| Immigration 09:44 - Feb 13 with 3640 views | johnlangy |
This is one of the most contentious issues at the moment and has been for years. Many people slag off the system including Immigration lawyers saying that they use the argument of Human Rights to prolong the time it takes for immigrants/asylum seekers to be processed. Some times it takes years. And during this process it costs us millions every day to provide for them. People also slag off the ECHR arguing that that is part of the problem in us trying to get rid of people who have no right to be here.
An Immigration lawyer was interviewed on TV this morning for his opinions. He started out in his job in 2000. He said at that tome there was a fast track system in place which meant people's claims were processed within a week. If they appealed it was stretched to two weeks. And the government were sending back each year around 33,000 immigrants to their home countries with whom we had a repatriation agreement. This all happened while we were part of the ECHR.
The Tories scrapped the Fast Track system. |  | | |  |
| Immigration on 22:50 - Feb 13 with 2329 views | majorraglan |
They’ve cut the number of staff processing the appeals etc and the system has disintegrated. If we had the staff to fast track people we’d save a fortune and get “wrong uns” out of the country. This in turn would create a less hostile environment for those who are genuine applicants. | | | |
| Immigration on 09:17 - Feb 14 with 2279 views | jojaca |
When you start to become the minority of your own country, you have been invaded. I like the recent report from Japan rejecting immigration - It's a peaceful prosperous country with longest life expectancy in the world, the lowest murder rate with little political conflict, it's a beautiful place, Japan still feels like Japan. |  |
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| Immigration on 09:45 - Feb 14 with 2264 views | felixstowe_jack |
Unfortunately back in 2000 the numbers of asylum seekers arriving in Europe was very small. A lot has happened since then including the new phenomenon of illegal economic migrants arriving in their millions in place like Greece, Spain and Italy. | |
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| Immigration on 09:55 - Feb 14 with 2255 views | onehunglow |
| Immigration on 09:45 - Feb 14 by felixstowe_jack |
Unfortunately back in 2000 the numbers of asylum seekers arriving in Europe was very small. A lot has happened since then including the new phenomenon of illegal economic migrants arriving in their millions in place like Greece, Spain and Italy. |
A very dangerous subject to discuss | |
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| Immigration on 11:16 - Feb 14 with 2235 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Immigration on 09:17 - Feb 14 by jojaca |
When you start to become the minority of your own country, you have been invaded. I like the recent report from Japan rejecting immigration - It's a peaceful prosperous country with longest life expectancy in the world, the lowest murder rate with little political conflict, it's a beautiful place, Japan still feels like Japan. |
I think another thing that seriously annoys people is that in a cost of living crisis where people are struggling to pay their bills, eat and heat their own homes the government is paying billions to put these criminals into five star hotels that the rest of us would have to pay £200 a night for. |  |
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| Immigration on 12:19 - Feb 14 with 2216 views | raynor94 |
| Immigration on 11:16 - Feb 14 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I think another thing that seriously annoys people is that in a cost of living crisis where people are struggling to pay their bills, eat and heat their own homes the government is paying billions to put these criminals into five star hotels that the rest of us would have to pay £200 a night for. |
£5.6 million a day housing illegals, truly a shocking figure, and authorities have no idea how many just disappear into the night. |  |
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| Immigration on 17:29 - Feb 14 with 2152 views | controversial_jack |
| Immigration on 12:19 - Feb 14 by raynor94 |
£5.6 million a day housing illegals, truly a shocking figure, and authorities have no idea how many just disappear into the night. |
They are asylum seekers not illegals. If they get refused asylum and stay here then they are illegals as no laws have been broken | | | |
| Immigration on 17:40 - Feb 14 with 2159 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Immigration on 17:29 - Feb 14 by controversial_jack |
They are asylum seekers not illegals. If they get refused asylum and stay here then they are illegals as no laws have been broken |
Apart from paying the huge amounts of money funding international criminal human trafficking rings that often send people to their deaths and cause untold misery. | |
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| Immigration on 19:01 - Feb 14 with 2129 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Immigration on 17:29 - Feb 14 by controversial_jack |
They are asylum seekers not illegals. If they get refused asylum and stay here then they are illegals as no laws have been broken |
If they enter the country illegally, they are illegal immigrants. Many knowingly enter illegally and only claim refugee or asylum seeker status when caught.
The genuine cases get caught up with the rest, they all get lumped together and treated the same.
A lot of illegal immigrants come here and disappear into the mist. They go and work for family and friends or even get involved in criminal activity, even if involuntarily. | | | |
| Immigration on 22:43 - Feb 14 with 2086 views | Kilkennyjack |
Got a lot worse since Brexit 🇬🇧 |  |
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| Immigration on 23:45 - Feb 14 with 2079 views | KeithHaynes |
| Immigration on 09:45 - Feb 14 by felixstowe_jack |
Unfortunately back in 2000 the numbers of asylum seekers arriving in Europe was very small. A lot has happened since then including the new phenomenon of illegal economic migrants arriving in their millions in place like Greece, Spain and Italy. |
They don’t stay in the south of Spain long at all, there’s very little here for them, it’s merely a transit route north. |  |
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| Immigration on 07:09 - Feb 15 with 2033 views | Gwyn737 |
| Immigration on 22:50 - Feb 13 by majorraglan |
They’ve cut the number of staff processing the appeals etc and the system has disintegrated. If we had the staff to fast track people we’d save a fortune and get “wrong uns” out of the country. This in turn would create a less hostile environment for those who are genuine applicants. |
Any attempt to solve the problem has to start with improving the processing.
Until that’s done all we’ll get is more impossible plans that stoke anger when they don’t work. | | | |
| Immigration on 07:15 - Feb 15 with 2031 views | Gwyn737 |
| Immigration on 09:17 - Feb 14 by jojaca |
When you start to become the minority of your own country, you have been invaded. I like the recent report from Japan rejecting immigration - It's a peaceful prosperous country with longest life expectancy in the world, the lowest murder rate with little political conflict, it's a beautiful place, Japan still feels like Japan. |
Yet they’re are allowing in more economic migrants than ever before.
They have an ageing population and a low birth rate so they’ve needed to allow people into the country to keep the economy going and seem to have managed it.
It’s such a hot potato here than even suggesting it is too tricky for politicians. | | | |
| Immigration on 08:36 - Feb 15 with 2003 views | waynekerr55 |
| Immigration on 12:19 - Feb 14 by raynor94 |
£5.6 million a day housing illegals, truly a shocking figure, and authorities have no idea how many just disappear into the night. |
They could take out the trafficking gangs at a fraction of the cost. Ask yourself why they don't.
On a serious note it requires coordinated international efforts which also require infrastructure investment in said countries to make the standard of living better. Again, it would be cheaper in the long run but nobody does anything. |  |
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| Immigration on 19:33 - Feb 15 with 1930 views | Kilkennyjack |
Another Brexit benefit ….. 🇬🇧 | |
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| Immigration on 22:40 - Feb 15 with 1890 views | majorraglan |
| Immigration on 09:45 - Feb 14 by felixstowe_jack |
Unfortunately back in 2000 the numbers of asylum seekers arriving in Europe was very small. A lot has happened since then including the new phenomenon of illegal economic migrants arriving in their millions in place like Greece, Spain and Italy. |
That may well be the case, but any sensible government would be undertaking “environmental scanning” and identifying issues, threats and risks early doors and taking action to mitigate the risk. It’s clearly that’s not been happening here for many years. Migration claims that the number of UK immigration enforcement staff assigned to tackling illegal entry into Britain has dropped and the budget cut - all while we’re getting huge numbers of people entering the country.
We’re getting plenty of talk the talk, but no walk the walk from government who are trying to gaslight us. | | | |
| Immigration on 09:36 - Feb 16 with 1851 views | waynekerr55 |
| Immigration on 11:16 - Feb 14 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I think another thing that seriously annoys people is that in a cost of living crisis where people are struggling to pay their bills, eat and heat their own homes the government is paying billions to put these criminals into five star hotels that the rest of us would have to pay £200 a night for. |
I strongly recommend taking out a Private Eye subscription. Some of the contracts handed out for this work are scandalous | |
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| Immigration on 13:38 - Feb 17 with 1759 views | Gwyn737 |
| Immigration on 09:36 - Feb 16 by waynekerr55 |
I strongly recommend taking out a Private Eye subscription. Some of the contracts handed out for this work are scandalous |
Here’s Ian Hislop putting it better than I ever could:
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| Immigration on 13:55 - Feb 17 with 1751 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Immigration on 17:29 - Feb 14 by controversial_jack |
They are asylum seekers not illegals. If they get refused asylum and stay here then they are illegals as no laws have been broken |
The vast majority are economic migrants. Genuine asylum seekers are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country they are in not travel halfway across Europe to get here.
It is illegal to enter the UK without passing through immigration at ports of entry.
Also many are from other safe European Countries like Albania and Romania. | |
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| Immigration on 17:09 - Feb 17 with 1710 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Immigration on 13:55 - Feb 17 by felixstowe_jack |
The vast majority are economic migrants. Genuine asylum seekers are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country they are in not travel halfway across Europe to get here.
It is illegal to enter the UK without passing through immigration at ports of entry.
Also many are from other safe European Countries like Albania and Romania. |
It’s also illegal to employ the services of nefarious people trafficking gangs. That’s the big one for me. A ticket on one of these boats can cost up to £20,000. The narrative that they are poor destitute people desperately fleeing for their lives is clearly and obviously a false one. | |
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| Immigration on 18:49 - Feb 17 with 1686 views | controversial_jack |
| Immigration on 13:55 - Feb 17 by felixstowe_jack |
The vast majority are economic migrants. Genuine asylum seekers are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country they are in not travel halfway across Europe to get here.
It is illegal to enter the UK without passing through immigration at ports of entry.
Also many are from other safe European Countries like Albania and Romania. |
They don't have to claim asylum in the first country they come to.
It's not illegal to cross the channel snd land on out shores. Yes, they have to report to immigration.
The majority do stay in those countries. We get off lightly as the other countries take in far morr | | | |
| Immigration on 19:55 - Feb 17 with 1667 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Immigration on 18:49 - Feb 17 by controversial_jack |
They don't have to claim asylum in the first country they come to.
It's not illegal to cross the channel snd land on out shores. Yes, they have to report to immigration.
The majority do stay in those countries. We get off lightly as the other countries take in far morr |
Is it illegal to pay criminals for their services? | |
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| Immigration on 20:33 - Feb 17 with 1645 views | controversial_jack |
| Immigration on 19:55 - Feb 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Is it illegal to pay criminals for their services? |
Yes, if you are paying for illegal setvices | | | |
| Immigration on 20:46 - Feb 17 with 1642 views | onehunglow |
This subject sees more hypocrisy than any other
People in private opine quite differently to what they do publicly | |
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| Immigration on 20:57 - Feb 17 with 1631 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Immigration on 20:46 - Feb 17 by onehunglow |
This subject sees more hypocrisy than any other
People in private opine quite differently to what they do publicly |
How do you know ?
More crossing since Brexit and spring approaching …. 🤣
We left the Dublin Agreement ….. so cant send them back to the safe EU country from which they came ….. 🇬🇧 …. When in EU we could ..
Our Leaders have been quite useless. | |
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