| This Corbyn Speech 13:26 - Feb 26 with 4152 views | Darran |
He's struggling big time. |  |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 13:46 - Feb 26 with 1108 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Full employment and an economy that works for all
A secure homes guarantee
Security at work
Secure our NHS and social care
Put the public back into our economy and services
To name but a few
I'd vote for that
You ? |  |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 13:49 - Feb 26 with 1102 views | Darran |
| This Corbyn Speech on 13:46 - Feb 26 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Full employment and an economy that works for all
A secure homes guarantee
Security at work
Secure our NHS and social care
Put the public back into our economy and services
To name but a few
I'd vote for that
You ? |
Tom you're deluded mate he's living in cloud cuckoo land. | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 13:51 - Feb 26 with 1092 views | rock1n |
| This Corbyn Speech on 13:46 - Feb 26 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Full employment and an economy that works for all
A secure homes guarantee
Security at work
Secure our NHS and social care
Put the public back into our economy and services
To name but a few
I'd vote for that
You ? |
I love the way you put that list down and suggest it's like a click of the fingers and it'll all be sorted.
If Corbyn was in we'd have sky high unemployment because the private sector would be decimated.
We wouldn't have the revenues to fund his public sector expansion.
This is always the left wing problem, it's all platitudes we would all like another 50bn spent on NHS, 50 quid min wage etc etc
It's just not easy to actually have these things in reality |  |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 13:53 - Feb 26 with 1085 views | rock1n |
He's hopeless, only hanging around so that another left winger is able to take over.
People need to move on from labour now, it's a dead party. | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:00 - Feb 26 with 1071 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This Corbyn Speech on 13:49 - Feb 26 by Darran |
Tom you're deluded mate he's living in cloud cuckoo land. |
Don't want that then Daz ,no? | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:02 - Feb 26 with 1068 views | blueytheblue |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:00 - Feb 26 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Don't want that then Daz ,no? |
Lol.
Tommy, the problem is Corbyn can offer free unicorns to everyone; cupcakes with sprinkles on.
The problem is it's easy for Corbyn to issue promises that sound really, really good without having to do silly little things like costing them. Save the NHS is the rallying cry. Well the Labour run HS is Wales is really fantastic... |  |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:02 - Feb 26 with 1068 views | Darran |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:00 - Feb 26 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Don't want that then Daz ,no? |
We all want them Tom,each and everyone of us. | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:05 - Feb 26 with 1064 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This Corbyn Speech on 13:51 - Feb 26 by rock1n |
I love the way you put that list down and suggest it's like a click of the fingers and it'll all be sorted.
If Corbyn was in we'd have sky high unemployment because the private sector would be decimated.
We wouldn't have the revenues to fund his public sector expansion.
This is always the left wing problem, it's all platitudes we would all like another 50bn spent on NHS, 50 quid min wage etc etc
It's just not easy to actually have these things in reality |
Left problem eh.
No its our country's problem
That's the biggest problem in this country
Right wing
Left wing
Conservative
Sociaslt
We are all socialists | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:07 - Feb 26 with 1059 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:02 - Feb 26 by Darran |
We all want them Tom,each and everyone of us. |
You are a good man | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:09 - Feb 26 with 1057 views | blueytheblue |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:05 - Feb 26 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Left problem eh.
No its our country's problem
That's the biggest problem in this country
Right wing
Left wing
Conservative
Sociaslt
We are all socialists |
We are not all socialists, Tommy, don't be silly. | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:11 - Feb 26 with 1052 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:09 - Feb 26 by blueytheblue |
We are not all socialists, Tommy, don't be silly. |
Yes we are
Even you are blue, you f@cking odd ball 😠| |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:11 - Feb 26 with 1047 views | perchrockjack |
Ive seen and heard this Labpur drivel all my life
Full Employment ? Really
Security ?
Life is not secure
Insulting to decent people that this guy leads a political party | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:13 - Feb 26 with 1044 views | perchrockjack |
And guarantee..
Dear dear God
Nothing can be guaranteed | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:20 - Feb 26 with 1029 views | blueytheblue |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:11 - Feb 26 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Yes we are
Even you are blue, you f@cking odd ball 😠|
Errm, rubbish Tommy old chap.
It's interesting that the left no longer seem to mention Venezuela these days. I thought that was a socialist paradise? Ok, the odd inconvenient human rights issues occurred but hey ho. Owen Jones in particular used to loved bigging up Venezuela. Ironic given as a gay "journalist" he'd not be a particularly welcome demographic there on several grounds... | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:21 - Feb 26 with 1029 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:13 - Feb 26 by perchrockjack |
And guarantee..
Dear dear God
Nothing can be guaranteed |
Not a social!ist then PeRchie? | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:25 - Feb 26 with 1024 views | rock1n |
Tommy you're a well meaning dreamer.
Look at Venezuala ffs, it's a basket case. Corbyn was lauding Chavez not long ago.
To say everyone is a socialist is laughable as well, many people do actually want to have ambition and get on in life. We don't want the State telling us how to live or to regulate how we live our lives.
If you're a decent person you want to care for those less fortunate etc but that doesn't necessarily mean you believe the State has all the answers, it doesn't.
Bottom line is socialism has been tried everywhere and failed everywhere. When will you realise this, probably never.
Corbyn is unpopular with the public because overall the public is not stupid and realises things have to paid for. That's why he doesn't want power because he'd have to actually implement what he has proposed and it wouldn't be possible. [Post edited 26 Feb 2017 14:26]
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:29 - Feb 26 with 1005 views | perchrockjack |
Indeed not
I believe one should be rewarded on ability and not kept by the state
I was put off by socialism after I became good friends with an east Berliner
We re still in touch forth five years later
It was the DDR
Old fashioned socialism where the means of production are controlled by the state which controls the people.
Nope, no socialist, but that said ,I'm not scum either because I'm not | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:34 - Feb 26 with 1000 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
There are different types of socialism & hard line socialism isn't a way forward as per this country thousands of mi!es away which has nothing to do with Labours current manifesto .
If you believe cutting social care for the people who need it ,then you lot carry on voting for whoever you vote for.
And yes blue , roickin you are socialists ,if not what ? | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:36 - Feb 26 with 993 views | Dr_Winston |
I suspect that his long associations with terrorists and anti-Semites probably don't do much for Corbyn's popularity either. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:37 - Feb 26 with 989 views | dailew |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:25 - Feb 26 by rock1n |
Tommy you're a well meaning dreamer.
Look at Venezuala ffs, it's a basket case. Corbyn was lauding Chavez not long ago.
To say everyone is a socialist is laughable as well, many people do actually want to have ambition and get on in life. We don't want the State telling us how to live or to regulate how we live our lives.
If you're a decent person you want to care for those less fortunate etc but that doesn't necessarily mean you believe the State has all the answers, it doesn't.
Bottom line is socialism has been tried everywhere and failed everywhere. When will you realise this, probably never.
Corbyn is unpopular with the public because overall the public is not stupid and realises things have to paid for. That's why he doesn't want power because he'd have to actually implement what he has proposed and it wouldn't be possible. [Post edited 26 Feb 2017 14:26]
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"Bottom line is socialism has been tried everywhere and failed everywhere. When will you realise this, probably never. "
What aload of rubbish.
Look at countries like Germany, Austria, and the Scandinavian countries.
Socialist countries by a ll counts with state owned utilities and railways, strong trade unions, and fantastic universal health care systems.
Life for an ordinary Joe in those is of a far better quality than their equivalent in the US or UK.
Yet still their economies are in far better shape than the UK or US. Lower deficits, less private and public debt, and some even have trade surpluses ! UK hasn't had one of those since the awful days of Old Labor.
And citing Venezuela as an example of why socialism fails is just as dull as using a country like Somalia or Congo as an example of a country with a low tax take and a small state [Post edited 26 Feb 2017 14:38]
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:38 - Feb 26 with 986 views | nice_to_michu |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:02 - Feb 26 by blueytheblue |
Lol.
Tommy, the problem is Corbyn can offer free unicorns to everyone; cupcakes with sprinkles on.
The problem is it's easy for Corbyn to issue promises that sound really, really good without having to do silly little things like costing them. Save the NHS is the rallying cry. Well the Labour run HS is Wales is really fantastic... |
Yeh, it's not bad actually. It has its good points and it's bad points.
The difference being of course that the WAG has a finite amount that it can spend, whilst the Weatminister govt can always plug the gaps in times of crisis (although I concede that they have been reluctant to do so with Hunt at the helm).
Blanket statements about the Labour-run NHS in Wales will never give an accurate reflection of what's going on. |  | | |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:38 - Feb 26 with 982 views | perchrockjack |
Indeed
I'm sure those who ve had family friends killed see him as a terrorist appeaser.
A Jew hater no doubt
Basically ,political scum | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:41 - Feb 26 with 971 views | nice_to_michu |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:37 - Feb 26 by dailew |
"Bottom line is socialism has been tried everywhere and failed everywhere. When will you realise this, probably never. "
What aload of rubbish.
Look at countries like Germany, Austria, and the Scandinavian countries.
Socialist countries by a ll counts with state owned utilities and railways, strong trade unions, and fantastic universal health care systems.
Life for an ordinary Joe in those is of a far better quality than their equivalent in the US or UK.
Yet still their economies are in far better shape than the UK or US. Lower deficits, less private and public debt, and some even have trade surpluses ! UK hasn't had one of those since the awful days of Old Labor.
And citing Venezuela as an example of why socialism fails is just as dull as using a country like Somalia or Congo as an example of a country with a low tax take and a small state [Post edited 26 Feb 2017 14:38]
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You made some great points there.
Rock1n analysis of socialism is a little basic, to say the least. | | | |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:42 - Feb 26 with 967 views | blueytheblue |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:38 - Feb 26 by nice_to_michu |
Yeh, it's not bad actually. It has its good points and it's bad points.
The difference being of course that the WAG has a finite amount that it can spend, whilst the Weatminister govt can always plug the gaps in times of crisis (although I concede that they have been reluctant to do so with Hunt at the helm).
Blanket statements about the Labour-run NHS in Wales will never give an accurate reflection of what's going on. |
There's a lot of bad points. Just people don't want to see them.
Whilst you're right that WAG has a finite amount, let's not forget the Labour run WAG ( the Labour party who routinely peddle "X days to save NHS" ) cut the NHS budget over and above existing cuts, freeing up money to be used elsewhere. No doubt on some useless vanity project here in Cardiff.
Labour stooges like Polly Toynbee scraped the barrel in terms of defending performance - ludicrously claiming at one point there were more hospital deaths in Wales due to Wales having no hospices. She had to backtrack on that one. | |
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| This Corbyn Speech on 14:45 - Feb 26 with 962 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This Corbyn Speech on 14:42 - Feb 26 by blueytheblue |
There's a lot of bad points. Just people don't want to see them.
Whilst you're right that WAG has a finite amount, let's not forget the Labour run WAG ( the Labour party who routinely peddle "X days to save NHS" ) cut the NHS budget over and above existing cuts, freeing up money to be used elsewhere. No doubt on some useless vanity project here in Cardiff.
Labour stooges like Polly Toynbee scraped the barrel in terms of defending performance - ludicrously claiming at one point there were more hospital deaths in Wales due to Wales having no hospices. She had to backtrack on that one. |
Another problem with this country ,using the NHS as a political football.
Do you use the NHS blue? | |
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