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Syrian Debate in House of Commons 11:37 - Nov 26 with 5122 viewsNookiejack

Cameron states the troops who will take and hold ground against ISIS in Syria (if UK enters into Syrian bombing campaign) are:-

(1) 'Moderate' Free Syrian Army of which he 'estimates' there are 70,000.

Surely this has no credibility?

I assume Free Syrian Army is 100% Sunni - so what are Assad's Shia Alawites supported by Russia going to do in the meantime - while Free Syrian Army is defeating ISIS? Hang on Free Syrian army isn't currently fighting ISIS - it is fighting Assad.

Are the Free Syrian Army actually moderates - or could they actually be more extremist than ISIS?

Is 70,000 troops actually enough to defeat ISIS - even if they had 70,000 which by all accounts they have nowhere near that number.

(2) Kurds

The thing is with regards to the Kurds they don't want to go further than Sinjar because they are then going into Arab Sunni heartlands - so will not have support of local population. Also Turkey is going to bomb the hell out of the Kurds - if they have any success on ground - as do not want the establishment of a Kurdistan state.
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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:28 - Nov 27 with 1220 viewsDarran

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:21 - Nov 27 by Lohengrin

I was supposed to have gone to see Bridge of Spies myself last night, Perch, then we had visitors come out of the blue and that put the tin hat on it.

Was it any good? I read Whittell's book a few years ago. I hope it lives up to it.


What did you do there? I got high. 😂

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:29 - Nov 27 with 1219 viewsdailew

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 20:01 - Nov 26 by Lohengrin

This looks to be quite prescient from two years ago.



Funny how Griffin and Gorgeous Geroge make the so-called moderates look like extremists.


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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:30 - Nov 27 with 1217 viewsLohengrin

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:28 - Nov 27 by Darran

What did you do there? I got high. 😂


The Small Faces?

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:30 - Nov 27 with 1215 viewsDarran

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:30 - Nov 27 by Lohengrin

The Small Faces?


Over Bridge Of Spies.

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:32 - Nov 27 with 1213 viewsLohengrin

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:30 - Nov 27 by Darran

Over Bridge Of Spies.


That awful T'Pau thing with the ginger bird caterwaulin'?

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:34 - Nov 27 with 1210 viewsDarran

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:32 - Nov 27 by Lohengrin

That awful T'Pau thing with the ginger bird caterwaulin'?


No still The Small Faces.

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:37 - Nov 27 with 1205 viewsLeonisGod

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:42 - Nov 26 by DTSS19

I'm not big on politics, especially war politics, so can someone explain to a complete dolt, in laymans terms how countries/governments actually make money from wars?


No I'm not into it either, so take a very objective view. To me it seems it's about ALL the things mentioned on this thread.

Religion - the locals hate each other's guts, and we have a splinter cell in IS who hate everyone's guts if they are not orthodox Muslims.

Power - we still seem to be suffering a hangover from the Cold War, with the belief that it's a race between western alliance nations versus Russia and friends to 'control' the region .

Money - that control brings (among other benefits) the prizes of oil and energy security. But arming factions is more than a nice little sideline in arms deals.

I think it's been said already - it's a clusterfcuk
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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 15:06 - Nov 27 with 1160 viewsJack_Meoff

Dennis Skinner speaking in the Commons. He mentions the real reason for our involvement - ousting Assad. I've run out of adjectives/expletives for Cameron. He's a good actor though, I'll give him that.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dennis-skinner-syria-military-inte

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 15:10 - Nov 27 with 1158 viewsLohengrin

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 13:29 - Nov 27 by dailew

Funny how Griffin and Gorgeous Geroge make the so-called moderates look like extremists.



We've seen it time and again throughout history that those considered in extremis during the normal course of events in time of war become vindicated.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 15:17 - Nov 27 with 1148 viewscontroversial_jack

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 15:10 - Nov 27 by Lohengrin

We've seen it time and again throughout history that those considered in extremis during the normal course of events in time of war become vindicated.


Galloway has been proven to be spot on with that prediction
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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 15:25 - Nov 27 with 1142 viewsperchrockjack

and he will never tire of saying so.
It doesn't make him a prophet nor a decent man.

Anyway, bridge of spies... wife enjoyed it but I fell asleep and was audibly snoring; she had to dig me in the ribs. I thought it was well acted but tedious but I have a short attention span and am hard to please.

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 16:26 - Nov 27 with 1116 viewsLord_Bony

Killed by a fag wanhe?

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 16:35 - Nov 27 with 1103 viewscontroversial_jack

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 15:25 - Nov 27 by perchrockjack

and he will never tire of saying so.
It doesn't make him a prophet nor a decent man.

Anyway, bridge of spies... wife enjoyed it but I fell asleep and was audibly snoring; she had to dig me in the ribs. I thought it was well acted but tedious but I have a short attention span and am hard to please.

RIP Steve Marriot and Be careful with electrics folks


Why i'snt he a decent man?
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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 16:37 - Nov 27 with 1101 viewsoh_tommy_tommy







Stinks to high heaven

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 16:39 - Nov 27 with 1094 viewsJack_Meoff

Interview with Assad.


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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 16:42 - Nov 27 with 914 viewsperchrockjack

About time Dennis packed in this class war stuff.

He s always spouted the same ,bitter, bile and is loved accordingly.


WHY is GG not decent?

Jesus H, You really are a one.


Dennis and George do NOT have answers . They pose questions but cannot supply definitive solutions

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 16:46 - Nov 27 with 908 viewsJack_Meoff

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 16:42 - Nov 27 by perchrockjack

About time Dennis packed in this class war stuff.

He s always spouted the same ,bitter, bile and is loved accordingly.


WHY is GG not decent?

Jesus H, You really are a one.


Dennis and George do NOT have answers . They pose questions but cannot supply definitive solutions


What was bitter and bilious about asking for clarification? Given the utterly confusing clusterf*ck of the situation in Syria?

You seem to be letting your opinion of an individual cloud your objectivity about what he's saying. It nothing to do with class war in this instance.

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 16:55 - Nov 27 with 890 viewsperchrockjack

Its a matter of you simply supporting him and his beliefs, which is fine. I respect that.

Dennis has no solutions and has been just about the most insulting of all MPs over the years. He will be applauded by you but he will be railing against the usual people and countries as did Benn and does Corbyn.

We need solutions and he hasn't, just bitter invective. .

ThIs is what the left do and love

Was Thatcher a decent human being.


I think I ll take a bath

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 17:03 - Nov 27 with 886 viewsJack_Meoff

I just came across someone who I thought was raising a valid point in Parliament. As much as I, for example, dislike UKIP, I've seen videos of MEP Godfrey Bloom making what I consider very valid points in Brussels. So I commend him in those instances. Doesn't mean I agree with everything he says.

You seem to be the only person on this forum who uses the phrase 'class war.' I'd suggest the majority of the rest of us don't give a f*ck, and look at each issue on merit.

Enjoy your bath, watch out for prune fingers...

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 17:11 - Nov 27 with 876 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 17:03 - Nov 27 by Jack_Meoff

I just came across someone who I thought was raising a valid point in Parliament. As much as I, for example, dislike UKIP, I've seen videos of MEP Godfrey Bloom making what I consider very valid points in Brussels. So I commend him in those instances. Doesn't mean I agree with everything he says.

You seem to be the only person on this forum who uses the phrase 'class war.' I'd suggest the majority of the rest of us don't give a f*ck, and look at each issue on merit.

Enjoy your bath, watch out for prune fingers...


perch hates everything left of right
except Aldi bargains, for which I praise his knowledge.
He's even blamed the swans poor form on Corbyn


I'd buy him a pint though he seems a decent chap

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 17:17 - Nov 27 with 870 viewsLord_Bony

Yeah I d buy him a pint...he s an expert on Aldi fair play...

Would be nice if he could play guitar and sing a few at this years do....

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 17:41 - Nov 27 with 853 viewsJack_Meoff

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 17:11 - Nov 27 by oh_tommy_tommy

perch hates everything left of right
except Aldi bargains, for which I praise his knowledge.
He's even blamed the swans poor form on Corbyn


I'd buy him a pint though he seems a decent chap


Diametrically opposed to him politically, but do agree with your last sentence. The FACKER.

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 17:46 - Nov 27 with 849 viewsJack_Meoff

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 17:17 - Nov 27 by Lord_Bony

Yeah I d buy him a pint...he s an expert on Aldi fair play...

Would be nice if he could play guitar and sing a few at this years do....


He does a mean 'We'll Keep The Red Flag Flying High' apparently

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 18:24 - Nov 27 with 824 viewsperchrockjack

Folk me tom, wrong
Again.

Hope you show better judgement when buying underwear .

Why is that her dismissed out of hand as a she devil.

Think before answering and before you do, millions elected and re elected her so your views and thst of South Wales are naturally going to be subjective.

In other words, left good right bad... As I've always said on here.

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Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 18:31 - Nov 27 with 815 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Syrian Debate in House of Commons on 18:24 - Nov 27 by perchrockjack

Folk me tom, wrong
Again.

Hope you show better judgement when buying underwear .

Why is that her dismissed out of hand as a she devil.

Think before answering and before you do, millions elected and re elected her so your views and thst of South Wales are naturally going to be subjective.

In other words, left good right bad... As I've always said on here.


Who is she ?

i have mentioned no women, no devil?

now you have mentioned a women

& you would say that perchie she may have gave you a massive pay rise?

Iam more centre left and like principled people

maks & sparks underwear in the winter time perchie

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