| Transfer Thread on 21:36 - Jul 20 with 1859 views | magicdaps10 |
Unfortunately if we want to progress and add to what we need it seems that an 8 figure fee is going to be required for about 2-3 players that are required for the squad.
We are over stocked with wingers at present, with an ageing Leon then i would say we need someone to come in for Leon and 2 Strikers. Would have said that we need two fullbacks but i feel he will go with Naughton at RB and with the emergence of young Kingsley at LB, the need is not as required as it was. |  |
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| Transfer Thread on 21:42 - Jul 20 with 1819 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Transfer Thread on 21:32 - Jul 20 by Dr_Winston |
Fer, Ki, Britton & Cork. Enough decent cover there for two positions that spending £13m is simply a reckless use of finite transfer cash. At £8m or so then signing Allen might be worthwhile. If Liverpool want most of their money back on a player they clearly don't want anymore then some other mug can pay it.
If we're going to be spending eight figures on someone this summer it needs to be a striker, or goalscoring winger.
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Leon is the only one fit to clean Allen's boots and he's getting on now.
Leroy f*cking Fer.
Missing out on Allen would be insane IMO. Proven quality, great age and someone who'll probably start 300 games for us |  | | |
| Transfer Thread on 21:44 - Jul 20 with 1784 views | stid |
13M for a player in his final year? Thanks but no thanks. |  | | |
| Transfer Thread on 21:46 - Jul 20 with 1756 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Transfer Thread on 21:44 - Jul 20 by stid |
13M for a player in his final year? Thanks but no thanks. |
No let's just watch him go elsewhere whilst we rely on the likes of Jack Cork and hope that Ki has his one good season in 4. | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 21:48 - Jul 20 with 1739 views | Dr_Winston |
| Transfer Thread on 21:42 - Jul 20 by AngelRangelQS |
Leon is the only one fit to clean Allen's boots and he's getting on now.
Leroy f*cking Fer.
Missing out on Allen would be insane IMO. Proven quality, great age and someone who'll probably start 300 games for us |
It's amazing how quickly a player can go from "We f*cking mugged Liverpool off for £15m!" to "Oh God! Oh God! we have to pay £13m for Joe!" after one international tournament.
Allen is a good player. I won't even argue that he'd be an improvement on what we have. I just don't see spending £13m on a player in the last year of his contract and who his current club don't want as something we desperately need to do. |  |
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| Transfer Thread on 21:49 - Jul 20 with 1725 views | mjingram13 |
I must admit the lack of movement in the transfer market....every other club seems to be buying we just haven't bothered. I know some of the prices are inflated,as they always seem to be after a major tournament, however we have to do something and quick........ | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 21:51 - Jul 20 with 1713 views | stid |
| Transfer Thread on 21:46 - Jul 20 by AngelRangelQS |
No let's just watch him go elsewhere whilst we rely on the likes of Jack Cork and hope that Ki has his one good season in 4. |
Realistically 13m would be a huge chunk of the transfer funds gone on a position we are not crying out to strengthen. | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 21:53 - Jul 20 with 1698 views | Daggyjack |
Mario Gomez, who we have been linked with before, is not returning to Turkey due to the political unrest.
He is not wanted at Fiorentina, does not want to stay there so would be available relatively cheaply.
A proven goal scorer at a low price, albeit high wages no doubt, no brainer to me if we aren't looking to spend big. |  | | |
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| Transfer Thread on 21:53 - Jul 20 with 1697 views | Griffting |
| Transfer Thread on 21:32 - Jul 20 by Dr_Winston |
Fer, Ki, Britton & Cork. Enough decent cover there for two positions that spending £13m is simply a reckless use of finite transfer cash. At £8m or so then signing Allen might be worthwhile. If Liverpool want most of their money back on a player they clearly don't want anymore then some other mug can pay it.
If we're going to be spending eight figures on someone this summer it needs to be a striker, or goalscoring winger.
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I feel this is a Bony esque break the bank type year where two, maybe even three players are needed in that type of region, that are proven quality and will help us progress with the likes of Stoke, soton and the teams around us. Sure up the spine. Opinions all differ and when I look at those midfield options I feel were missing that player at the heart of the midfield to make everything tick on a consistent basis. I feel Allen would provide that. That's how I feel anyways. I've got no doubt he would go and be excellent for Stoke and worth the money. |  | | |
| Transfer Thread on 21:53 - Jul 20 with 1690 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Transfer Thread on 21:48 - Jul 20 by Dr_Winston |
It's amazing how quickly a player can go from "We f*cking mugged Liverpool off for £15m!" to "Oh God! Oh God! we have to pay £13m for Joe!" after one international tournament.
Allen is a good player. I won't even argue that he'd be an improvement on what we have. I just don't see spending £13m on a player in the last year of his contract and who his current club don't want as something we desperately need to do. |
Well personally I've never said we mugged them off for £15m - I don't think we've ever really adequately replaced him. DeGuzman and Ki have had their moments, the latter fleetingly.
I'm also not sure what the issue is with paying £13m for a player who we know will fit seamlessly into the side and is a big upgrade on what we have. His worth is what sides are willing to pay for him and if we leave him go to stoke for only £1m or so more than we got for JJS then we deserve to struggle next season | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 21:55 - Jul 20 with 1680 views | veng9 |
| Transfer Thread on 21:49 - Jul 20 by mjingram13 |
I must admit the lack of movement in the transfer market....every other club seems to be buying we just haven't bothered. I know some of the prices are inflated,as they always seem to be after a major tournament, however we have to do something and quick........ |
Would you mind going through every other clubs CONFIRMED transfer business? Half the league is struggling to sign players at the moment. | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 21:57 - Jul 20 with 1666 views | Dr_Winston |
| Transfer Thread on 21:53 - Jul 20 by AngelRangelQS |
Well personally I've never said we mugged them off for £15m - I don't think we've ever really adequately replaced him. DeGuzman and Ki have had their moments, the latter fleetingly.
I'm also not sure what the issue is with paying £13m for a player who we know will fit seamlessly into the side and is a big upgrade on what we have. His worth is what sides are willing to pay for him and if we leave him go to stoke for only £1m or so more than we got for JJS then we deserve to struggle next season |
If we were crying out for another CM then I'd have no hesitation in suggesting we meet that valuation. We're not though.
How much realistically do you think we have to spend on players this summer? £30m tops? Do we really want to spend half that on Joe Allen when we still need at least one top quality striker and probably a winger too?
And de Guzman scored more goals in two seasons here than Joey has in his entire career thus far.
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| Transfer Thread on 22:00 - Jul 20 with 1636 views | skippyjack |
| Transfer Thread on 21:48 - Jul 20 by Dr_Winston |
It's amazing how quickly a player can go from "We f*cking mugged Liverpool off for £15m!" to "Oh God! Oh God! we have to pay £13m for Joe!" after one international tournament.
Allen is a good player. I won't even argue that he'd be an improvement on what we have. I just don't see spending £13m on a player in the last year of his contract and who his current club don't want as something we desperately need to do. |
Joe Allen has the necessary expertise that is required in our fight for survival.. because he dictates games from the bench, his goal ratio is superb, his assist count is through the roof, and his discipline is clearly top notch.
13 million is a f*cking bargain mun.. what have we got to lose? Our Premier League place?
f*cking ell.. We don't know if the Americans are in control of our club yet.. never mind the transfer budget..
which is probably 25 million, which 6 million has already been spent. |  |
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| Transfer Thread on 22:00 - Jul 20 with 1628 views | therealme |
30 million! If we're lucky!
If we had 30 mil then Joe for 13 would be a no brainer. Transfer budget nearer 15m would be my guess |  |
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| Transfer Thread on 22:01 - Jul 20 with 1608 views | stid |
| Transfer Thread on 22:00 - Jul 20 by therealme |
30 million! If we're lucky!
If we had 30 mil then Joe for 13 would be a no brainer. Transfer budget nearer 15m would be my guess |
15m wouldnt get us a decent Championship ST | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 22:03 - Jul 20 with 1589 views | Jango |
Why not just use the money from the shelvey transfer and buy him! Surely we would have had a transfer budget regardless of whether shelvey was sold or not. We never invested the bony money and now aren't investing the shelvey money either. | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 22:05 - Jul 20 with 1574 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Transfer Thread on 21:57 - Jul 20 by Dr_Winston |
If we were crying out for another CM then I'd have no hesitation in suggesting we meet that valuation. We're not though.
How much realistically do you think we have to spend on players this summer? £30m tops? Do we really want to spend half that on Joe Allen when we still need at least one top quality striker and probably a winger too?
And de Guzman scored more goals in two seasons here than Joey has in his entire career thus far.
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I have no idea how much we have to spend and I see your point but arguably the central midfield positions are as key as anywhere else. You've been telling anyone who will listen that the problem has been the way we are playing, our lack of spark, lack of creativity and Joe Allen can bring all of those things.
It's no good spending £15m on a striker with a crap midfield which I'm sorry to say Britton-Fer-Cork and Ki are - probably the worst collective central midfield in the division.
If you're talking transfer budget, why have we spent money on a fourth choice centre back, a bang average central midfielder and a fourth f*cking keeper and sold all our strikers? Absolutely mental so far | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 22:06 - Jul 20 with 1575 views | magicdaps10 |
Honestly some on here!!
13M for a player of immense quality, a good age and was just in the Euro 2016 team of the tournament. As someone as stated, that is 1M more than what Newcastle paid for Shelvey.
If we want to progress, lets not forget that our current board have said they sold their shares for this new lot to progress us on and off the field then we must be looking to break the 10M barrier once again but not just for 1 player but for 3 if not possibly 4 players. We are playing with the big boys now and their protein intake as just got bigger of the back of the new TV money intake. | |
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| Transfer Thread on 22:09 - Jul 20 with 1541 views | veng9 |
| Transfer Thread on 22:05 - Jul 20 by AngelRangelQS |
I have no idea how much we have to spend and I see your point but arguably the central midfield positions are as key as anywhere else. You've been telling anyone who will listen that the problem has been the way we are playing, our lack of spark, lack of creativity and Joe Allen can bring all of those things.
It's no good spending £15m on a striker with a crap midfield which I'm sorry to say Britton-Fer-Cork and Ki are - probably the worst collective central midfield in the division.
If you're talking transfer budget, why have we spent money on a fourth choice centre back, a bang average central midfielder and a fourth f*cking keeper and sold all our strikers? Absolutely mental so far |
Sorry there's no way we're near the worst midfield in the division. | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 22:10 - Jul 20 with 1535 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Transfer Thread on 22:06 - Jul 20 by magicdaps10 |
Honestly some on here!!
13M for a player of immense quality, a good age and was just in the Euro 2016 team of the tournament. As someone as stated, that is 1M more than what Newcastle paid for Shelvey.
If we want to progress, lets not forget that our current board have said they sold their shares for this new lot to progress us on and off the field then we must be looking to break the 10M barrier once again but not just for 1 player but for 3 if not possibly 4 players. We are playing with the big boys now and their protein intake as just got bigger of the back of the new TV money intake. |
We've also recouped around £12m in transfer fees this summer. Plus the £12m for JJS last January. £30m this summer would be a net spend on transfers this season of around £13m | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 22:11 - Jul 20 with 1506 views | Dr_Winston |
| Transfer Thread on 22:05 - Jul 20 by AngelRangelQS |
I have no idea how much we have to spend and I see your point but arguably the central midfield positions are as key as anywhere else. You've been telling anyone who will listen that the problem has been the way we are playing, our lack of spark, lack of creativity and Joe Allen can bring all of those things.
It's no good spending £15m on a striker with a crap midfield which I'm sorry to say Britton-Fer-Cork and Ki are - probably the worst collective central midfield in the division.
If you're talking transfer budget, why have we spent money on a fourth choice centre back, a bang average central midfielder and a fourth f*cking keeper and sold all our strikers? Absolutely mental so far |
Removing Monk and installing someone competent can bring all those things too. I was always pretty clear about where I thought the blame lay, and it wasn't with the players.
I'm sorry, but I can't get on board with the narrative that a central midfield which competed well enough last season has suddenly become shite just because people want to sign Joe Allen.
We've spent money on another CB because, I'd suggest, that four players for two positions is really what you need in the Premier League.
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| Transfer Thread on 22:12 - Jul 20 with 1496 views | therealme |
| Transfer Thread on 22:01 - Jul 20 by stid |
15m wouldnt get us a decent Championship ST |
Not true
There's a lorry load of hidden gems out there, just need to scout well | |
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| Transfer Thread on 22:14 - Jul 20 with 1470 views | dobjack2 |
| Transfer Thread on 22:06 - Jul 20 by magicdaps10 |
Honestly some on here!!
13M for a player of immense quality, a good age and was just in the Euro 2016 team of the tournament. As someone as stated, that is 1M more than what Newcastle paid for Shelvey.
If we want to progress, lets not forget that our current board have said they sold their shares for this new lot to progress us on and off the field then we must be looking to break the 10M barrier once again but not just for 1 player but for 3 if not possibly 4 players. We are playing with the big boys now and their protein intake as just got bigger of the back of the new TV money intake. |
This is make or break for the board and the sellers.
The reason given for the sale is that they couldn't take us further and we wouldn't be able to compete with comparative teams.
If we can't compete with teams like Stoke in the transfer market who are comparative to us what was the point of the share shale for anyone other than the shareholders. | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 22:16 - Jul 20 with 1450 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Transfer Thread on 22:11 - Jul 20 by Dr_Winston |
Removing Monk and installing someone competent can bring all those things too. I was always pretty clear about where I thought the blame lay, and it wasn't with the players.
I'm sorry, but I can't get on board with the narrative that a central midfield which competed well enough last season has suddenly become shite just because people want to sign Joe Allen.
We've spent money on another CB because, I'd suggest, that four players for two positions is really what you need in the Premier League.
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If you think that Jack Cork and Leroy Fer can be relied upon across a premier league season along with Ki and an aging Leon (sorry Leon) then we are never going to agree on this.
We didn't look much better going forward under Guidolin. It was only Gylfi's form that kept us up IMO and getting rid of that waste of space Shelvey. Let's see if Guidolin changes from the tried and tested diamond next season - it's not like he hasn't played it in the two preseason games | | | |
| Transfer Thread on 22:22 - Jul 20 with 1418 views | stid |
| Transfer Thread on 22:14 - Jul 20 by dobjack2 |
This is make or break for the board and the sellers.
The reason given for the sale is that they couldn't take us further and we wouldn't be able to compete with comparative teams.
If we can't compete with teams like Stoke in the transfer market who are comparative to us what was the point of the share shale for anyone other than the shareholders. |
You are forgetting that he has 1 year to run?...13m for a player with 1 year left would be shocking business | | | |
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