| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year 00:08 - Apr 22 with 9369 views | Glyn1 |
That's according to the Labour Party anyway. Apparently that puts you in the top 5 per cent of wage earners in this country. Sounds right to me but people on Radio 5 have been whinging that they get that and are just average. Struggling in fact. Any thoughts? |  |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 12:59 - Apr 22 with 870 views | waynekerr55 |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 00:30 - Apr 22 by perchrockjack |
Paul
Look around the London swans
I d be staggered if theyvwerentvearning that
70 k rich?
Feck me
Jez clearly rich then
Rich is when you don't have to work |
I'm not on 70 bags a year... |  |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 13:59 - Apr 22 with 828 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 10:38 - Apr 22 by epaul |
The sun, the mail preach envy and hate, JC hadn't made the housing market what it is, that goes back to you know who and then this current govt/ successive govts who alow private landlords drive up prices to ridiculous prices, I for one don't envy youngsters today starting out in the housing market.
At least JC is prepared to take this on and at least try to make housing affordable |
It's a pity there wasn't more E Paul's in this world .
£70,000
Your well off
Very well off .
To say otherwise is clueless
Very clueless |  |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 14:18 - Apr 22 with 812 views | E20Jack |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 13:59 - Apr 22 by oh_tommy_tommy |
It's a pity there wasn't more E Paul's in this world .
£70,000
Your well off
Very well off .
To say otherwise is clueless
Very clueless |
Well off isn't rich though is it. ''Rich'' was the word used here.
48k a year after tax. More than a quarter of that is rent for a year in London. Another quarter would be bills, council tax and food.
Means you will probably be able to put away £1500 into savings each month and live comfortably. If you are paying for a family then more like £500 a month to put away into savings.
Its hardly rich. Better off than a lot of people yes. But having to save 2 years solid before earning an average Premier League footballers 7 day wage doesn't constitute as rich to me. |  |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 14:18 - Apr 22 with 809 views | perchrockjack |
If you ve five kids, you re not.
You ll have a mortgage etc
You could be earning lots less but have less outgoing so
It's all about debt and living within one s means |  |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 14:21 - Apr 22 with 804 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 14:18 - Apr 22 by perchrockjack |
If you ve five kids, you re not.
You ll have a mortgage etc
You could be earning lots less but have less outgoing so
It's all about debt and living within one s means |
Indeed perch
Live within your means .
70k a year
Your rich to enjoy life
Your much richer if you have good health | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 14:30 - Apr 22 with 789 views | perchrockjack |
Ive earned good money but spent wisely . We decided thirty years ago to live in a modest house in a nice area rather than the large house we had .
We be never gone into debt . Mortgage was based on what I earned
We had kids only when we could afford them
Too many have them and hope | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:30 - Apr 22 with 741 views | MrSwansea |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 11:02 - Apr 22 by treboethjack |
I'd f*cking love 70k! I'm living off around 1.2K a month between me and my missus trying to keep a roof over our heads. We both work too. |
You want to up your hours mate | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:36 - Apr 22 with 734 views | rock1n |
This is why I can never be a supporter of labour or socialist politics and why I'll remain centrist liberal.
The mentality on this thread is full of spite and envy. Someone earning 70k a year is either in the S.East and pretty much getting by or they're someone who has done well in life, worked hard and paid a lot of tax in the system. Probably minimal use of the State so therefore a net benefit.
I want more people to be earning good money, I want people to succeed in life and be encouraged to succeed. I don't want this constant mentality of trying to drag everyone down to your level.
Labour will never get it, people to get on in life - that doesn't make them evil, it makes them hard working and want the best for their family. [Post edited 22 Apr 2017 17:36]
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:43 - Apr 22 with 725 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:36 - Apr 22 by rock1n |
This is why I can never be a supporter of labour or socialist politics and why I'll remain centrist liberal.
The mentality on this thread is full of spite and envy. Someone earning 70k a year is either in the S.East and pretty much getting by or they're someone who has done well in life, worked hard and paid a lot of tax in the system. Probably minimal use of the State so therefore a net benefit.
I want more people to be earning good money, I want people to succeed in life and be encouraged to succeed. I don't want this constant mentality of trying to drag everyone down to your level.
Labour will never get it, people to get on in life - that doesn't make them evil, it makes them hard working and want the best for their family. [Post edited 22 Apr 2017 17:36]
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I see no envy here
Do you really see envy
I see none . | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:43 - Apr 22 with 725 views | rock1n |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 00:13 - Apr 22 by epaul |
Makes me sick if people are struggling on 70 grand they want f*cking shooting c*nts, try living off JSA. Compared to what I earn they are rich [Post edited 22 Apr 2017 0:15]
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That would imply people are choosing JSA as a career choice.
Benefits are not meant to be anything more than a safety net. You keep to your politics mate labour will be less than 20% soon | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:43 - Apr 22 with 724 views | rock1n |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:43 - Apr 22 by oh_tommy_tommy |
I see no envy here
Do you really see envy
I see none . |
hahaha you're kidding me right | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:50 - Apr 22 with 716 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:43 - Apr 22 by rock1n |
hahaha you're kidding me right |
Show me ? | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:57 - Apr 22 with 705 views | rock1n |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:50 - Apr 22 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Show me ? |
The policy itself is envy, if you support it you're envious. You want to Rob Paul to pay Peter.
Grown up politics would state we having a funding crisis in the NHS and EVERYONE will have to pay more tax. That I can respect, that makes economic and social sense.
It's the tone of the replies like epaul in his usual articulate outburst that strikes the chord for me. | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:59 - Apr 22 with 698 views | perchrockjack |
Tomm
Corbin is promoting a class war of them and us, the haves and have nots.
I've a few nice things but not as many as others . I'm not envious . I'm quite content
Corbyn is setting people againgst people ,viz those who earn sY 20 k and those 70k.
I earned regularly over 75 k in my last employment . I earned far more than plod . I had no basic .
I earned every fookn penny
My lad earns big money too
We still have to budget accordingly but rich we ain't
Derek Hatton is rich though . He was a militant lefty labour man ,all for the working class , apparently
Liar
He was a big fan of corbyn and his beliefs | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:01 - Apr 22 with 695 views | rock1n |
It's also bad for productivity because many jobs these days have an incentive structure.
If you increase tax, you reduce incentive to work.
What does that equal less growth - less tax revenue.
Duh | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:06 - Apr 22 with 686 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:57 - Apr 22 by rock1n |
The policy itself is envy, if you support it you're envious. You want to Rob Paul to pay Peter.
Grown up politics would state we having a funding crisis in the NHS and EVERYONE will have to pay more tax. That I can respect, that makes economic and social sense.
It's the tone of the replies like epaul in his usual articulate outburst that strikes the chord for me. |
So you can't show me .
Perch I like you , I've never met you but your ok , your living in the past ,, you can't move on.
Peolple are f@cked. Some have 3 jobs just to survive.just to feed and clothe their kids .
Pack it in , you sound horrific
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:07 - Apr 22 with 685 views | perchrockjack |
Last job I had I worked hard up to the higher tax threshold then eased off .
If people are taxed thus then they will see little point in putting the effort in .
Classic socialism where the higher laid are crucified to subsidise lazy feckers who often don't work hard or long enough
Too many believe the world oshe's them a living
Too many believe the State should give them a Ouse keep their kids ...for life
What Corbyn should be suggesting is ending the Royal Largesse and have the civil list ,or whatever it is now, restricted to the Monarch and heir .
No more
They also do not need four palaces | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:18 - Apr 22 with 667 views | treboethjack |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:30 - Apr 22 by MrSwansea |
You want to up your hours mate |
I'm already doing 35+ most weeks. It's my misses hours that we need to go up, she only gets 12-16 hours a week and shes not able to more even though she wants to and as we're under 25 we're not entitled to any help that we would be were we over 25. |  |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:23 - Apr 22 with 658 views | epaul |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 17:57 - Apr 22 by rock1n |
The policy itself is envy, if you support it you're envious. You want to Rob Paul to pay Peter.
Grown up politics would state we having a funding crisis in the NHS and EVERYONE will have to pay more tax. That I can respect, that makes economic and social sense.
It's the tone of the replies like epaul in his usual articulate outburst that strikes the chord for me. |
Absolute rubbish, I certainly don't condone living off JSA as a career choice , I agree it's a safety net, , I've worked since I was 11 years old starting with paper rounds, I've got 7 more years of contributions to qualify for a full state pension.
I had no choice but to claim JSA once between jobs whilst actively seeking work. I think I'm quite right that someone complaining of struggle earning 70k a year is ridiculous when people are earning low incomes and having to use food banks and claim in work benefits, there's the tories for you, they've tarred all those out of work as benefit scroungers aided abd abeted by the right wing press. My JSA quote was just an example of what struggle can really be for some.
Whilst I don't mind paying more tax to help out those more genuinely needy and the NHS, how about we renationalise it seeing as so much of it has been given to the tories chums |  |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:27 - Apr 22 with 649 views | E20Jack |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:06 - Apr 22 by oh_tommy_tommy |
So you can't show me .
Perch I like you , I've never met you but your ok , your living in the past ,, you can't move on.
Peolple are f@cked. Some have 3 jobs just to survive.just to feed and clothe their kids .
Pack it in , you sound horrific
£75,000 |
You are highlighting the fact that some are on the bones of their arse and others are in a far better position. I don't think you will find anyone disagreeing.
But the question is ''does 48k after tax make you RICH''. Not if some people would love to be on that, not if 48k after tax is loads more than some... but does it make you rich.
No is the answer from people who earn it. | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:32 - Apr 22 with 645 views | Edmundo |
So if you've created a business,worked your socks off to set up the company, you then get punished for being successful.
Labour know how to hammer the creative types.....What's the point! |  |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:39 - Apr 22 with 634 views | blueytheblue |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:32 - Apr 22 by Edmundo |
So if you've created a business,worked your socks off to set up the company, you then get punished for being successful.
Labour know how to hammer the creative types.....What's the point! |
It's because none of them have ever really worked, for the most part.
Most go down the degree ( granted not an option in Corbyn's case ) followed by union soft job priming them for a job within Labour. There are exceptions sure... but look at Corbyn's son, Sebastian.
Employed as a researcher for John McDonnell. Worked on the leadership campaign for Corbyn Sr, getting paid for both roles. Labour now looking for a nice seat to parachute him into.
It's nice to see Labour practising that meritocracy Corbyn Sr claims to want... for other people's kids... | |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:42 - Apr 22 with 626 views | Groo |
Wow, 70K is rich, just wow.
It's not the wage you earn but the amount of floating cash you have at the end of the week that makes you rich.
Yes 70K is better than 35K which is better than the breadline but it's all relative.
70K would still mean a mortgage (a higher one in a nicer area perhaps), car loan and everything else that you have to pay for.
People on 70K can still struggle and the outgoing payments that needs to be serviced each month can still put excessive pressure on people and the absolute need to keep that job. Any change in status can mean disaster, just the same as any other people who maybe earn less. |  |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:47 - Apr 22 with 613 views | Jackfath |
I'm rich.
I'm healthy and happy with my life. |  |
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| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:52 - Apr 22 with 606 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| You're rich if you earn £70,000 a year on 18:42 - Apr 22 by Groo |
Wow, 70K is rich, just wow.
It's not the wage you earn but the amount of floating cash you have at the end of the week that makes you rich.
Yes 70K is better than 35K which is better than the breadline but it's all relative.
70K would still mean a mortgage (a higher one in a nicer area perhaps), car loan and everything else that you have to pay for.
People on 70K can still struggle and the outgoing payments that needs to be serviced each month can still put excessive pressure on people and the absolute need to keep that job. Any change in status can mean disaster, just the same as any other people who maybe earn less. |
£70 k & struggle
Your f@cking clueless
Are you
Martin
Or Huw .
Seriously
Where do You live [Post edited 22 Apr 2017 18:54]
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