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Warren Farm 10:13 - Nov 1 with 84274 viewsconnell10

Some one saying on WATRB that the Supreme court has thrown out the appeal placed against us and Warren Farm is a goer! Good news if true!

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Warren Farm on 08:09 - Nov 2 with 4257 viewsNorthernr

They've had ample opportunity in the last couple of years, post big money days, to pull out. Could have done it on the last couple of appeals, said it was taking too long, not worth the hassle, alternative sites being explored etc. It would be stupid even by QPR standards to fight through a five year legal battle and then go 'nah sorry we're not that fussed any more'.

Not saying that won't happen, but it would be very dumb.
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Warren Farm on 08:12 - Nov 2 with 4244 viewsBlue_Castello

Like everybody else very happy with the news, as Clive says the NIMBYs should be thankful that there not getting a housing estate or an industrial park, instead a football club who is going to invest in the local community and has an excellent track record of doing good work for charitable sources.

The fact it's been announced on the Offish so quickly is also good news, the Borad have been planning for this for a long time so the Billionaires club should be able to find the loose change. Tony has taken a back seat to concentrate on Air Asia but having Bhatia as Chairman should ensure that the project proceeds, I've always thought that they want this facility to improve the club and subsequently offer First Class facilities to help develop football in Asia.
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Warren Farm on 08:21 - Nov 2 with 4222 viewsBlue_Castello

I can't say for 100% but somebody quoted on here on another thread that Investment in Infrastructure like the training ground was outside of the FFP regulations, I am assuming they are correct because if it does impact FFP then I don't see how we can go ahead with the project, the fact it's on the Offish surely means the club are serious....
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Warren Farm on 08:29 - Nov 2 with 4183 viewsisawqpratwcity

"Liberal Democrat Councillor, Jon Ball, said: '' ... QPR will make millions out of this scheme...."

Clearly the bloke doesn't know anything about us.

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Warren Farm on 08:30 - Nov 2 with 4179 viewsozexile

How will we make millions?
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Warren Farm on 08:33 - Nov 2 with 4175 viewsNorthernr

Seemed an odd quote to me as well. Presumably he's referring to the money we'll make renting pitches out etc, though millions would be a bit of a stretch on that. We will, long term, save a lot of money by not having to rent Harlington and the various youth facilities.
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Warren Farm on 08:56 - Nov 2 with 4123 viewsToast_R

That is correct
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Warren Farm on 09:37 - Nov 2 with 4043 viewsQPR_Jim

Isn't part of it importing fill to level the site. Perhaps we can make millions from that by taking other sites spoil but not enough to cover other costs.
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Warren Farm on 09:51 - Nov 2 with 4017 viewstraininvain

Not sure this is entirely accurate. Some councils struggling. But many others have been actively buying property investments in recent years.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/17/councils-commercial-property-spe

https://www.ft.com/content/b7fb146a-4a2b-11e8-8ee8-cae73aab7ccb

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/norwich-city-council-buys-property-kent-and
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Warren Farm on 10:10 - Nov 2 with 3965 viewspeejaybee

Is there an anticipated starting date on construction.If so how long to the Grand Opening Day.

If at first you dont succeed, pack up and f**k off home.

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Warren Farm on 10:20 - Nov 2 with 3931 viewsjonno

That's a relief - thanks for the info!
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Warren Farm on 10:21 - Nov 2 with 3924 viewsLblock

All infrastructure, training and youth development spending is outside of FFP

I’ve always thought the millions Man City pump into this area is some sort of workaround and can be a bit of a cover.

Can someone tweet the main man and ask if I can break ground jointly with him either side of the shovel? I’ll take him for a bit of lunch afterwards and apologise for being wrong(ish) all along

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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Warren Farm on 10:26 - Nov 2 with 3909 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Even if they were selling surely QPR having a state of the art training ground or even just having the rights to Warren farm, adds value to the club?

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Warren Farm on 10:42 - Nov 2 with 3856 viewsElHoop

Yes that's a good point. Wasps had a training ground at Sudbury once.

I don't blame the SWF people for giving it a proper go. They've probably done enough to make sure that the site is protected for the forseeable future. It's great news that we have a new training ground - I just wouldn't like to think that the good news presents an easy opportunity for someone to concrete over the site sometime in the near future.
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Warren Farm on 17:24 - Nov 2 with 3521 viewsBoston

That’s because Wasps ground(it wasn’t a stadium), was on Vale Farm.

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Warren Farm on 17:59 - Nov 2 with 3464 viewsR_from_afar

"10 years later he is looking to get out of the ownership gig and may be less willing to front the club the millions necessary".

Serious question, no sarcasm intended: Where do you get that idea from? He's stepped down as chairman but that is all, to the best of my knowledge.

RFA

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Warren Farm on 18:21 - Nov 2 with 3422 viewsCiderwithRsie

That's not because they're not struggling, it's the opposite.

Borrowing restrictions were lifted, so a lot of councils have borrowed (on historically low interest rates) to invest in property, on the basis that the rental income from property will cover the interest payments and bring in cash to spend. (There's no other reason for e.g. Norwich council to buy property in Kent.)

Which is fine right up to the point that either interest rates go up or the tenant goes bust and stops paying the rent. Which is a tad worrying with the Bank of England only holding off on interest rises because they're sh*t scared of Brexit, and shopping centres and high streets collapsing.
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Warren Farm on 18:28 - Nov 2 with 3408 viewsPinnerPaul

No idea how they do it, but Hillingdon council have not raised council tax in 10 years, have won more green spaces awards than any other London Borough and we get household, recycling, green and kitchen waste collected separately, but all on the same day, all free - every week - & no wheelie bins either!
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Warren Farm on 19:43 - Nov 2 with 3323 viewsEsox_Lucius

Just getting the team to a category 1 academy team will be of value as the rates for our youngsters goes up plus we can attract better youngsters for the same reason. Better youngsters means more profits in the long run. We've done pretty well as a category 2 team so the portents are good.

The grass is always greener.

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Warren Farm on 21:48 - Nov 2 with 3200 viewsisawqpratwcity

I'm looking forward to us having decent facilities to build an Academy of choice. It will help us get decent players that we couldn't afford to buy because of FFP.

Of course, then you can pen another justified rant about the unfairness of big clubs being able to pick the gems out for a pittance.

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Warren Farm on 22:10 - Nov 2 with 3157 viewsE17hoop

Using capital reserves to generate income. They need the cashflow and poor practice to use reserves to top up lack of income. Commercial lets generate more per sq foot and easier to dispose of if out of their borough locality.

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Warren Farm on 02:23 - Nov 5 with 2797 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Yep a very good service. However don't be fooled, despite the freeze it's still more expensive than most of neighboring councils. Essentially it was bloody extortionate 10 years ago.
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Warren Farm on 02:46 - Nov 5 with 2791 viewsBenny_the_Ball

I did like the dig from the council:

"I am confident that we have secured the best deal for local people at no cost to local council tax payers save for the legal costs spent defending the council’s decisions."
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Warren Farm on 09:08 - Nov 5 with 2596 viewsMick_S

I know, but look at my street. No bin bags there BB.


Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Warren Farm on 09:26 - Nov 5 with 2557 viewsToast_R

Just had our budget meeting with the Director in my South London LA and we've been told that the budget for the next two years based on central government funding, whilst again savings have to be made (most have already been identified in advance), things are looking ok - not as bad as first feared. However, after 2020, we and other boroughs are looking at a cliff edge situation.

The years of Austerity are far from over.
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