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But Stephan seems to be getting a lot out of many different players and the whole squad seem more together and all are playing their part.
With Marti Cifuentes coming to HQ with his team of supposedly greater quality and depth, it will be interesting to see how that game pans out. Marti was more bristle, whereas it seems Stephan is more laid back and encouraging as a man manager, and when we have not performed, he does highlight this and is keen for players to react.
The goal conceded yesterday and we immediately went on the offensive and we believed we could still turn it round. I think you can see a lot of players are now enjoying playing for us and they all are motivated and want to do well and know their roles too.
The forum earlier this season, when Christian Nourry was waffling big time, I liked Stephan's response. "He is the boss." To me, it did seem like a tongue in cheek comment, in that he seems to know how to deal with different characters and not just those on the pitch. And a bit of light heartedness can go a long way in football.
I think it's time, we gave the manager some kudos.
Julien Stephan - He is doing quite well !!!! on 08:53 - Dec 11 by TK1
Ian Holloway didn't really struggle at other clubs after us overall, though - in fact he was probably more successful elsewhere. He took both Blackpool and Palace to the Premier League, incredible over-achievements (two Championship play-off finals with Blackpool is amazing work). He had a few misfires over a 25 year career but he's always come back more successfully elsewhere, eg Swindon now. Just a really, really good EFL manager. Less good at PR than Warnock, but just as successful in his own way.
Who are the other managers who've left QPR and then succeeded elsewhere? Struggling to think of them. Overall, I think it's more that QPR don't often appoint very good or suitable managers. In Cifuentes they got a good one and in Stephan they have another, one who looks to my eyes like a subtle upgrade.
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Terry Venables. Barcelona.
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Julien Stephan - He is doing quite well !!!! on 10:37 - Dec 11 with 400 views
Julien Stephan - He is doing quite well !!!! on 09:53 - Dec 11 by dutch
Terry Venables. Barcelona.
Yes, obviously Venables. Jim Smith also had big success with Derby.
But I was really pointing to managers this century! So...
Ian Holloway's success after leaving us has been notable (yes, Dave B, he was unsuccessful briefly at Millwall, Leicester, Grimsby - but two PL promotions mitigate that, as will Swindon if they go up having been bottom when he took over.)
Paulo Sousa has been very busy since leaving, but not a roaring success anywhere other than Switzerland.
Warncock got Palace promoted after us, but he's an outlier given how many he's managed.
QPR have a very good record for ending management careers, really.
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Julien Stephan - He is doing quite well !!!! on 11:42 - Dec 11 with 308 views
Julien Stephan - He is doing quite well !!!! on 10:37 - Dec 11 by TK1
Yes, obviously Venables. Jim Smith also had big success with Derby.
But I was really pointing to managers this century! So...
Ian Holloway's success after leaving us has been notable (yes, Dave B, he was unsuccessful briefly at Millwall, Leicester, Grimsby - but two PL promotions mitigate that, as will Swindon if they go up having been bottom when he took over.)
Paulo Sousa has been very busy since leaving, but not a roaring success anywhere other than Switzerland.
Warncock got Palace promoted after us, but he's an outlier given how many he's managed.
QPR have a very good record for ending management careers, really.
Warnock never got Palace promoted. His second spell there in 2014 ended after four months. Holloway got Palace promoted to the PL via the play offs in 2013 where they've been ever since.
After managing us, Warnock has got Cardiff promoted to the PL.
Julien Stephan - He is doing quite well !!!! on 11:42 - Dec 11 by CamberleyR
Warnock never got Palace promoted. His second spell there in 2014 ended after four months. Holloway got Palace promoted to the PL via the play offs in 2013 where they've been ever since.
After managing us, Warnock has got Cardiff promoted to the PL.
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