| Piroe for Surridge 14:11 - Jul 10 with 7953 views | KeithHaynes |
Decent report from Phil this morning, but even with a decent wad a cash coming our way Surridge is no Piroe. |  |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 21:48 - Jul 10 with 1773 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Piroe for Surridge on 21:34 - Jul 10 by Dr_Winston |
I suspect he'd have had more of a look in if Cooper had stayed. I am almost certain that Martin took a dislike from day one and nothing Whittaker ever did would have been good enough.
He's absolutely not a centre forward I agree, but given how outstanding he was at Plymouth, even if it was a division below, Russy's refusal to even consider giving him a run in that role basically constituted a dereliction of duty. |
If Duff does not take a liking to the players he is in spot of bother. Best for him to be on his best behaviour and be the brightest and best version of himself. First in last out.
Rooney, Cooper, Martin did not select him and had their reasons fair or unfair. Lets hope Duff gets the best out of him at Championship level. The owners value him financially as above league 1. |  |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 21:59 - Jul 10 with 1755 views | Fireboy2 |
| Piroe for Surridge on 21:34 - Jul 10 by Dr_Winston |
I suspect he'd have had more of a look in if Cooper had stayed. I am almost certain that Martin took a dislike from day one and nothing Whittaker ever did would have been good enough.
He's absolutely not a centre forward I agree, but given how outstanding he was at Plymouth, even if it was a division below, Russy's refusal to even consider giving him a run in that role basically constituted a dereliction of duty. |
It wasn't just Martin that took a dislike to him doc, not just swansea managers.
Imo he found his level at league 1 and the training regime and standard was too high for him.
I saw him have a tantrum at Hull last season, just backed up what I've been told.
If he struggled with Martin he has no chance with Duffs intense regime. |  | | |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:03 - Jul 10 with 1748 views | Dr_Winston |
| Piroe for Surridge on 21:59 - Jul 10 by Fireboy2 |
It wasn't just Martin that took a dislike to him doc, not just swansea managers.
Imo he found his level at league 1 and the training regime and standard was too high for him.
I saw him have a tantrum at Hull last season, just backed up what I've been told.
If he struggled with Martin he has no chance with Duffs intense regime. |
Who else took a dislike to him?
Schumacher clearly knew how to get a tune out of him. Martin didn't even try. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 22:09 - Jul 10 with 1717 views | Whiterockin |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:03 - Jul 10 by Dr_Winston |
Who else took a dislike to him?
Schumacher clearly knew how to get a tune out of him. Martin didn't even try. |
Watching him play here and at Plymouth there was no comparison, here he just couldn't be arsed. Who's fault who knows was it Martin's or Whittakers he has a fresh start now let's hope he takes it. |  |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 22:11 - Jul 10 with 1723 views | Dr_Winston |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:09 - Jul 10 by Whiterockin |
Watching him play here and at Plymouth there was no comparison, here he just couldn't be arsed. Who's fault who knows was it Martin's or Whittakers he has a fresh start now let's hope he takes it. |
Here he was either up front or stuck out wide. Not in the position he'd been so effective in, and under a manager he clearly knew didn't give a sh* about him. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 22:13 - Jul 10 with 1702 views | Whiterockin |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:11 - Jul 10 by Dr_Winston |
Here he was either up front or stuck out wide. Not in the position he'd been so effective in, and under a manager he clearly knew didn't give a sh* about him. |
Let's hope he makes the most of the fresh start, exciting times. | |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 22:23 - Jul 10 with 1683 views | Fireboy2 |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:03 - Jul 10 by Dr_Winston |
Who else took a dislike to him?
Schumacher clearly knew how to get a tune out of him. Martin didn't even try. |
Whoever was the derby manager, the derby fans I spoke to at the away game were glad to see the back of him, they said he was like a child who didn't get his way.
Cooper sent him out on loan and obviously Martin, who copped alot of sh!te for sending him out on loan then not giving him gametime when he got recalled.
If Duff sticks with him I will platt fog. | | | |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:53 - Jul 10 with 1641 views | BryanSwan |
| Piroe for Surridge on 17:40 - Jul 10 by SullutaCreturned |
Like I just said on another thread, Surridge may be a good partner for Joseph. As people may have guessed, I think Joseph may break through this season!
I think there's a player there if he's used properly. |
Got a lot more games under his belt now. I quite like him to be fair, more of a physical handful and definitely capable of scoring at championship level. May not be as technical as Piroe buts lets not forgot the success we've had with a more direct forward. (Scotland, Graham, Bony)
I'd imagine if we brought someone like that in we could expect to be starting with more width and pace out wide to make use of his talents too. |  |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 09:26 - Jul 11 with 1521 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:53 - Jul 10 by BryanSwan |
Got a lot more games under his belt now. I quite like him to be fair, more of a physical handful and definitely capable of scoring at championship level. May not be as technical as Piroe buts lets not forgot the success we've had with a more direct forward. (Scotland, Graham, Bony)
I'd imagine if we brought someone like that in we could expect to be starting with more width and pace out wide to make use of his talents too. |
That would be great to see. |  |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 14:04 - Jul 11 with 1451 views | Badlands |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:53 - Jul 10 by BryanSwan |
Got a lot more games under his belt now. I quite like him to be fair, more of a physical handful and definitely capable of scoring at championship level. May not be as technical as Piroe buts lets not forgot the success we've had with a more direct forward. (Scotland, Graham, Bony)
I'd imagine if we brought someone like that in we could expect to be starting with more width and pace out wide to make use of his talents too. |
I get your point about being more direct but comparing Surridge with Bony, Scotland and Graham is too far a stretch for me.
We appear to have brought in Yates ... less productive and shorter and older than Cullen so, unless we are keeping Whittaker our attacking height has been lowered even more. |  |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 14:09 - Jul 11 with 1437 views | ploppy |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:03 - Jul 10 by Dr_Winston |
Who else took a dislike to him?
Schumacher clearly knew how to get a tune out of him. Martin didn't even try. |
Wayne Rooney's Derby County. Apparently. | | | |
| Piroe for Surridge on 14:11 - Jul 11 with 1436 views | angryjack |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:53 - Jul 10 by BryanSwan |
Got a lot more games under his belt now. I quite like him to be fair, more of a physical handful and definitely capable of scoring at championship level. May not be as technical as Piroe buts lets not forgot the success we've had with a more direct forward. (Scotland, Graham, Bony)
I'd imagine if we brought someone like that in we could expect to be starting with more width and pace out wide to make use of his talents too. |
That remark is totally wrong bony and Scotland and to some respect Graham are suited more to a footballing side as they hold the ball up and bring players into the game,and keep ball moving,the opposite of direct,direct forwards are the ones who run the channels for the ball over the top,them 3 forwards mentioned played in the vest footballing teams we have had under Rodgers Laudrup and martinez | | | |
| Piroe for Surridge on 14:15 - Jul 11 with 1433 views | raynor94 |
| Piroe for Surridge on 14:04 - Jul 11 by Badlands |
I get your point about being more direct but comparing Surridge with Bony, Scotland and Graham is too far a stretch for me.
We appear to have brought in Yates ... less productive and shorter and older than Cullen so, unless we are keeping Whittaker our attacking height has been lowered even more. |
How is Yates less productive than Cullen? |  |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 14:39 - Jul 11 with 1417 views | BryanSwan |
| Piroe for Surridge on 14:11 - Jul 11 by angryjack |
That remark is totally wrong bony and Scotland and to some respect Graham are suited more to a footballing side as they hold the ball up and bring players into the game,and keep ball moving,the opposite of direct,direct forwards are the ones who run the channels for the ball over the top,them 3 forwards mentioned played in the vest footballing teams we have had under Rodgers Laudrup and martinez |
It cannot be wrong as it is just an opinion.
I don't believe Graham nor Scotland played in many footballing sides before joining us but were moulded into it. Could be the same for Surridge, a few years older still has the physical attributes to be able to play off. He won't be the player we saw last time who was still learning.
If Surridge comes in, alongside Ginelly and Yates at least we will have more attacking options than last season. | |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 16:00 - Jul 11 with 1367 views | Badlands |
| Piroe for Surridge on 14:15 - Jul 11 by raynor94 |
How is Yates less productive than Cullen? |
Goals per minute | |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 16:15 - Jul 11 with 1356 views | raynor94 |
| Piroe for Surridge on 16:00 - Jul 11 by Badlands |
Goals per minute |
What a poor comparison to use, didn't you reckon Harris was more productive than Piroe?
Cullen and Harris have splinters | |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 17:19 - Jul 11 with 1312 views | onehunglow |
For once I’m content to let the manager simply get on with it.
Whether Cullen was more productive than Yates or Whittaker was sulking for HIM we will never know.
I believe Whittaker was treated with utter contempt and notwithstanding Fireboys chat with opposition fans ,somebody will get the benefit of Whitaker’s talent .
Footballers are often flaky feckwits ,let’s face it ,and many can’t see further than their next tattoe.
Any offers for Cullen ? | |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 01:27 - Jul 12 with 1212 views | RhonddaSwans |
| Piroe for Surridge on 16:15 - Jul 11 by raynor94 |
What a poor comparison to use, didn't you reckon Harris was more productive than Piroe?
Cullen and Harris have splinters |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 22:50 - Jul 12 with 1117 views | Badlands |
| Piroe for Surridge on 16:15 - Jul 11 by raynor94 |
What a poor comparison to use, didn't you reckon Harris was more productive than Piroe?
Cullen and Harris have splinters |
But you are right goals perr minute of play is a really poor comparison of strikers. What on earth was I thinking🤦â€â™‚ï¸?
I almost suggested Benda was a better keeper than Fisher because he had a higher percentage of saves per time played. 🙊 | |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 23:42 - Jul 12 with 1062 views | BryanSwan |
| Piroe for Surridge on 22:50 - Jul 12 by Badlands |
But you are right goals perr minute of play is a really poor comparison of strikers. What on earth was I thinking🤦â€â™‚ï¸?
I almost suggested Benda was a better keeper than Fisher because he had a higher percentage of saves per time played. 🙊 |
In isolation any stat is a very poor comparison. The nature of being at clubs at different ends of the XG table would would indicate that Cullen is on the end of better chances, which is backed up by the fact that he outshoots Yates on a per 90 basis and has a higher number of shots from both within the 6 yard box and the penalty area. | |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 10:24 - Jul 13 with 983 views | raynor94 |
| Piroe for Surridge on 23:42 - Jul 12 by BryanSwan |
In isolation any stat is a very poor comparison. The nature of being at clubs at different ends of the XG table would would indicate that Cullen is on the end of better chances, which is backed up by the fact that he outshoots Yates on a per 90 basis and has a higher number of shots from both within the 6 yard box and the penalty area. |
Just look at the minutes played by each player | |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 07:29 - Jul 15 with 864 views | builthjack |
Sounds like Surridge is off to be a country singer. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Piroe for Surridge on 08:03 - Jul 15 with 825 views | jojaca |
News gone quiet on Piroe.... |  |
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| Piroe for Surridge on 09:27 - Jul 15 with 770 views | jack247 |
On the Whittaker point
Played out of position - definitely.
Not given the game time he would have liked - definitely.
Personality clash with Martin - unconfirmed but I can certainly buy that.
However, none of that exonerates making Conor Hourihane look like Roy Keane. He came into the team after the window shut and played like he was trying not to get injured. That’s an abysmal attitude however desperate people are to blame Martin for everything. Just contrast that to the effort Manning put in at the same time.
If he stays (and if teams are judging him on how he played for us he will be) he’s going to have to apply himself much better.
Real shame because he is clearly talented. | | | |
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