| Owain tudur Jones retirement 14:56 - Mar 6 with 2920 views | swanskid95 |
Just announced his retirement from football due to a knee injury, still a huge Swans fan! |  | | |  |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:04 - Mar 6 with 1792 views | dgt73 |
Could have reached the top if not for injuries. I was there at Swindon when he got injured and never really recovered from that. |  |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:14 - Mar 6 with 1772 views | ApeShit |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:04 - Mar 6 by dgt73 |
Could have reached the top if not for injuries. I was there at Swindon when he got injured and never really recovered from that. |
Don't re-write history, he was never going to be good enough for the PL. |  | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:20 - Mar 6 with 1757 views | Darran |
One of the worst players I've ever seen in a Swans shirt,pure gash. |  |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:20 - Mar 6 with 1757 views | Pegojack |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:14 - Mar 6 by ApeShit |
Don't re-write history, he was never going to be good enough for the PL. |
Very true, he was a mediocre to crap midfielder at a time when we were desperately short of decent centre backs. He'd played in that position early in his career, but didn't want to switch at the Swans. The rest, as they say, is history.... |  | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:21 - Mar 6 with 1754 views | waynekerr55 |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:20 - Mar 6 by Darran |
One of the worst players I've ever seen in a Swans shirt,pure gash. |
Future captain of Wales mun...
Ironic as he's the diametric opposite to what the man who invented passing wants in a player.
Shame though. Never nice for a career to be curtailed by injury |  |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:23 - Mar 6 with 1749 views | icecoldjack |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:04 - Mar 6 by dgt73 |
Could have reached the top if not for injuries. I was there at Swindon when he got injured and never really recovered from that. |
The top of what ? Kilvey Hill ?
OTJ might have had a really good career if he had converted to centre half like he was advised to, instead of thinking he could play as a Swans midfielder, he didn't take the advice and was sold to a L1 club, not ever getting higher than that in his career .
As for making it to the top, he couldn't nail down a regular place with us let alone make it to the top, no doubt his injury played a certain part butas a midfielder no chance, he may have good enough if he became a centre half, if memory serves me well he wern't too great at heading for height either !
I wish him well for the future, played a small part in our rise i suppose. |  | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:01 - Mar 6 with 1684 views | dgt73 |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 15:14 - Mar 6 by ApeShit |
Don't re-write history, he was never going to be good enough for the PL. |
Aye I'd imagine you could say the same for the likes of Ash Williams, Leon Britton, Rangel etc, or hang on they were/are good enough for the PL. OTJ was young when he got injured at Swindon and it's impossible to tell 100% whether he'd have made it, but he'd have had a very good chance. | |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:10 - Mar 6 with 1667 views | STEVE1 |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:01 - Mar 6 by dgt73 |
Aye I'd imagine you could say the same for the likes of Ash Williams, Leon Britton, Rangel etc, or hang on they were/are good enough for the PL. OTJ was young when he got injured at Swindon and it's impossible to tell 100% whether he'd have made it, but he'd have had a very good chance. |
Before the injury he was average in a very good league 1 side I said to my boy the very first time I saw him that he really looks the part sadly his football ability did not come into line with that. Disappointed for him that he have had to call it a day hope things work out for him in whatever her decides to do. |  | | |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:32 - Mar 6 with 1638 views | MillJack |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:01 - Mar 6 by dgt73 |
Aye I'd imagine you could say the same for the likes of Ash Williams, Leon Britton, Rangel etc, or hang on they were/are good enough for the PL. OTJ was young when he got injured at Swindon and it's impossible to tell 100% whether he'd have made it, but he'd have had a very good chance. |
I'm with Darran on this one, he was dogsh*t. |  | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:40 - Mar 6 with 1623 views | SirParlayMBE |
One of the worst central midfielder we ever had, I was dumbfounded every time I heard someone say how good he was going to be. His areal ability was woeful for someone of his size and his passing range non existent He was a lanky Kristian Oleary.... reach the very top?
Jesus Christ. | | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:44 - Mar 6 with 1612 views | perchrockjack |
Incredible anyone could see anything in him when he was bought by our club.
Slow ,deceptively slow ,unable to shoot ,pass or tackle and a sickness record to bleed for.
Utter irrelevance who got good money from my/our club.
But he was Welsh..ffs | |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:48 - Mar 6 with 1608 views | Treforys_Jack |
Don't remember him being dog shite or gash and certainly not one of the worst ever midfield players we've had. Good enough for Championship or PL ? No definitely not, but did ok until our progress left him behind, but that could apply to numerous ex players. |  | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:52 - Mar 6 with 1600 views | STEVE1 |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:48 - Mar 6 by Treforys_Jack |
Don't remember him being dog shite or gash and certainly not one of the worst ever midfield players we've had. Good enough for Championship or PL ? No definitely not, but did ok until our progress left him behind, but that could apply to numerous ex players. |
We actually sold him to Norwich for £250,000 where I think he played no more than an handful of games the first being a 1-7 home defeat to Colchester. | | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:53 - Mar 6 with 1593 views | perchrockjack |
That's very naughty of us.
250,000
Even now ,that's some fee | |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 17:10 - Mar 6 with 1575 views | icecoldjack |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:01 - Mar 6 by dgt73 |
Aye I'd imagine you could say the same for the likes of Ash Williams, Leon Britton, Rangel etc, or hang on they were/are good enough for the PL. OTJ was young when he got injured at Swindon and it's impossible to tell 100% whether he'd have made it, but he'd have had a very good chance. |
Well there is one thing that is different here, OTJ came from Porthmadoc via Bangor, most of our lower league players at the time,least the ones that did make it all the way through had been at top clubs from a young age so had something about them.
While you never know what will happen with any player, with the ones mentioned below we could at least understand the pedigree, so its not a massive surprise when we see them playing prem football really, not if you think about it, of course its been down to massive hard work and dedication by them and the club to acheive that.
Garry Monk- Southampton
Alan Tate- Man utd
Leon Britton- West Ham/Arsenal
Mark Gower- Spurs
Tom Butler- Sunderland
Ash Williams - WBA
Darren Pratley- Fulham
Most of these players didn't quite cut it with teir parent clubs but they obviously had talent that could be nurtured and grown, there will always be a hidden gem like Rangel, but they are the exception rather than the rule.
OTJ was an average footballer who we thought we could develop, turned out he was of limited ability, no shame in that either, they are still miles ahead of most who play the game. | | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 17:13 - Mar 6 with 1572 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 17:10 - Mar 6 by icecoldjack |
Well there is one thing that is different here, OTJ came from Porthmadoc via Bangor, most of our lower league players at the time,least the ones that did make it all the way through had been at top clubs from a young age so had something about them.
While you never know what will happen with any player, with the ones mentioned below we could at least understand the pedigree, so its not a massive surprise when we see them playing prem football really, not if you think about it, of course its been down to massive hard work and dedication by them and the club to acheive that.
Garry Monk- Southampton
Alan Tate- Man utd
Leon Britton- West Ham/Arsenal
Mark Gower- Spurs
Tom Butler- Sunderland
Ash Williams - WBA
Darren Pratley- Fulham
Most of these players didn't quite cut it with teir parent clubs but they obviously had talent that could be nurtured and grown, there will always be a hidden gem like Rangel, but they are the exception rather than the rule.
OTJ was an average footballer who we thought we could develop, turned out he was of limited ability, no shame in that either, they are still miles ahead of most who play the game. |
Good points well made. Even given you an up arrow  | | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 17:59 - Mar 6 with 1516 views | Starsky |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:44 - Mar 6 by perchrockjack |
Incredible anyone could see anything in him when he was bought by our club.
Slow ,deceptively slow ,unable to shoot ,pass or tackle and a sickness record to bleed for.
Utter irrelevance who got good money from my/our club.
But he was Welsh..ffs |
Harsh.
With regards to getting money from the club...
We bought him for £5000 and sold him for £250,000
Not good enough for us but let's show a bit of heart here and wish the lad all the best for the future.
Even Oldjack had to retire with a dodgy knee. |  |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:02 - Mar 6 with 1510 views | C_jack |
There was a desperation for one of our own to come good at the time. The fan base wanted him to be a lot better than he was ever going to be. |  |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:02 - Mar 6 with 1509 views | giantstoneater |
Who knows if he would have made it in the Premier his first and worse injury sustained playing for us certainly didn't help, in our first season back in the First Division under KJ his partnership with Roberto helped us to the top of the division, post injury we fell away. It always amazes me how some posters slag off our former players also one who's injury playing for us was probably the end of his career KJ didn't do him any favours by rushing him back too early. Diolch i ti OTJ a pob lwc yn y dyfodol. |  | | |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:25 - Mar 6 with 1466 views | max936 |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 16:53 - Mar 6 by perchrockjack |
That's very naughty of us.
250,000
Even now ,that's some fee |
Mere beer money for folks living on the Wirral, Im told Richy  |  |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:32 - Mar 6 with 1452 views | max936 |
Sad to hear about a former Swans player, yes he was limited, but that was like a lot of players we had at the time so no real shame in that, plus he made us a few bob when he moved on, good luck to him in his future career. | |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:39 - Mar 6 with 1438 views | Dr_Winston |
Some top nonsense in this thread.
Decent player OTJ. Not great by any stretch, but much better than the drama queens are claiming. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:48 - Mar 6 with 1412 views | Darran |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:39 - Mar 6 by Dr_Winston |
Some top nonsense in this thread.
Decent player OTJ. Not great by any stretch, but much better than the drama queens are claiming. |
No he wasn't he was shit. | |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:49 - Mar 6 with 1411 views | Dr_Winston |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:48 - Mar 6 by Darran |
No he wasn't he was shit. |
Exhibit A. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:53 - Mar 6 with 1397 views | Darran |
| Owain tudur Jones retirement on 18:49 - Mar 6 by Dr_Winston |
Exhibit A. |
He was a poor mans Orlandi that's how bad he was. | |
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