paid by Hornets to the stadium company, they will be paying barely £50,000 to occupy Spotland each season. That gives them a decent stadium at this level, a decent pitch, good hospitality facilities and offices and a shop. If they had their own stadium like Barrow for example, they would be paying three times that to just pay for stadium staff and utility costs etc.
The Hornets chairman will know he has a good deal, and in his 5 year plan he was prepared to pump cash in to help the club with their ambition. Reading between the lines, Dale are playing hard ball and asking Hornets to pay more if they want more than the basic arrangments in the lease. It doesn't seem like he is prepared to put his cash in to do that. Meanwhile the attendance shrinks and the downward spiral becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I have family who have been going 70 years and have now stopped. "Its not the same" apparently.
The last line of your post is the killer for me Dalenet "It's not the same"
When longstanding loyal Hornets fans are packing it in going that tells you a lot - and they've had a lot of sh*te to put up with over the years so they should know.
I honestly don't think that I've seen as little promotion of rugby league in Rochdale in my lifetime OR the desire to promote it.
No exaggeration to say this is likely the biggest commercial deal outside of Super League. Fantastic work @stevekerr01 and our @RochdaleHornets commercial team. Thank you to our friends at Premier KIA for buying into the vision and becoming the clubs Principle Partner 💪🐝 https://t.co/lXoEcV3ue2
Your man Mazey says in that tweet very clearly: "No exaggeration to say this is likely the biggest commercial deal outside of Super League."
December 1st 2021.
Since then: * Whinging of "disruption" emanating from various quarters. * Openly advertising a maximum capacity of 920 vs dwindling crowds - less than 360 at their last two home games - less than half full. * Plans afoot to move to to a park pitch in Balderstone, paid for by the Council * Poaching of local players from Rochdale Mayfield for an undefined new amateur team where Hornets are providing the kit. * No home games until late July. * Home games moved from Sunday to Saturday at bizarre kick off times. * Down to 4th in a league of 11 where the bottom 3 teams aren't credible. * Hornets now 80% owned by out-of-town shareholders
From the outside it looks at best like incompetent mismanagement over the last six months or at worst a can't be arsed attitude of not putting money in and hoping for the best and seeing if parties like Premier Kia will fund it for them.
You'd have thought that Mazey would throw a few quid at least advertising around the town to get the gates up. Nothing on social media or Facebook to even suggest they play!
It's bizarre that the club with the "biggest commercial deal outside of Super League" is struggling to pack 'em in.
At least the Swinton Lions fans are looking forward to next week and seeing Mazey's Range Rover again......
George Bernard Shaw had it right:
"He who can does; he who cannot, teaches."
https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
The last line of your post is the killer for me Dalenet "It's not the same"
When longstanding loyal Hornets fans are packing it in going that tells you a lot - and they've had a lot of sh*te to put up with over the years so they should know.
I honestly don't think that I've seen as little promotion of rugby league in Rochdale in my lifetime OR the desire to promote it.
No exaggeration to say this is likely the biggest commercial deal outside of Super League. Fantastic work @stevekerr01 and our @RochdaleHornets commercial team. Thank you to our friends at Premier KIA for buying into the vision and becoming the clubs Principle Partner 💪🐝 https://t.co/lXoEcV3ue2
Your man Mazey says in that tweet very clearly: "No exaggeration to say this is likely the biggest commercial deal outside of Super League."
December 1st 2021.
Since then: * Whinging of "disruption" emanating from various quarters. * Openly advertising a maximum capacity of 920 vs dwindling crowds - less than 360 at their last two home games - less than half full. * Plans afoot to move to to a park pitch in Balderstone, paid for by the Council * Poaching of local players from Rochdale Mayfield for an undefined new amateur team where Hornets are providing the kit. * No home games until late July. * Home games moved from Sunday to Saturday at bizarre kick off times. * Down to 4th in a league of 11 where the bottom 3 teams aren't credible. * Hornets now 80% owned by out-of-town shareholders
From the outside it looks at best like incompetent mismanagement over the last six months or at worst a can't be arsed attitude of not putting money in and hoping for the best and seeing if parties like Premier Kia will fund it for them.
You'd have thought that Mazey would throw a few quid at least advertising around the town to get the gates up. Nothing on social media or Facebook to even suggest they play!
It's bizarre that the club with the "biggest commercial deal outside of Super League" is struggling to pack 'em in.
At least the Swinton Lions fans are looking forward to next week and seeing Mazey's Range Rover again......
Aye. And at least Hornets may play in front of a 4 figure crowd at Swinton. Still hard to understand how Hornets are down to 300 or so fans - and remember most will be season ticket holders. So very little revenue raised from a match day now.
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Hornets on Sunday on 21:10 - Jun 5 with 2711 views
I am in agreement with you that the football club are working to the letter of the agreement and that under the previous regime, the football club was funding rugby match day operations, to what degree I am unsure.
If they are paying £50k pa then that's more than I thought, given the fury former directors vented on Chris Dunphy when details.of the deal were disclosed.
It can't be anywhere near that number based on the recent Rochdale Hornets accounts.
The last Hornets accounts were for a seventeen and a half month period from 15th June 2020 to 30th November 2021.
The profit for that period was £177,180 but that was flattered by a creditor write off of £143,692 which is stated as "credited to the profit and loss account"
That means the trading profit for the 17 and a half month period was £33,488.
A £50,000 per annum rental would be approximately £75,000 of cost for that near eighteen month period which would need to be deducted before any profit was declared.
I doubt Hornets have £75,000 of ticket sales in that 18 month period based on their attendances which on say 500 at £10 per game would be circa £55,000 for the season.
George Bernard Shaw had it right:
"He who can does; he who cannot, teaches."
https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
It is relatively affordable for Hornets to play at Spotland. Based on previous comments about game fees paid by Hornets to the stadium company, they will be paying barely £50,000 to occupy Spotland each season. That gives them a decent stadium at this level, a decent pitch, good hospitality facilities and offices and a shop. If they had their own stadium like Barrow for example, they would be paying three times that to just pay for stadium staff and utility costs etc.
The Hornets chairman will know he has a good deal, and in his 5 year plan he was prepared to pump cash in to help the club with their ambition. Reading between the lines, Dale are playing hard ball and asking Hornets to pay more if they want more than the basic arrangments in the lease. It doesn't seem like he is prepared to put his cash in to do that. Meanwhile the attendance shrinks and the downward spiral becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I have family who have been going 70 years and have now stopped. "Its not the same" apparently.
I’d be gobsmacked if they are paying anywhere near 50k to play at Spotland Don’t forget when the deal was done ‘old hornets’ didnt have a pot to pee in. £1000 to £1500 a game plus expenses imo would have been a sensible number. Thats somewhere between 10k and 15k a year plus any ex’s. The rental is bugger all. The main expenses are Players/Manager plus coaching staff/Steve Kerr, plus stewards/other match day overheads. If they cut their cloth accordingly then it should all be affordable. It may be that ‘New Hornets’ are just like the old and overspending.The football club has lived within it’s means (un)successfully for 115 years. Dale might not have a cabinet full of trophies but we have a Club full of integrity
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Hornets on Sunday on 19:35 - Jun 9 with 1979 views
Well we have now had 26 pages on the Football Clubs Fans Forum re Hornets On Sunday. It's interesting that all these clever individuals who have delved into the hostile takeover (And a very good job they did) still have not identified why Hornets can only have 970 fans per home game. Come on guys. As that lady at Norwich City said "Let's be having you"
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Hornets on Sunday on 19:53 - Jun 9 with 1921 views
Well we have now had 26 pages on the Football Clubs Fans Forum re Hornets On Sunday. It's interesting that all these clever individuals who have delved into the hostile takeover (And a very good job they did) still have not identified why Hornets can only have 970 fans per home game. Come on guys. As that lady at Norwich City said "Let's be having you"
That's more than double what they need, so what's the problem?
A lot of these 26 pages are taken up by Hornets fans (ironically, you've just added to it), Hornets sympathisers among the Dale fanbase and Dale fans who have a vested interest in how all of this affects "The AFC", so what's your point?
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When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
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Hornets on Sunday on 19:57 - Jun 9 with 1912 views
Well we have now had 26 pages on the Football Clubs Fans Forum re Hornets On Sunday. It's interesting that all these clever individuals who have delved into the hostile takeover (And a very good job they did) still have not identified why Hornets can only have 970 fans per home game. Come on guys. As that lady at Norwich City said "Let's be having you"
According to Rochdale Hornets its only 920 allowed in Doug. Not sure where you are getting 970 from.
Regardless, from declared attendances on Rugby League records, its more than double the usual crowd and therefore plenty of room. When you are only getting 354 at home everyone can have two seats!
The "restriction" appears to be nothing more than the (complete lack of) marketing efforts of Hornets and a general apathy for rugby league in general compared to more popular sports like football or cricket.
In the words of Mazey "you can sometimes lead the horse to water but that doesn't mean that it wants a drink"
George Bernard Shaw had it right:
"He who can does; he who cannot, teaches."
https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
Well we have now had 26 pages on the Football Clubs Fans Forum re Hornets On Sunday. It's interesting that all these clever individuals who have delved into the hostile takeover (And a very good job they did) still have not identified why Hornets can only have 970 fans per home game. Come on guys. As that lady at Norwich City said "Let's be having you"
Why don’t you educate us BIG Doug? I’m guessing you won’t know as you’re just another rugger gobshite who knows nowt.
Over to you.
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Hornets on Sunday on 20:15 - Jun 9 with 1836 views
According to Rochdale Hornets its only 920 allowed in Doug. Not sure where you are getting 970 from.
Regardless, from declared attendances on Rugby League records, its more than double the usual crowd and therefore plenty of room. When you are only getting 354 at home everyone can have two seats!
The "restriction" appears to be nothing more than the (complete lack of) marketing efforts of Hornets and a general apathy for rugby league in general compared to more popular sports like football or cricket.
In the words of Mazey "you can sometimes lead the horse to water but that doesn't mean that it wants a drink"
I knew I’d seen that somewhere before…
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Hornets on Sunday on 20:29 - Jun 9 with 1797 views
According to Rochdale Hornets its only 920 allowed in Doug. Not sure where you are getting 970 from.
Regardless, from declared attendances on Rugby League records, its more than double the usual crowd and therefore plenty of room. When you are only getting 354 at home everyone can have two seats!
The "restriction" appears to be nothing more than the (complete lack of) marketing efforts of Hornets and a general apathy for rugby league in general compared to more popular sports like football or cricket.
In the words of Mazey "you can sometimes lead the horse to water but that doesn't mean that it wants a drink"
Oh, it says DOCKHOUSE. Misread it at first.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
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Hornets on Sunday on 20:40 - Jun 9 with 1759 views
It's worth listening to Mazey's views on that as he says what a brilliant stadium the football club has:
12.47 said by Andy Mazey: "When I talk about the building blocks, just as examples really, the stadium is Super League standard at Rochdale, its a football club so it ticks all the boxes for Super League rugby. The training base that we have at Hopwood Hall is what Toronto Wolfpack were using before they went out of existence and the England National Team have trained there so it is a top, top class facility. We have a Cat 3 Rugby League academy based there and our Head Coach Matt Calland coaches the academy."
Mazey openly states - that Spotland is "Super League standard".
So I guess the question for Doug is - why can't Mazey's commercial marketing efforts fill it?
354 is p*ss poor by anyone's standards.
We own Spotland now mortgage free so every penny that goes into it goes into our playing squad so we'd love to see 8,000+ very thirsty Rugby League fans every game!
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George Bernard Shaw had it right:
"He who can does; he who cannot, teaches."
https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
It's worth listening to Mazey's views on that as he says what a brilliant stadium the football club has:
12.47 said by Andy Mazey: "When I talk about the building blocks, just as examples really, the stadium is Super League standard at Rochdale, its a football club so it ticks all the boxes for Super League rugby. The training base that we have at Hopwood Hall is what Toronto Wolfpack were using before they went out of existence and the England National Team have trained there so it is a top, top class facility. We have a Cat 3 Rugby League academy based there and our Head Coach Matt Calland coaches the academy."
Mazey openly states - that Spotland is "Super League standard".
So I guess the question for Doug is - why can't Mazey's commercial marketing efforts fill it?
354 is p*ss poor by anyone's standards.
We own Spotland now mortgage free so every penny that goes into it goes into our playing squad so we'd love to see 8,000+ very thirsty Rugby League fans every game!
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