| The Hythe Ferry 08:32 - Feb 5 with 2737 views | SaintNick |
Once again under threat apparently , it would be a shame if it stopped, surely it could be ran as a tourist attraction thing, Howard Jones was born on the Waterside he could become our own Gerry Marsden if we asked him to write a song about it.
I can only remember going on it once when I was about 12 im sad to say |  |
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| The Hythe Ferry on 10:17 - Feb 6 with 564 views | grumpy |
| The Hythe Ferry on 23:06 - Feb 5 by SaintNick |
I certainly would like to see it saved |
Nick
Remember
The Top Rank Dancing
Bowling
Ice Skating
Pier
Lido
Shops with Character
Pubs and Cafes along the High Street with Character.
etc etc
Now our Hythe Ferry
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| The Hythe Ferry on 10:36 - Feb 6 with 526 views | SaintNick |
| The Hythe Ferry on 10:17 - Feb 6 by grumpy |
Nick
Remember
The Top Rank Dancing
Bowling
Ice Skating
Pier
Lido
Shops with Character
Pubs and Cafes along the High Street with Character.
etc etc
Now our Hythe Ferry
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I remember the Top Rank, although I went there and the ice rink I never went to the Bowling alley there.
The Pier and the Lido now both gone best part of 50 years.
On the last two though I would say that the city is making a comeback.
By the mid/late 1980's you could walk from London Road/ Carlton Place corner to Holyrood Church and just encounter 1 pub actually on Above Bar/High Street, The Park Tavern/Bogarts and a couple old doors along the cellar Wine Bar Goblets so if you classify that as a pub it's 2, it was all chain stores.
The High street was flattened by the Luftwaffe, there was barely a building left, all the pubs on it were destroyed, there was little character on the high street post WW2
I dont think there were any Cafes other than in the shops
Now do the same walk and there are probably about 20 pubs and quite a few cafes and coffee shops.
There are also a few shops with character in East Street and about, but that is still a work in progress.
The new pubs though don't have much character, but perhaps | |
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| The Hythe Ferry on 10:51 - Feb 6 with 510 views | HytheFerrytales |
My dear old Mum was a regular at the Ice Rink ( used the Hythe Ferry to get there funnily enough).
It was still active at the outset of the War but Mum recounts it was flattened by our German mates in 1940 2 nights after she had last been.
Was rebuilt in 1952 and shut for good in 1988 |  | | |
| The Hythe Ferry on 10:59 - Feb 6 with 499 views | grumpy |
| The Hythe Ferry on 10:36 - Feb 6 by SaintNick |
I remember the Top Rank, although I went there and the ice rink I never went to the Bowling alley there.
The Pier and the Lido now both gone best part of 50 years.
On the last two though I would say that the city is making a comeback.
By the mid/late 1980's you could walk from London Road/ Carlton Place corner to Holyrood Church and just encounter 1 pub actually on Above Bar/High Street, The Park Tavern/Bogarts and a couple old doors along the cellar Wine Bar Goblets so if you classify that as a pub it's 2, it was all chain stores.
The High street was flattened by the Luftwaffe, there was barely a building left, all the pubs on it were destroyed, there was little character on the high street post WW2
I dont think there were any Cafes other than in the shops
Now do the same walk and there are probably about 20 pubs and quite a few cafes and coffee shops.
There are also a few shops with character in East Street and about, but that is still a work in progress.
The new pubs though don't have much character, but perhaps |
The Cadena and Lylons Cafes were great places.
The Checkpoint Cafe was like something out of 'Clockwork Orange'
Gattis,The Southerner,Red Lion etc etc | | | |
| The Hythe Ferry on 12:11 - Feb 6 with 469 views | dirk_doone |
| The Hythe Ferry on 10:36 - Feb 6 by SaintNick |
I remember the Top Rank, although I went there and the ice rink I never went to the Bowling alley there.
The Pier and the Lido now both gone best part of 50 years.
On the last two though I would say that the city is making a comeback.
By the mid/late 1980's you could walk from London Road/ Carlton Place corner to Holyrood Church and just encounter 1 pub actually on Above Bar/High Street, The Park Tavern/Bogarts and a couple old doors along the cellar Wine Bar Goblets so if you classify that as a pub it's 2, it was all chain stores.
The High street was flattened by the Luftwaffe, there was barely a building left, all the pubs on it were destroyed, there was little character on the high street post WW2
I dont think there were any Cafes other than in the shops
Now do the same walk and there are probably about 20 pubs and quite a few cafes and coffee shops.
There are also a few shops with character in East Street and about, but that is still a work in progress.
The new pubs though don't have much character, but perhaps |
Pre-war, Southampton was a lively old port city, a bit like Marseille. There is a good description of it in Laurie Lee's As I Walked Out One Midsummer Morning. After more than 50,000 buildings were destroyed, mostly by German incendiary bombs, what replaced it was cheap, featureless concrete, and the city seemed to turn its back on the sea. Most visitors to Southampton city centre would never even notice the sea.
It didn't have to be like that. Many European cities which were flattened by the Germans, like Prague, were painstakingly rebuilt to recapture their original character and beauty. Meanwhile, Southampton has suffered from some of the most mediocre, uninspired town planning in Europe. Some of the Baltic cities, like Riga and Vilnius, are good examples of how you can have a modern city which still retains character, and makes the most of its geographical location, yet they had far less money to invest. [Post edited 6 Feb 12:23]
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| The Hythe Ferry on 12:18 - Feb 6 with 461 views | HytheFerrytales |
| The Hythe Ferry on 12:11 - Feb 6 by dirk_doone |
Pre-war, Southampton was a lively old port city, a bit like Marseille. There is a good description of it in Laurie Lee's As I Walked Out One Midsummer Morning. After more than 50,000 buildings were destroyed, mostly by German incendiary bombs, what replaced it was cheap, featureless concrete, and the city seemed to turn its back on the sea. Most visitors to Southampton city centre would never even notice the sea.
It didn't have to be like that. Many European cities which were flattened by the Germans, like Prague, were painstakingly rebuilt to recapture their original character and beauty. Meanwhile, Southampton has suffered from some of the most mediocre, uninspired town planning in Europe. Some of the Baltic cities, like Riga and Vilnius, are good examples of how you can have a modern city which still retains character, and makes the most of its geographical location, yet they had far less money to invest. [Post edited 6 Feb 12:23]
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| The Hythe Ferry on 20:48 - Feb 6 with 405 views | SaintNick |
Not sure Prague was flattened, The Czechs didnt actually figtht he German sbut signed away their independence, around 300k Czechs were murdered during what is termed the occupation, mainly Jews, but the buildings in Prague remained largely untouched, it was never bombed, only the Jewish ghettos were flattened | |
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| The Hythe Ferry on 21:15 - Feb 6 with 386 views | dirk_doone |
| The Hythe Ferry on 20:48 - Feb 6 by SaintNick |
Not sure Prague was flattened, The Czechs didnt actually figtht he German sbut signed away their independence, around 300k Czechs were murdered during what is termed the occupation, mainly Jews, but the buildings in Prague remained largely untouched, it was never bombed, only the Jewish ghettos were flattened |
In May 1945, during and after the Prague uprising, the Germans destroyed much of the Old Town of Prague, using tanks and aerial bombs. The Americans had also bombed Prague earlier that year, saying they thought it was Dresden. Their navigation must have been terrible, but perhaps they just thought they'd unload their bombs on any German occupied city. There were also other deliberate bombing raids on Prague by the Allies.
In one particularly malicious act, before they departed, the Germans filled the Old Town Square with tanks and turned their guns on the buildings. Many of the beautiful old buildings you see now are largely a post-war reconstructions, built using the original plans.
If you'd done any of the walking tours of Prague with a local guide you'd have learned about this.
To be fair to you, the whole city wasn't flattened, so perhaps I should have used a German city as an example. But, my point is that, compared to many other cities, Southampton was not at all well rebuilt after the war.
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| The Hythe Ferry on 21:15 - Feb 6 with 388 views | grumpy |
| The Hythe Ferry on 20:48 - Feb 6 by SaintNick |
Not sure Prague was flattened, The Czechs didnt actually figtht he German sbut signed away their independence, around 300k Czechs were murdered during what is termed the occupation, mainly Jews, but the buildings in Prague remained largely untouched, it was never bombed, only the Jewish ghettos were flattened |
The Germans did bomb Prague during the Prague Uprising which was more the ghettos in 1945, although more damage was done by the Allies.
The Czechs fought the Germans mainly through Resistance Movements throughout the war
It must always be remembered the Czech pilots played an important role in the Battle Of Britain. | | | |
| The Hythe Ferry on 22:06 - Feb 6 with 350 views | HytheFerrytales |
| The Hythe Ferry on 21:15 - Feb 6 by dirk_doone |
In May 1945, during and after the Prague uprising, the Germans destroyed much of the Old Town of Prague, using tanks and aerial bombs. The Americans had also bombed Prague earlier that year, saying they thought it was Dresden. Their navigation must have been terrible, but perhaps they just thought they'd unload their bombs on any German occupied city. There were also other deliberate bombing raids on Prague by the Allies.
In one particularly malicious act, before they departed, the Germans filled the Old Town Square with tanks and turned their guns on the buildings. Many of the beautiful old buildings you see now are largely a post-war reconstructions, built using the original plans.
If you'd done any of the walking tours of Prague with a local guide you'd have learned about this.
To be fair to you, the whole city wasn't flattened, so perhaps I should have used a German city as an example. But, my point is that, compared to many other cities, Southampton was not at all well rebuilt after the war.
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To your reference of a German city...check out Dresden if you ever get the chance.
We turned that place into a car park in mid 1945. They rebuilt that city over decades to be a meticulous re-incarnation of its former glory...spectacular place now,
They rebuilt the town square clock in replica down to the fine detail of having it permanently set at exactly the time it stopped when the allied bombs hit it. | | | |
| The Hythe Ferry on 22:11 - Feb 6 with 339 views | dirk_doone |
| The Hythe Ferry on 22:06 - Feb 6 by HytheFerrytales |
To your reference of a German city...check out Dresden if you ever get the chance.
We turned that place into a car park in mid 1945. They rebuilt that city over decades to be a meticulous re-incarnation of its former glory...spectacular place now,
They rebuilt the town square clock in replica down to the fine detail of having it permanently set at exactly the time it stopped when the allied bombs hit it. |
Thanks. Yes, that would have been a better example. | |
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| The Hythe Ferry on 22:30 - Feb 6 with 322 views | SaintNick |
| The Hythe Ferry on 22:11 - Feb 6 by dirk_doone |
Thanks. Yes, that would have been a better example. |
Dresden was flattened although I think the citizens of Coventry would not have had much sympathy | |
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| The Hythe Ferry on 00:10 - Feb 7 with 278 views | dirk_doone |
| The Hythe Ferry on 22:30 - Feb 6 by SaintNick |
Dresden was flattened although I think the citizens of Coventry would not have had much sympathy |
Nor the people of Southampton at that time. [Post edited 7 Feb 9:21]
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