| Nourry answers questions on 21:07 - Feb 13 with 2086 views | mart_Goblin |
Only a personal opinion , but the one answer of his that I really liked was the one which he caveated prior, that fans would be frustrated by the answer . The question was where we will be or where does he see us in 5 years time.
For the first real time , I thought his answer was honest and considered and wasn’t aimed at keeping people happy .
Thats what we need a whole lot more of .
Not HANDPICKED questions about why we haven’t got a shop in Westfield!!!!
It doesn’t take Alan Sugar to work out why for god sake.
Some will never have him.
Some will go out to bat for him every time anybody asks a question about him.
There are things to like about his 2 years here so far . To not acknowledge that would be silly .
But to really gain any credibility, the vetted Q & A cringe fest has to stop .
If he was comfortable with what he was doing he wouldn’t worry about a room full of fans asking him ad hoc, off the cuff questions about what’s really bothering fans .
The question of “have we ever considered turning the pitch around 180 degrees and what are the reasons why we can’t “….blew my tiny mind .
Why is that picked?
And that’s my point.
Do it seriously or don’t bother ..because it once again comes across as condescending.
Some will disagree but that’s my thoughts . |  | |  |
| Nourry answers questions on 21:08 - Feb 13 with 2078 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Nourry answers questions on 21:01 - Feb 13 by hubble |
Not really, to be totally honest. |
That's fair enough, hubble.
I really don't trust him as a CEO, but I assure you it's not down to his accent or anything like that.
I wouldn't mess with my club by getting involved in that kind of thing, I promise you.
But I understand that some will, and do. |  |
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| Nourry answers questions on 21:13 - Feb 13 with 2041 views | SAPilgrim |
| Nourry answers questions on 20:39 - Feb 13 by hubble |
The anti-Nourry sentiment runs deep on this site, less so elsewhere. People have expressed dislike for him based on his accent, his background, how he looks, how he expresses himself, what he does or doesn't say... a lot of judgement, a lot of suspicion about his motives. Personally I think the guy's doing a decent job and deserves a break from the undercurrent of hostility.
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Of course, you’re absolutely entitled to your view and to disagree with others. But i think that of what you mention, ‘what he does and doesn’t say’ is a very fair criticism that those who criticise, make. Firstly because that’s a critical part of the job description and secondly because there is some very fair criticism to make of the way that he has personally and as part of the organisation put information across. |  | | |
| Nourry answers questions on 21:42 - Feb 13 with 1940 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Nourry answers questions on 21:07 - Feb 13 by mart_Goblin |
Only a personal opinion , but the one answer of his that I really liked was the one which he caveated prior, that fans would be frustrated by the answer . The question was where we will be or where does he see us in 5 years time.
For the first real time , I thought his answer was honest and considered and wasn’t aimed at keeping people happy .
Thats what we need a whole lot more of .
Not HANDPICKED questions about why we haven’t got a shop in Westfield!!!!
It doesn’t take Alan Sugar to work out why for god sake.
Some will never have him.
Some will go out to bat for him every time anybody asks a question about him.
There are things to like about his 2 years here so far . To not acknowledge that would be silly .
But to really gain any credibility, the vetted Q & A cringe fest has to stop .
If he was comfortable with what he was doing he wouldn’t worry about a room full of fans asking him ad hoc, off the cuff questions about what’s really bothering fans .
The question of “have we ever considered turning the pitch around 180 degrees and what are the reasons why we can’t “….blew my tiny mind .
Why is that picked?
And that’s my point.
Do it seriously or don’t bother ..because it once again comes across as condescending.
Some will disagree but that’s my thoughts . |
In today’s SM savvy age a room full of middle aged blokes throwing random unvetted questions would be a total sh1t show.
Ellerslie Road water pressures
Why hasn’t my son not been given a pro contract
Why is my favourite beer not available
Why did you not sign Rahim Sterling
etc etc
What questions were you expecting to be asked? I would’ve liked a more in depth answer on our injury situation but apart from that it seemed a reasonable mix of subjects. |  | | |
| Nourry answers questions on 22:01 - Feb 13 with 1883 views | Northernr |
| Nourry answers questions on 21:42 - Feb 13 by Ned_Kennedys |
In today’s SM savvy age a room full of middle aged blokes throwing random unvetted questions would be a total sh1t show.
Ellerslie Road water pressures
Why hasn’t my son not been given a pro contract
Why is my favourite beer not available
Why did you not sign Rahim Sterling
etc etc
What questions were you expecting to be asked? I would’ve liked a more in depth answer on our injury situation but apart from that it seemed a reasonable mix of subjects. |
And the difference between those questions and “why don’t you lay a bit of entertainment on so we can stick around after games” and “can I come and have a trial in the academy” is?
I think “why does a data and analytics led recruitment operation keep alighting on Australians from the same West London agent?” Is a perfectly legitimate question. I’d have like that asked. And if you’re comfortable with your strategy and what you’re doing there’d be no problem answering it.
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| Nourry answers questions on 22:05 - Feb 13 with 1853 views | hubble |
| Nourry answers questions on 21:13 - Feb 13 by SAPilgrim |
Of course, you’re absolutely entitled to your view and to disagree with others. But i think that of what you mention, ‘what he does and doesn’t say’ is a very fair criticism that those who criticise, make. Firstly because that’s a critical part of the job description and secondly because there is some very fair criticism to make of the way that he has personally and as part of the organisation put information across. |
Yes, i could have expressed that better; what I meant was the focus on what he doesn't say, not what he says. |  |
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| Nourry answers questions on 22:22 - Feb 13 with 1798 views | mart_Goblin |
| Nourry answers questions on 21:42 - Feb 13 by Ned_Kennedys |
In today’s SM savvy age a room full of middle aged blokes throwing random unvetted questions would be a total sh1t show.
Ellerslie Road water pressures
Why hasn’t my son not been given a pro contract
Why is my favourite beer not available
Why did you not sign Rahim Sterling
etc etc
What questions were you expecting to be asked? I would’ve liked a more in depth answer on our injury situation but apart from that it seemed a reasonable mix of subjects. |
Yes, I considered that and ultimately you are correct .
No doubt , there would be some cringy moments.
But those questions are no worse than “Do you like Norwegian players?”
“Can I get a job at the club in marketing?”. Come on.
That’s handpicked !!!!!!!!!!
And yet the same ‘faces’ come on here to argue the toss that we really don’t have a right to question this nonsense.
I’d actually prefer questions on the pathetic water pressure in the loft end, frankly.
Because this for me is one of the big issues. Again , speaking only for me, I’d like him to answer questions without prep and with some degree of spontaneity. It then becomes a real discussion with merit.
Listen I don’t expect anyone to agree with me , especially you Ned on the subject of CN, but it’s more than just nitpicking or some sort vendetta.
The injury's question is a little unfair, because he has a literal army of people more qualified than himself who should be put forward to give some insight into some on the injury concerns .
But there is no transparency in pre prepared questions , especially some of the ridiculous ones hand picked tonight . And that’s where I think he can do so much better .
As I say, only my thoughts. | | | |
| Nourry answers questions on 22:26 - Feb 13 with 1780 views | wombat |
| Nourry answers questions on 22:05 - Feb 13 by hubble |
Yes, i could have expressed that better; what I meant was the focus on what he doesn't say, not what he says. |
Not got around to listening to it yet , but it sounds like from those who have the usual carefully vetted questions which puts his project into a good light . Well he’s 2 years in should be time for the project to start making the owners some money ,
Presume the why are we getting so many impact inquires wasn’t asked ? |  |
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| Nourry answers questions on 23:14 - Feb 13 with 1645 views | loftus77 |
Listening to this, I don't want to come across as naive/gullible, but overall I quite liked what I heard from our CEO. I was generally ok with it.
As ever, so much of our view of Nourry will be tempered by first team results and league position - if we lose 0-3 to Blackburn tomorrow then the whole of this is viewed in a very different light.
That aside - even though some questions are clearly hand-picked and left-field (having the pitch in a North-South orientation was a new one on me...), our CEO did appear genuine in his keenness to address a lot of issues that are important to the fanbase (injury situation, future of LR, improving the match-day experience). Got to say though, I would have liked to hear him field a question on the Eze money - does he accept that this gives us a bit of wiggle-room now which other Championship clubs perhaps don't enjoy?
Whatever you say about him, Nourry does always come across as a talented, committed CEO who has a sober, realistic plan for the club, recognising the pressures of Championship life (on-and-off the field) which we're all aware of. It's not ideal, and he/the club always need to look at improving club comms and ensuring follow-up on commitments made to fans (will it get easier to get a HT tea in the Lower School End? - I wonder in reality...).
But no one can accuse our CEO of having his head in the clouds in a way which was levelled at Paladini, Briatore or Tony. Nourry's approach/character seems light years away from these and that, hopefully, will be a good thing in the years ahead. [Post edited 13 Feb 23:16]
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| Nourry answers questions on 23:21 - Feb 13 with 1623 views | Hoopsie |
| Nourry answers questions on 22:01 - Feb 13 by Northernr |
And the difference between those questions and “why don’t you lay a bit of entertainment on so we can stick around after games” and “can I come and have a trial in the academy” is?
I think “why does a data and analytics led recruitment operation keep alighting on Australians from the same West London agent?” Is a perfectly legitimate question. I’d have like that asked. And if you’re comfortable with your strategy and what you’re doing there’d be no problem answering it.
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This thing about recruiting Australians interest me and I think it is a really good question (why we recruit Australians and what is the process) but if asked in this raw form could be seen as a bit intimidating or confrontational perhaps?
Because it suggests
1. There may been personal connection with this west London agent
2. The data and recruitment process is skewed towards a certain bias
If you would like the CEO to announce and explain his strategy perhaps that is quite unlikely because Nourry is best known to keep “trade secrets”
How about the whys and how’s like
- is the data and recruitment process in identifying players work the same globally in markets like Asia and Africa as in UK / Europe and if not, what are the underlying difference?
- is the Australian focus due to key factors like league potential (A-League standard may be “poor” but with massive potential), cultural (western oriented so easy assimilation), sporting values (Aussie spirit in sports) and a very undervalued football market in terms of players value. Also other Asian countries like Japan may have a saturated market as it is better known, perhaps?
- how is the handling of the Australian market being executed? Are the agents based locally (as in an Australian recruitment agency/cies we deal directly with) or a third party agent representing our interests? How does the setup benefit the club and is the system able to identify, trial and recruit players on a countywide basis so there is a higher opportunity to achieve success?
- how is this global recruitment (Australian market) reviewed and what are timeline and goals to affirm its success? (most obvious will be players stepping into first team and players sales for profit). We already have Bennie, Pearman, Adamson and now Pullela - are we still recruiting?
- as above, all three players are from one club Perth Glory except for Adamson (Macathur). What are the indications that the academies of these clubs produce good players for the first team / Australia youth teams)
I also wonder how much does the club recruitment know about the Australian football themselves not just through the lens of an agent or third party. I am thinking they would know quite substantially and their network expansive. This is also a question that I would like answer too. [Post edited 14 Feb 0:02]
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| Nourry answers questions on 23:46 - Feb 13 with 1552 views | Jevlar |
It was all a bit Bobby Z in the 89th for me. [Post edited 14 Feb 0:26]
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| Nourry answers questions on 23:52 - Feb 13 with 1522 views | HAMRanger |
weird thing to say |  | | |
| Nourry answers questions on 00:08 - Feb 14 with 1475 views | Hoopsie |
| Nourry answers questions on 23:52 - Feb 13 by HAMRanger |
weird thing to say |
Concurred
This is what Hubble alluded to
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| Nourry answers questions on 00:10 - Feb 14 with 1472 views | Boston |
That's not very Christian of you. | |
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| Nourry answers questions on 00:10 - Feb 14 with 1471 views | aston_hoop |
| Nourry answers questions on 23:21 - Feb 13 by Hoopsie |
This thing about recruiting Australians interest me and I think it is a really good question (why we recruit Australians and what is the process) but if asked in this raw form could be seen as a bit intimidating or confrontational perhaps?
Because it suggests
1. There may been personal connection with this west London agent
2. The data and recruitment process is skewed towards a certain bias
If you would like the CEO to announce and explain his strategy perhaps that is quite unlikely because Nourry is best known to keep “trade secrets”
How about the whys and how’s like
- is the data and recruitment process in identifying players work the same globally in markets like Asia and Africa as in UK / Europe and if not, what are the underlying difference?
- is the Australian focus due to key factors like league potential (A-League standard may be “poor” but with massive potential), cultural (western oriented so easy assimilation), sporting values (Aussie spirit in sports) and a very undervalued football market in terms of players value. Also other Asian countries like Japan may have a saturated market as it is better known, perhaps?
- how is the handling of the Australian market being executed? Are the agents based locally (as in an Australian recruitment agency/cies we deal directly with) or a third party agent representing our interests? How does the setup benefit the club and is the system able to identify, trial and recruit players on a countywide basis so there is a higher opportunity to achieve success?
- how is this global recruitment (Australian market) reviewed and what are timeline and goals to affirm its success? (most obvious will be players stepping into first team and players sales for profit). We already have Bennie, Pearman, Adamson and now Pullela - are we still recruiting?
- as above, all three players are from one club Perth Glory except for Adamson (Macathur). What are the indications that the academies of these clubs produce good players for the first team / Australia youth teams)
I also wonder how much does the club recruitment know about the Australian football themselves not just through the lens of an agent or third party. I am thinking they would know quite substantially and their network expansive. This is also a question that I would like answer too. [Post edited 14 Feb 0:02]
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But if there is nothing to hide, why should he shy away from it? We have signed 4 young players from the same agent. Tell us about how lucky we are because we are getting special terms from him. Don't leave it up to me online to look on Transfermarkt and find out |  |
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| Nourry answers questions on 00:33 - Feb 14 with 1414 views | Hoopsie |
| Nourry answers questions on 00:10 - Feb 14 by aston_hoop |
But if there is nothing to hide, why should he shy away from it? We have signed 4 young players from the same agent. Tell us about how lucky we are because we are getting special terms from him. Don't leave it up to me online to look on Transfermarkt and find out |
What is wrong if you get special terms from an agent to do business in a country far far away and you know next to nothing about?
You are assuming because he is not telling that he got something to hide. Is the agent a mate? Is he getting mate’s rate?
If he would have gone and do business with 4 different agents for the 4 players, some people would assume he got 4 mates whilst others would question his business sense in not getting special terms | |
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| Nourry answers questions on 00:36 - Feb 14 with 1401 views | aston_hoop |
| Nourry answers questions on 00:33 - Feb 14 by Hoopsie |
What is wrong if you get special terms from an agent to do business in a country far far away and you know next to nothing about?
You are assuming because he is not telling that he got something to hide. Is the agent a mate? Is he getting mate’s rate?
If he would have gone and do business with 4 different agents for the 4 players, some people would assume he got 4 mates whilst others would question his business sense in not getting special terms |
Well we don't know because he hasn't answered it. As I have said many times, there doesn't have to be anything wrong. So why not answer it? | |
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| Nourry answers questions on 01:02 - Feb 14 with 1348 views | Hunterhoop |
The real issue is that some of what he says is not the truth. He knows that. Some of us know that. If you aren’t willing to be honest on something relatively trivial (like the pitch and the cause of it being like it is), then what else are you willing to be dishonest on?
It always comes down to trust, not just competence for me. And then people leadership skills.
I don’t trust him because he has lied on a number of things (10 years in football, journalist at the guardian, pitch is due to a lack of sunlight, game model is just a loose vibe, wasn’t looking to exit Cifuentes, etc, etc), and from what I’ve heard his people leadership skills leave an awful lot to be desired too.
He has done some decent stuff, could do some great things, but he needs to build trust. How? Be authentic, be vulnerable, be open. When the workforce starts singing his praises, just like people did about Ollie, Power, etc, that will all give me more confidence. When he can handle questions, which aren’t pre-selected, in an open forum, that will give me confidence. When he can openly admit mistakes and communicate learnings from them, that will give me confidence. When people who have met him come away with more positive opinions of him than those who haven’t…that would give me some confidence.
But, everyone’s entitled to their own beliefs. And if you trust him, good luck to you. I hope your trust turns out to have been well placed and that I turn out to have been a pessimistic, cynical b*stard. Because I want the best for QPR. |  | | |
| Nourry answers questions on 01:13 - Feb 14 with 1305 views | Boston |
| Nourry answers questions on 00:36 - Feb 14 by aston_hoop |
Well we don't know because he hasn't answered it. As I have said many times, there doesn't have to be anything wrong. So why not answer it? |
If there's nothing to hide, what's he hiding? | |
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| Nourry answers questions on 01:14 - Feb 14 with 1302 views | LisbonR |
| Nourry answers questions on 20:39 - Feb 13 by hubble |
The anti-Nourry sentiment runs deep on this site, less so elsewhere. People have expressed dislike for him based on his accent, his background, how he looks, how he expresses himself, what he does or doesn't say... a lot of judgement, a lot of suspicion about his motives. Personally I think the guy's doing a decent job and deserves a break from the undercurrent of hostility.
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I’ve followed this site, and occasionally contributed, for over a decade, but part of the reason I stopped checking the forums is the constant negativity. I genuinely don’t understand it. The club is in a much better position than it has been for quite some time, yet some people still feel the need to criticise and complain.
The criticism often feels less about substance and more about personal traits that have very little to do with the job itself. There’s a difference between healthy scrutiny and piling on, and at times it’s definitely tipped toward the latter by some. |  | | |
| Nourry answers questions on 04:25 - Feb 14 with 1181 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Nourry answers questions on 01:02 - Feb 14 by Hunterhoop |
The real issue is that some of what he says is not the truth. He knows that. Some of us know that. If you aren’t willing to be honest on something relatively trivial (like the pitch and the cause of it being like it is), then what else are you willing to be dishonest on?
It always comes down to trust, not just competence for me. And then people leadership skills.
I don’t trust him because he has lied on a number of things (10 years in football, journalist at the guardian, pitch is due to a lack of sunlight, game model is just a loose vibe, wasn’t looking to exit Cifuentes, etc, etc), and from what I’ve heard his people leadership skills leave an awful lot to be desired too.
He has done some decent stuff, could do some great things, but he needs to build trust. How? Be authentic, be vulnerable, be open. When the workforce starts singing his praises, just like people did about Ollie, Power, etc, that will all give me more confidence. When he can handle questions, which aren’t pre-selected, in an open forum, that will give me confidence. When he can openly admit mistakes and communicate learnings from them, that will give me confidence. When people who have met him come away with more positive opinions of him than those who haven’t…that would give me some confidence.
But, everyone’s entitled to their own beliefs. And if you trust him, good luck to you. I hope your trust turns out to have been well placed and that I turn out to have been a pessimistic, cynical b*stard. Because I want the best for QPR. |
So tell us all what you know about the pitch then. | | | |
| Nourry answers questions on 04:52 - Feb 14 with 1156 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
I'd like to know how shift in style of the 1st team aligns with the DS style. They seem at odds with one another and how that will impact youngsters breaking through to the first team squad.
Seeing how we need to become sustainable the DS is meant to be an important cog in the machine.
And also why are most of our loans to such low teams? | |
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| Nourry answers questions on 05:01 - Feb 14 with 1147 views | QPRSam |
| Nourry answers questions on 01:14 - Feb 14 by LisbonR |
I’ve followed this site, and occasionally contributed, for over a decade, but part of the reason I stopped checking the forums is the constant negativity. I genuinely don’t understand it. The club is in a much better position than it has been for quite some time, yet some people still feel the need to criticise and complain.
The criticism often feels less about substance and more about personal traits that have very little to do with the job itself. There’s a difference between healthy scrutiny and piling on, and at times it’s definitely tipped toward the latter by some. |
He talks in the video about the groundsman being harassed, earlier in the season people were messaging Nourry's family, then already in this thread we have personal jabs, someone wanting to slap him, people not even listening to the video completely lying about some of his answers. I know there's a lot of talk of abuse of the squad coming from other platforms but I don't think the apple is falling far from the tree here.
I agree with you Lisbon 100% and feel like I should just avoid these threads unless we're coming off a win | | | |
| Nourry answers questions on 05:07 - Feb 14 with 1141 views | QPRSam |
| Nourry answers questions on 04:52 - Feb 14 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I'd like to know how shift in style of the 1st team aligns with the DS style. They seem at odds with one another and how that will impact youngsters breaking through to the first team squad.
Seeing how we need to become sustainable the DS is meant to be an important cog in the machine.
And also why are most of our loans to such low teams? |
My assumption with the loans are that with non league loans it means the player can still train and play for the DS. For example Jake Coomes plays with Bracknell on weekends but trains and plays for DS like in mid week, just gives them experience in men's football I suppose
Otherwise Cooper playing in Championship, Lloyd is out in League 1, Sutton League 2 and Bennie was set to go for a League 1 move also before we ended up needing him in the squad. Thats better than we've done in a long time. Remember Chair and Eze broke into our 1st team after League 2 loans | | | |
| Nourry answers questions on 07:18 - Feb 14 with 1056 views | swisscottage |
| Nourry answers questions on 20:13 - Feb 13 by aston_hoop |
All legit questions that actually happened rather than 'what is your relationship with agent Matthew Moore'. Though to be fair, I think he only said players will be back this month, he didn't say an awful of substance really |
So I asked Gemini Deep Research
Why do all the young players QPR have signed from Australia in the last few years all have the same agent - Matthew Moore?
Is there a relationship between Moore and Christian Nourry(QPR CEO) or someone else at the club?
Is there any potential conflict of interest in these deals ?
The following is the link to the report .. makes interesting reading if you go beneath the hyperbolic AI language. Nothing seemingly nefarious.
https://gemini.google.com/shar
here's a link to the report rewritten without the hyperbole and also updated to include Christian Pullella and Tylon Smith also represented by CCC
https://gemini.google.com/shar [Post edited 14 Feb 7:31]
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