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Andy Burnham 11:09 - Oct 8 with 8733 viewsBoundy

Will possible exceed Starmer as being the worst PM we've ever had , todays announcement by him on X

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Andy Burnham on 17:27 - Oct 30 with 473 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Andy Burnham on 17:20 - Oct 30 by Gwyn737

It’s awful.

I’m glad that the numbers doing it are 40% down.


Can't celebrate letting in 10s of thousands people of unknown background.

This country is a gutless.

Just buy a few hundred coastguard boats and pick them up and return then them to the unsafe country that is France.

We send 10s of Billions to Ukraine but we can't manage the English Channel, we are all being played big time.

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Andy Burnham on 18:08 - Oct 30 with 434 viewsbuilthjack

How many went to Rwanda?

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Andy Burnham on 19:09 - Oct 30 with 402 viewsAnotherJohn

Andy Burnham on 18:08 - Oct 30 by builthjack

How many went to Rwanda?


The scbeme was nipped in the bud. But an interesting question is: how many went to the Republic of Ireland when they heard the policy was coming in? The Irish Government was certainly in a panic.
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Andy Burnham on 19:29 - Oct 30 with 387 viewsGwyn737

Andy Burnham on 17:27 - Oct 30 by JACKMANANDBOY

Can't celebrate letting in 10s of thousands people of unknown background.

This country is a gutless.

Just buy a few hundred coastguard boats and pick them up and return then them to the unsafe country that is France.

We send 10s of Billions to Ukraine but we can't manage the English Channel, we are all being played big time.


If only it were so simple.
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Andy Burnham on 20:56 - Oct 30 with 345 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Andy Burnham on 19:29 - Oct 30 by Gwyn737

If only it were so simple.


It is if we had the guts.

We could have gone ahead with the Rwanda scheme if we had our interests at heart. Who's going to cross the channel to end up I. Rwanda?
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Andy Burnham on 21:12 - Oct 30 with 333 viewsmax936

Andy Burnham on 17:27 - Oct 30 by JACKMANANDBOY

Can't celebrate letting in 10s of thousands people of unknown background.

This country is a gutless.

Just buy a few hundred coastguard boats and pick them up and return then them to the unsafe country that is France.

We send 10s of Billions to Ukraine but we can't manage the English Channel, we are all being played big time.


Excellent post JMaB
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Andy Burnham on 21:13 - Oct 30 with 332 viewsBoundy

Andy Burnham on 20:56 - Oct 30 by JACKMANANDBOY

It is if we had the guts.

We could have gone ahead with the Rwanda scheme if we had our interests at heart. Who's going to cross the channel to end up I. Rwanda?
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They haven't the guts and this is just a continuation of Blairs plan even though he blustered when cornerd :

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne

https://www.dailymail.com/news

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Andy Burnham on 21:14 - Oct 30 with 332 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Andy Burnham on 21:12 - Oct 30 by max936

Excellent post JMaB


You won't see this in the Guardian. This is what we are granting asylum to. The lefty loons have excelled themselves

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/

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Andy Burnham on 21:30 - Oct 30 with 321 viewsBoundy

Andy Burnham on 21:14 - Oct 30 by JACKMANANDBOY

You won't see this in the Guardian. This is what we are granting asylum to. The lefty loons have excelled themselves

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/

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"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Andy Burnham on 21:34 - Oct 30 with 318 viewsGwyn737

Andy Burnham on 20:56 - Oct 30 by JACKMANANDBOY

It is if we had the guts.

We could have gone ahead with the Rwanda scheme if we had our interests at heart. Who's going to cross the channel to end up I. Rwanda?
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Tiny numbers of people and unworkable.

I go back to my original point that people who can’t say a 40% reduction is a good thing is ideological.

Those who want warships in the ocean and gun turrets across the south coast need to come to terms with that fact that it won’t happen no matter who they vote for. Because it’s a bit mad.
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Andy Burnham on 21:37 - Oct 30 with 314 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Andy Burnham on 21:34 - Oct 30 by Gwyn737

Tiny numbers of people and unworkable.

I go back to my original point that people who can’t say a 40% reduction is a good thing is ideological.

Those who want warships in the ocean and gun turrets across the south coast need to come to terms with that fact that it won’t happen no matter who they vote for. Because it’s a bit mad.


How many more of these do you want in Gwyn ?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/

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Andy Burnham on 21:41 - Oct 30 with 306 viewsAnotherJohn

Andy Burnham on 21:37 - Oct 30 by JACKMANANDBOY

How many more of these do you want in Gwyn ?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/


It just gets worse. Mahmood has some good headline policies, but the PLP will make it impossible to get a real grip on the problem.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news
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Andy Burnham on 21:45 - Oct 30 with 298 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Andy Burnham on 21:41 - Oct 30 by AnotherJohn

It just gets worse. Mahmood has some good headline policies, but the PLP will make it impossible to get a real grip on the problem.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news


These kinds of charities funding Hamas?

https://www.gov.uk/government/

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Andy Burnham on 21:50 - Oct 30 with 284 viewsGwyn737

Andy Burnham on 21:37 - Oct 30 by JACKMANANDBOY

How many more of these do you want in Gwyn ?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/


These are terrible.

Reducing the number of entrants by 40% is a good thing. Both thoughts are possible.

At no point have I supported illegal immigration.
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Andy Burnham on 21:52 - Oct 30 with 280 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Andy Burnham on 21:50 - Oct 30 by Gwyn737

These are terrible.

Reducing the number of entrants by 40% is a good thing. Both thoughts are possible.

At no point have I supported illegal immigration.


You avoided the question, how many more of these do you want to let in?

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Andy Burnham on 22:36 - Oct 30 with 257 viewsGwyn737

Andy Burnham on 21:52 - Oct 30 by JACKMANANDBOY

You avoided the question, how many more of these do you want to let in?


None.

But it is far more difficult to achieve than many of our politicians pretend and 40% reduction is a good thing.

Taking the stance that no measure is good until that figure I zero is an admirable target but not realistic.

I’d bet if Reform were in power and in their first year they knocked thousands of the figure, many of those disparaging Labour would be shouting it from the rooftops.

It’s no secret what I think of Reform, but I will say they have challenged the establishment, given a section of society a voice and encouraged more people to show and interest in politics. These are good things.

It’s a shame that some can see no good in a 40% reduction in boat crossings.
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Andy Burnham on 23:22 - Oct 30 with 227 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Andy Burnham on 22:36 - Oct 30 by Gwyn737

None.

But it is far more difficult to achieve than many of our politicians pretend and 40% reduction is a good thing.

Taking the stance that no measure is good until that figure I zero is an admirable target but not realistic.

I’d bet if Reform were in power and in their first year they knocked thousands of the figure, many of those disparaging Labour would be shouting it from the rooftops.

It’s no secret what I think of Reform, but I will say they have challenged the establishment, given a section of society a voice and encouraged more people to show and interest in politics. These are good things.

It’s a shame that some can see no good in a 40% reduction in boat crossings.
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I agree none, bearing in mind we have people chucking their passports and documentation into the sea the only logical conclusion is to stop them all or at the very least refuse entry to anyone we can't verify.

The 40 percent reduction is on a crap process that lets in terrorists and rapists like the case I posted. The process has to change, I cant be pleased about anything about it, to do otherwise would be to tolerate the intolerable.

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Andy Burnham on 08:28 - Oct 31 with 127 viewsGwyn737

Andy Burnham on 23:22 - Oct 30 by JACKMANANDBOY

I agree none, bearing in mind we have people chucking their passports and documentation into the sea the only logical conclusion is to stop them all or at the very least refuse entry to anyone we can't verify.

The 40 percent reduction is on a crap process that lets in terrorists and rapists like the case I posted. The process has to change, I cant be pleased about anything about it, to do otherwise would be to tolerate the intolerable.


I agree it’s intolerable but the idea that a huge reduction cannot be called a good thing because it’s not zero seems to me to be a bit unrealistic.

Unfortunately I don’t think zero is even possible but we need it as an aim and continue to move in that direction.
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