| Hornets on Sunday 19:31 - Feb 24 with 262045 views | EllDale |
They’re tweeting that their “matchday operations” are being restricted for the home game against Barrow on Sunday for reasons that they don’t want to divulge at the moment.
The bottom line is that the crowd capacity is limited to 920 and there will be no cash admissions on the day.
Wonder what that’s all about? |  | | |  |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:33 - Jun 12 with 3444 views | kel |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:29 - Jun 12 by TyroneShoelaces |
I’m the same re Hornets. My dad was a big RL fan back in the day.
Think the dislike is for Mazey and how he conducts himself both
with (apparently) his dealings with Dale and certainly his high
opinion of himself on social media |
A little birdie tells me our Andy has been asking people about me 🤣
Bless him. |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:29 - Jun 12 with 3304 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:33 - Jun 12 by kel |
A little birdie tells me our Andy has been asking people about me 🤣
Bless him. |
You might want to protect your tweets. |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 19:32 - Jun 12 with 3299 views | kel |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:29 - Jun 12 by RAFCBLUE |
You might want to protect your tweets. |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 19:35 - Jun 12 with 3286 views | kel |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:29 - Jun 12 by TyroneShoelaces |
I’m the same re Hornets. My dad was a big RL fan back in the day.
Think the dislike is for Mazey and how he conducts himself both
with (apparently) his dealings with Dale and certainly his high
opinion of himself on social media |
He certainly does. What kind of chairman stands with the coaching team at the dugout whilst a game is taking place and doesn’t think it’s a bit odd? Even Stewie wasn’t that bad and he loved his picture being taken more than most. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:44 - Jun 12 with 3271 views | HullDale |
I was chatting to a Hornets supporting acquaintance this afternoon, and his view was that there is a growing 'what if' feeling amongst some of the older Hornets fanbase.
What if... all of these expensive loans are part of a shit or bust strategy? If they are promoted this year its fine, if they are not - what happens?
What if... Mazey & co choose to walk away if they don't go up this year? a £20 buy in to the board, plus potentially tax deductable payments for expensive signings, wouldn't be hard to walk away from?
What if... there is a plan to rebrand the club on the sly? Hornets to bees isn't a huge step, & Andy has been liking 'fan art' from the 'barmy army' which shows positive Hornets sentiment in a black, yellow and white striped colour scheme.
What if... there is truth in the rumour that the 'non public commenting' about issues with the Spotland tenancy is part of a wider plan to set the scene for a move away from the COA?
there were a few more points he raised, but they were the most poignant ones based on similarities to this thread. it sounds like there is a growing disconnect between the older fans of Hornets and this new co - that could explain the dwindling attendances too. away from the public bluster of the Mazey persona, you have to question if its all getting a bit tense now. [Post edited 12 Jun 2022 19:45]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 19:48 - Jun 12 with 3263 views | HullDale |
'... now we could go traditional but..."
liked by Mazey & Kerr, commented on and shared by Mazey. | | | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 19:53 - Jun 12 with 3241 views | kel |
Well BIGDoug is logged in so perhaps he can give another perspective on it.
Or he’ll probably just dodge it like he does whenever he gets asked a question. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 20:00 - Jun 12 with 3211 views | EllDale |
I’d be a bit suspicious of any new logo featuring something looking like a bee given that insect’s emotional connection to the city of Manchester these days. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 20:24 - Jun 12 with 3162 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:48 - Jun 12 by HullDale |
'... now we could go traditional but..."
liked by Mazey & Kerr, commented on and shared by Mazey. |
Note the absence of any mention of Rochdale in the ‘artwork’.
Rob and Caz obviously know how to please Mazey and his cronies.
We have been there before….the cooperative ownership tried to drop the town from the club name but the rest of the world wansnt fooled and Rochdale Hornets remained. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 20:30 - Jun 12 with 3151 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:44 - Jun 12 by HullDale |
I was chatting to a Hornets supporting acquaintance this afternoon, and his view was that there is a growing 'what if' feeling amongst some of the older Hornets fanbase.
What if... all of these expensive loans are part of a shit or bust strategy? If they are promoted this year its fine, if they are not - what happens?
What if... Mazey & co choose to walk away if they don't go up this year? a £20 buy in to the board, plus potentially tax deductable payments for expensive signings, wouldn't be hard to walk away from?
What if... there is a plan to rebrand the club on the sly? Hornets to bees isn't a huge step, & Andy has been liking 'fan art' from the 'barmy army' which shows positive Hornets sentiment in a black, yellow and white striped colour scheme.
What if... there is truth in the rumour that the 'non public commenting' about issues with the Spotland tenancy is part of a wider plan to set the scene for a move away from the COA?
there were a few more points he raised, but they were the most poignant ones based on similarities to this thread. it sounds like there is a growing disconnect between the older fans of Hornets and this new co - that could explain the dwindling attendances too. away from the public bluster of the Mazey persona, you have to question if its all getting a bit tense now. [Post edited 12 Jun 2022 19:45]
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Mazey is all in here.
He failed at Leigh and was drummed out.... He failed at Swinton and was drummed out....
Where does Andy Mazey go if he fails with Rochdale Hornets? A freely acquired club with, in his own words, a ground fit for Super League.
As he said himself, the target audience is 200,000.
What price (North) Manchester Hornets or (North) Manchester Bees playing at Spotland in 2023? And the narrative will be "We can't carry on as Rochdale Hornets..."
Let's just wait and see.
The new logos look very much like the worker bee of Manchester brought to the fore after the Manchester Arena bombing in 2017. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 21:11 - Jun 12 with 3070 views | D_Alien |
Where are the Rochdale Hornets fans who should be fighting the nonsense that's coming from the current regime?
They've either deserted the club or they're blowing smoke up Mazey's rectum
You'd think with the events at Dale over the past 12-15 months, there'd be a bit more than a few murmurings of discontent. Expect quite a few are throwing their arms up in the air with a "what can we do?" attitude
We've shown them what can be done, but then we're only the AFC and god forbid they take their cues from Dale fans. Instead, they treat our warnings with disdain. They're bloody fools; it's becoming perfectly clear where all this is going
I remain a fan of Rochdale Hornets (albeit at a distance these days) but i wish the club and team nothing but well. It belongs to our town and its sporting history. Take the "Rochdale" away and they can go f*ck themselves |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 22:23 - Jun 12 with 2946 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:11 - Jun 12 by D_Alien |
Where are the Rochdale Hornets fans who should be fighting the nonsense that's coming from the current regime?
They've either deserted the club or they're blowing smoke up Mazey's rectum
You'd think with the events at Dale over the past 12-15 months, there'd be a bit more than a few murmurings of discontent. Expect quite a few are throwing their arms up in the air with a "what can we do?" attitude
We've shown them what can be done, but then we're only the AFC and god forbid they take their cues from Dale fans. Instead, they treat our warnings with disdain. They're bloody fools; it's becoming perfectly clear where all this is going
I remain a fan of Rochdale Hornets (albeit at a distance these days) but i wish the club and team nothing but well. It belongs to our town and its sporting history. Take the "Rochdale" away and they can go f*ck themselves |
Sadly they have no power. Dale were saved from oblivion by the shareholders. There are no shareholding Hornets fans. mazey and his mates bought the club for 20 quid each and hold all the shares. Even el presidente in London ‘bought’ into the deal, | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:46 - Jun 12 with 2897 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:11 - Jun 12 by D_Alien |
Where are the Rochdale Hornets fans who should be fighting the nonsense that's coming from the current regime?
They've either deserted the club or they're blowing smoke up Mazey's rectum
You'd think with the events at Dale over the past 12-15 months, there'd be a bit more than a few murmurings of discontent. Expect quite a few are throwing their arms up in the air with a "what can we do?" attitude
We've shown them what can be done, but then we're only the AFC and god forbid they take their cues from Dale fans. Instead, they treat our warnings with disdain. They're bloody fools; it's becoming perfectly clear where all this is going
I remain a fan of Rochdale Hornets (albeit at a distance these days) but i wish the club and team nothing but well. It belongs to our town and its sporting history. Take the "Rochdale" away and they can go f*ck themselves |
Very obviously DA, it is controlled decline.
We witnessed a controlled relegation in 2021 before the events of last Summer. Weaken the club, tee it up for the main plan and then walk away.
If you are standing in the dugout at Swinton as the Chairman, it is suddenly obvious who picks the team, who is behind all of the decisions and who is leading the decline.
If you look online tonight:
* There is nothing from the media of the club on the game
* There is nothing on the internet in any way shape or form reporting the game.
* The observations from Hornets fans on their forums is that a rat is being smelt and questions around injuries and signings are being asked.
* A number of the Hornets squad were at Rochdale Mayfield yesterday - and approachable and open with fans.
* "The Hornet" is conspicuous by their absence.
It's all well and good being in the changing room banging the drum when Hornets win, but Big Doug had it right quoting Delia:
"Where are you? Let's be having you! | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 23:02 - Jun 12 with 2872 views | TyroneShoelaces |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:46 - Jun 12 by RAFCBLUE |
Very obviously DA, it is controlled decline.
We witnessed a controlled relegation in 2021 before the events of last Summer. Weaken the club, tee it up for the main plan and then walk away.
If you are standing in the dugout at Swinton as the Chairman, it is suddenly obvious who picks the team, who is behind all of the decisions and who is leading the decline.
If you look online tonight:
* There is nothing from the media of the club on the game
* There is nothing on the internet in any way shape or form reporting the game.
* The observations from Hornets fans on their forums is that a rat is being smelt and questions around injuries and signings are being asked.
* A number of the Hornets squad were at Rochdale Mayfield yesterday - and approachable and open with fans.
* "The Hornet" is conspicuous by their absence.
It's all well and good being in the changing room banging the drum when Hornets win, but Big Doug had it right quoting Delia:
"Where are you? Let's be having you! |
A friend of mine was at Mayfield yesterday and when i asked why ?
He said that “it is a real club like Hornets used fo be “. That says a lot to me | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 23:04 - Jun 12 with 2868 views | downunder |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:48 - Jun 12 by HullDale |
'... now we could go traditional but..."
liked by Mazey & Kerr, commented on and shared by Mazey. |
I like it...especially how it shows the prick front and centre! [Post edited 12 Jun 2022 23:09]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 23:11 - Jun 12 with 2849 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:46 - Jun 12 by RAFCBLUE |
Very obviously DA, it is controlled decline.
We witnessed a controlled relegation in 2021 before the events of last Summer. Weaken the club, tee it up for the main plan and then walk away.
If you are standing in the dugout at Swinton as the Chairman, it is suddenly obvious who picks the team, who is behind all of the decisions and who is leading the decline.
If you look online tonight:
* There is nothing from the media of the club on the game
* There is nothing on the internet in any way shape or form reporting the game.
* The observations from Hornets fans on their forums is that a rat is being smelt and questions around injuries and signings are being asked.
* A number of the Hornets squad were at Rochdale Mayfield yesterday - and approachable and open with fans.
* "The Hornet" is conspicuous by their absence.
It's all well and good being in the changing room banging the drum when Hornets win, but Big Doug had it right quoting Delia:
"Where are you? Let's be having you! |
To be fair there is a full match report on the Hornets website. These reports may be produced 'centrally' because they tend to appear on both clubs website around the same time - though I havent checked Swinton's site. Also they dont tend to be full of 'tub thumping' and present a reasonably balanced report of the game.
It will be more than tragic if Mazey not only takes Hornets down, but takes mayfield down as well. They are a great club who spend lots of time, energy and money on developing juniors. A credit to the town and to the game of Rugby League.
Hands off Mazey. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 23:26 - Jun 12 with 2824 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 23:11 - Jun 12 by pioneer |
To be fair there is a full match report on the Hornets website. These reports may be produced 'centrally' because they tend to appear on both clubs website around the same time - though I havent checked Swinton's site. Also they dont tend to be full of 'tub thumping' and present a reasonably balanced report of the game.
It will be more than tragic if Mazey not only takes Hornets down, but takes mayfield down as well. They are a great club who spend lots of time, energy and money on developing juniors. A credit to the town and to the game of Rugby League.
Hands off Mazey. |
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/article/1095/hornets-come-off-second-best-i
If you meant this, this is a propaganda statement, not a match report
The defeat is Hornets’ third in Betfred League 1, all of which have come against the three teams currently above them in the division.
Isn't that how league tables usually work?
Rochdale’s ascendency didn’t last long though
Hornets were never ahead in the game.
Coming into the game, there was nothing to separate the two sides in the table
Conveniently forgetting points difference there.
They way it's going, there may be more at Rochdale Mayfield that Rochdale Hornets soon. Much better welcome, a decent pint and winning rugby. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 23:29 - Jun 12 with 2814 views | D_Alien |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:23 - Jun 12 by pioneer |
Sadly they have no power. Dale were saved from oblivion by the shareholders. There are no shareholding Hornets fans. mazey and his mates bought the club for 20 quid each and hold all the shares. Even el presidente in London ‘bought’ into the deal, |
True, but just supposing Morton House had managed to get their slimy hands on a majority shareholding at Dale. Would that have resulted in mere murmurings from us lot? I dread to think what kind of noise and disturbance would've resulted
Instead... next to nothing. If the hitherto Hornets faithful can't be bothered, it becomes a fait accompli
No doubt Mazey looked at the demographic and saw nothing but opportunity, having failed elsewhere; but then, Bottomley & MH made that mistake with us. The "managed decline" aspect referred to by RAFCBLUE wouldn't have put us off, just made us more determined. Why not Hornets fans?
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| Hornets on Sunday on 00:02 - Jun 13 with 2766 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 23:26 - Jun 12 by RAFCBLUE |
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/article/1095/hornets-come-off-second-best-i
If you meant this, this is a propaganda statement, not a match report
The defeat is Hornets’ third in Betfred League 1, all of which have come against the three teams currently above them in the division.
Isn't that how league tables usually work?
Rochdale’s ascendency didn’t last long though
Hornets were never ahead in the game.
Coming into the game, there was nothing to separate the two sides in the table
Conveniently forgetting points difference there.
They way it's going, there may be more at Rochdale Mayfield that Rochdale Hornets soon. Much better welcome, a decent pint and winning rugby. |
No, the league table is based on points gained not who you beat to get them.
Many of the teams in the division have either beaten a team above them and/or lost to a team below them.
While I share your concern with the way the Hornets club is being run I think you are going a bit over the top with the criticism of the match report. It doesnt say they were ever in the lead and your argument about points difference is a bit picky - they were level on points.
Incidentally I dont think nthey are done centrally, a report of a previous game was posted on the opposition's website word for word, but I now think that was just opportunism, not policy and practice. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 00:29 - Jun 13 with 2709 views | TyroneShoelaces |
| Hornets on Sunday on 23:26 - Jun 12 by RAFCBLUE |
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/article/1095/hornets-come-off-second-best-i
If you meant this, this is a propaganda statement, not a match report
The defeat is Hornets’ third in Betfred League 1, all of which have come against the three teams currently above them in the division.
Isn't that how league tables usually work?
Rochdale’s ascendency didn’t last long though
Hornets were never ahead in the game.
Coming into the game, there was nothing to separate the two sides in the table
Conveniently forgetting points difference there.
They way it's going, there may be more at Rochdale Mayfield that Rochdale Hornets soon. Much better welcome, a decent pint and winning rugby. |
I know you like a conspiracy theory RAFC_BLUE but i think you are getting ahead of yourself on that one.
There is a lot of 2+2 adding up going on here with some answers being correct at 4, some close with 5, and some wildly off thd mark with 163.
What would be good is if the Hornets Board answered their own fans questions and concerns first and maybe chuck in a couple statements to deny or confirm some of things mentioned in this thread.
If nothing else Mazey and his Co Directors owe that much to the Hornets fans | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 11:00 - Jun 13 with 2370 views | Dalenet |
| Hornets on Sunday on 00:29 - Jun 13 by TyroneShoelaces |
I know you like a conspiracy theory RAFC_BLUE but i think you are getting ahead of yourself on that one.
There is a lot of 2+2 adding up going on here with some answers being correct at 4, some close with 5, and some wildly off thd mark with 163.
What would be good is if the Hornets Board answered their own fans questions and concerns first and maybe chuck in a couple statements to deny or confirm some of things mentioned in this thread.
If nothing else Mazey and his Co Directors owe that much to the Hornets fans |
Do they ever hold a fans forum so that the fans can ask questions of the Board? | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 13:24 - Jun 13 with 2258 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 11:00 - Jun 13 by Dalenet |
Do they ever hold a fans forum so that the fans can ask questions of the Board? |
No | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 15:20 - Jun 13 with 2141 views | bigdoug4 |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:53 - Jun 12 by kel |
Well BIGDoug is logged in so perhaps he can give another perspective on it.
Or he’ll probably just dodge it like he does whenever he gets asked a question. |
I would be more worried about where you are going to get a team from for next season if i were you kel. | | | |
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