| Our midfield for next season 14:11 - Mar 19 with 4538 views | bosh67 |
If we can keep Morrison and Lua Lua we have a really strong and deep midfield squad ready for next season.
Right now we have...
Manning, Morrison, Goss, Luongo, Freeman, Ngbakoto (kind of a striker and midfielder), Wszolek and, Lua Lua, with Cousins, Shodipo (on loan), Petrasso, Hamalainen and Doughty all fighting for places as well. Have excluded Gladwin, again on loan, because I think he will move on.
It will be an interesting close season. We will possibly need another central defender, but we do have a few youngsters coming through, and another striker, although we do have Grego Cox back to fitness and like Washington, he has blistering pace.
So, a very strong midfield. and not too far off elsewhere. I personally think we have the basis for a very good young squad next season without much work to be done. This is a pretty good bunch, particularly the midfield.
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| Our midfield for next season on 07:54 - Mar 20 with 1362 views | sexton |
Sorry, but in his previous incarnation here Morrison was nowhere near Adel's level of genius. |  | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 08:27 - Mar 20 with 1316 views | Myke |
I agree , but by all accounts he was the real deal at Man Utd |  | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 09:41 - Mar 20 with 1229 views | nadera78 |
| Our midfield for next season on 18:13 - Mar 19 by Northernr |
Sam Gallagher. Perfect for our current set up and not a fcking wnkr. |
Most impressive centre forward I've seen at Loftus Rd this season. Alongside a centre half and a defensive midfielder to cover Hall, and I'd probably be done.
Morrison, for me, is simply further evidence to support one of the main planks of Moneyball - not the financial aspect, but the idea that most people involved in sport look at a player and project what he might be rather than examine the evidence of what he is. At 24 years of age Morrison is exactly what he's always going to be, he won't change and he can't change. That still won't prevent someone signing him in the summer.
I wouldn't bother with Perch or Lua Lua, but I suspect Holloway will go for the latter or maybe even both. | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 09:57 - Mar 20 with 1213 views | parker64 |
I would imagine Morrison has been set as a minimum fitness/weight targets. If he meets them he may get a deal. He's played so little competitive football it'll take a monumental effort on his part to get to Championship level fitness. | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 10:15 - Mar 20 with 1174 views | BrianMcCarthy |
I wonder how much wages would affect any possible permanent move for Morrison, and if they affected such a move in January. We operate a strict wage policy now and fitting Morrison into it might be tough. |  |
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| Our midfield for next season on 10:17 - Mar 20 with 1166 views | daveB |
I'd wait till the end of the season before judging Morrison, I thought he did ok when he came on at the weekend but looks very rusty. A loan deal with an option to buy was an excellent deal for the club, basically a 4 month trial and if he doesn't fit in we've lost nothing |  | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 10:19 - Mar 20 with 1161 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Our midfield for next season on 10:15 - Mar 20 by BrianMcCarthy |
I wonder how much wages would affect any possible permanent move for Morrison, and if they affected such a move in January. We operate a strict wage policy now and fitting Morrison into it might be tough. |
Pay as you play would be nice if we do take him with us next season.
No one from the club has said he's being disruptive which is a good sign, but can't say i've been overawed with his handful of minutes he's played.
Jury is very much still out for me. I think he's played a total of 30 minutes for us, so can'd join the get rid brigade yet. [Post edited 20 Mar 2017 10:19]
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| Our midfield for next season on 10:24 - Mar 20 with 1149 views | hoof_hearted |
Morrison has, as dear old Arsene would say, "technique" better than any other player we have. The ball sticks to him when he collects it and he uses his body well to shield and remove whoever is close to him from the game. If he can get (and stay) properly match fit then he could be next season's "too good for us".
If you read these things Ravel then prove it to yourself while wearing blue and white hoops. You won't regret it. You owe us nothing but you owe yourself the best career you can create. You'll have plenty of stories to tell your grandchildren about the legendary times you had when you won your 2017/18 Championship winners medal at Loftus Road. |  | | |
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| Our midfield for next season on 10:37 - Mar 20 with 1138 views | BlackCrowe |
Morrison on Saturday was a bit like me when i play footie with my kids and their friends. Can't be arsed to try and match their boundless energy levels so assume a central defence/midfield/rush goalie role where i just tap it to the nearest player on our team. Until i get bored and try a defence splitting pass or long range shot which fail miserably. |  |
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| Our midfield for next season on 11:04 - Mar 20 with 1109 views | nadera78 |
| Our midfield for next season on 10:17 - Mar 20 by daveB |
I'd wait till the end of the season before judging Morrison, I thought he did ok when he came on at the weekend but looks very rusty. A loan deal with an option to buy was an excellent deal for the club, basically a 4 month trial and if he doesn't fit in we've lost nothing |
Really? I thought he (and Goss for that matter) sat far too deep. In fact, for a while, Hall was playing in front of both of them! For good chunks of time we had 2 Centre Backs and 3 Midfielders standing on top of one another, it was ridiculous. | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:35 - Mar 20 with 1061 views | californiahoop |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:04 - Mar 20 by nadera78 |
Really? I thought he (and Goss for that matter) sat far too deep. In fact, for a while, Hall was playing in front of both of them! For good chunks of time we had 2 Centre Backs and 3 Midfielders standing on top of one another, it was ridiculous. |
Did Ollie ask them to sit deep? Didn't see him gesturing to them to push up?
I think Ollie was trying to retain the ball and wanted these two to keep the ball moving from deep?
I thought Ravel looked great on the ball and never gave the ball away once! He wasn't the show pony but a footballer, I like! | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:40 - Mar 20 with 1047 views | daveB |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:04 - Mar 20 by nadera78 |
Really? I thought he (and Goss for that matter) sat far too deep. In fact, for a while, Hall was playing in front of both of them! For good chunks of time we had 2 Centre Backs and 3 Midfielders standing on top of one another, it was ridiculous. |
I assume he was under instructions to sit deep and he kept the ball pretty well. He looks nowhere near as good as his did a few years back but I think it's a bit too early to judge him yet. The key will be his attitude in training, not a chance Holloway will sign him if he doesn't show improvements to that | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:45 - Mar 20 with 1031 views | kensalriser |
| Our midfield for next season on 08:27 - Mar 20 by Myke |
I agree , but by all accounts he was the real deal at Man Utd |
As he made a grand total of zero appearances for Utd there's no evidence for that at all. |  |
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| Our midfield for next season on 12:23 - Mar 20 with 968 views | simmo |
No to Morrison, not fussed what he does between now and the end. If the penny hasn't dropped sufficiently for him that he can't even turn up ON TIME consistently then fck him. Not worth the risk to the group. Why should he be getting anywhere near the team ahead of the likes of Manning, Freeman or even Doughty etc if they are doing exactly what's being asked of them and Morrison is not? It's undermining and it's not a risk we need to take.
As for the rest of midfield, I think it's looking really good. I do think another creative/attacking player would be helpful as Manning is still very young/raw and we would rely too much on Freeman who apart from anything else can't possibly maintain this level of brilliance forever. Perhaps Eze is the answer there as Olly clearly rates him but outside of that I still really like Dack (if we're spending money).
The good thing is we finally have players that are strong in and out of possession. Freeman, Manning, Luongo, Cousins are all workers AND they can play. Add people that can retain possession/pass in Doughty and Goss, it just means we need a little bit of invention and we're good for that part of the pitch IMO. I'm not writing off Gladwin as part of that either, I think he will go better in this system under Ollie than trying to shoe horn him into whatever 'deep, tight' narrow' system Hasselbaink wanted.
I'd also happily keep Perch, the odd ridiculous challenge aside he has played very well at CB, RB, LB and DM during his time here, not consistently and not well enough to usurp the specialists in those positions, but well enough that he's a good addition to the squad. Great pro too, which is important for this group and shows application and effort will be rewarded. [Post edited 20 Mar 2017 12:39]
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| Our midfield for next season on 14:31 - Mar 20 with 816 views | californiahoop |
| Our midfield for next season on 15:26 - Mar 19 by eghamranger |
Too many I think.
Doughty and Petrasso need to move on and Gladwin is really poor. |
I think Doughty could play Left sided CB, started as a LB and has played CB at Swindon. [Post edited 20 Mar 2017 14:32]
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| Our midfield for next season on 17:06 - Mar 20 with 763 views | Myke |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:45 - Mar 20 by kensalriser |
As he made a grand total of zero appearances for Utd there's no evidence for that at all. |
Not at all sure how I ended up defending Morrison here as I don't think he is any addition to us. But if you listen to anyone who trained with or managed him (including Fergie) as a youngster, there seems little doubt about his talent, that's what I was referring to. | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 21:03 - Mar 20 with 678 views | californiahoop |
| Our midfield for next season on 17:06 - Mar 20 by Myke |
Not at all sure how I ended up defending Morrison here as I don't think he is any addition to us. But if you listen to anyone who trained with or managed him (including Fergie) as a youngster, there seems little doubt about his talent, that's what I was referring to. |
Yep, heard a few of the Rangers boys say the same. | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 08:07 - Mar 21 with 607 views | Dorse |
| Our midfield for next season on 14:31 - Mar 20 by californiahoop |
I think Doughty could play Left sided CB, started as a LB and has played CB at Swindon. [Post edited 20 Mar 2017 14:32]
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Didn't know that. Maybe cover for the 'Hall Position'?
Re CBs, there are a couple on the fringes from the Development side. Finney has just been given a contract and Chris Paul gets decent write ups. Probably a bit early for Paul this season but Finney has played a couple of first team games at Bolton. |  |
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| Our midfield for next season on 09:33 - Mar 21 with 574 views | californiahoop |
| Our midfield for next season on 08:07 - Mar 21 by Dorse |
Didn't know that. Maybe cover for the 'Hall Position'?
Re CBs, there are a couple on the fringes from the Development side. Finney has just been given a contract and Chris Paul gets decent write ups. Probably a bit early for Paul this season but Finney has played a couple of first team games at Bolton. |
I really rate Doughty, he got messed up by previous management, especially CR.
I think he could play that Leftsided CB role and I believe IH will help Caulker, if we can, we have one hell of a CB.
If all that happened, we just need a RB and goal scorer, I think Sylla will be better next season but CW and Smith will be great off the bench.
If Ravel and LuaLua sign we are set for a good season. | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:28 - Mar 21 with 526 views | Watford_Ranger |
I like Doughty too but he's 24 now and several managers have had a look and decided he's not quite good enough. Signing Goss puts him way down the pecking order. He really needs to go somewhere permanently and get games. | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:35 - Mar 21 with 516 views | simmo |
If he can't break into a Holloway team, it doesn't look good. Ollie was a massive fan before he took the job and couldn't wait to get him back to QPR, now he has and he's not been able to find a spot even on the bench most weeks, I would suggest there's not much hope for him unless he addresses whatever shortcomings IH has seen up close.
Compare it to Furlong who granted has less competition at RB than Doughty has in CM, but he's come in and shown that he deserves to be picked and can play the way Ollie wants. The signing of Goss as a relatively similar player is also bad news for Doughty.
I personally think League 1 is his level. [Post edited 21 Mar 2017 11:36]
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| Our midfield for next season on 11:38 - Mar 21 with 507 views | RBlock |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:28 - Mar 21 by Watford_Ranger |
I like Doughty too but he's 24 now and several managers have had a look and decided he's not quite good enough. Signing Goss puts him way down the pecking order. He really needs to go somewhere permanently and get games. |
Ye I can't see Doughty ever breaking through now. He has a great left foot but very similar to Goss in that respect. Nothing close to the all action style of Manning. With Goss potentially as an alternative to Hall in that deep lying midfield role, I can't see where Doughty fits in. We need an upgrade on Lynch if anything, a nasty sod rather than a midfield ball player turned CB. It is a shame, but he needs to move on at this point. |  | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:48 - Mar 21 with 498 views | Northernr |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:28 - Mar 21 by Watford_Ranger |
I like Doughty too but he's 24 now and several managers have had a look and decided he's not quite good enough. Signing Goss puts him way down the pecking order. He really needs to go somewhere permanently and get games. |
There have been times - when we were picking Henry and fcking Sandro in midfield for instance - that I think we could have used him more. But it's now at the point where I agree with you. Holloway raved about him at Swindon so if he can't get in under him it's time to go. |  | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 11:55 - Mar 21 with 483 views | daveB |
I think Doughty will be an excellent player in league one and possibly the Championship in a few years but I can't see him making it with us, shame really but he's way down the pecking order at the moment and really didn't take his chance against Burton. | | | |
| Our midfield for next season on 12:22 - Mar 21 with 447 views | BklynRanger |
I'd like to be a bit greedy and augment the quote unquote 'spine' of the squad. A young promising CB, possibly on a year's loan from a Premium team with an option to buy; another Manning/Cousins/Goss type to allow for injuries or dips in form; and a modern day John Spencer up front. |  | | |
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