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What is your second sport.
at 17:25 5 Jun 2024

IOMTT is the biggest event on my sporting calendar, closely followed by the Manx GP, NW200 etc. Everything else is quite far behind. I had some fast laps on a solo hanging onto Dave Roper around Barber in Alabama which was an experience. Also done a bit of sidecar swinging which is an itch I want to scratch some more. A mate won a race at the Pre-TT classic this year which I've now got an eye on. Also hope to go to Goodwood one day as a participant.
Watch a bit of BSB & Australian Superbikes as I've spent time with some of the top guys competing in those.....Moto GP I pick up in fits and starts. Father-in-law is mad for F1 so I try to keep up with that.
Otherwise, boxing is my favourite sport to watch/follow.
Mad for Darts atm with Luke Littler. Have a dart board and improved a lot during covid. Was the U12 pool Champion at our local club a couple of years running. Been to darts & snooker a few times at various venues.
Mrs SH is into track and field, I've always loved the Olympics, and Diamond League is a good day out
Watched a lot of Rugby league when living in that part of the world (Cas Tigers supporter, sort of, not really bothered anymore) - Did a Broncos game at Trailfinders before Covid, but that is the last Rugby game I went.
The Superbowl is a thing in my house but struggle to keep up with/care about the regular season. I absolutely love the new 3x3 Basketball, NBA is OK but too much of it.
My tolerance for cricket is constantly increasing as I age.
Football I was not great at but got carried through school & youth teams by my mate who ended up pro. Through him I saw things about football I didn't and still don't like. Now I'm kind of disillusioned with/sick of it.
The opposite is true of Motorsports, I was pretty unimpressed by it all as a youngster but the older I get the more I can't help but admire it.
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 14:13 5 Jun 2024

Are you seriously calculating demand based on how many jibbers there were? If not, how did you work this out please?

Southampton and Leeds sold out their allocations....Any empty seats at that I'm guessing are Corporates who couldn't be arsed with a Second division match. Man Utd have more fans in London than Real Madrid has in Madrid. And I see a quite disturbing amount of Man City merchandise in London these days.
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 14:06 5 Jun 2024



I've already said I think the issue was with the event management and not just the crowd behavior. The behavior, while not ideal and definitely more vibrant than the vast, vast majority of events that've taken place at Wembley Stadium since the rebuild.....Needs to be managed. The Oasis gigs at Wembley in 2009 were also pretty vibrant with open drug taking and some gratuitous violence. Notting Hill Carnival is the same every August Bank Holiday. Several festivals in Finsbury Park every summer. No one cares. No one makes documentaries about those because it is/was not trendy to demonize those people.

The mentality of "Why should stewards deal with crowd control when they only get 12 quid an hour" is exactly the kind of excuse making that has got us to this point. And yes, the Netflix bods who produced this "documentary" are indeed "woke"
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 23:05 3 Jun 2024

What? You mean to tell me you're aware of "psycho security teams at a handful of grounds" but can't think of a single rule they impose on people a little unreasonably?

Come on Konk, I know you're woke but I didn't think you were as bad as Barry with the sheer dishonesty.
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 23:04 3 Jun 2024

And the hourly rate at which football stewards should be held at least partly accountable for 6000 fans jibbing into a match is......
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 18:17 3 Jun 2024

Yeah, in London that's really not that much of a difference. After tax, which is far more reliable evidence than your "Overtime etc" - it's sod all.

Of course, you already know the point is not about the pay itself but the level of accountability that the pay comes with. You won't touch on that part tho because you know I'm right.
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:34 3 Jun 2024

Are you seriously coming on the internet in 2024 and supporting police brutality? Did George Floyd teach you nothing?

No but seriously, football is adult entertainment for adults, it's not Disney on ice. I expect security to be taken seriously, but not to the degree that they feel they can force you to follow stupid rules. Steward it like you would a rave or festival.
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:18 3 Jun 2024

Who is being a bully? What are you talking about?

Wembley gets a bit vibrant for certain cup final days.....Everyone can see it needs better stewarding.......What is your problem with that?
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:16 3 Jun 2024

No point arguing with dishonest people. We do hold certain professions accountable for failing to meet standards. Army Officers. Nurses. Prison Officers. Increasingly even Police Officers.

Stewarding just isn't one of them, and apparently, that's OK with people on here, they'd rather see football fans get the blame. Glad to clear that up.
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:05 3 Jun 2024

I'll let you keep editing this until you get your story straight.

Edit - No it isn't. This is a precise example of what I said in my post. You're just playing semantics because you've been caught deriving meaning from my posts that they don't actually contain. I'm sure this isn't the first time either.
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:00 3 Jun 2024

Not really. Some people are held accountable when they fail to do their job. Others aren't. And it has nothing to do with what they are paid. See also; politicians, social services, chief medical officers etc.....

The rest of your post is just "Why isn't everyone more woke and just do what they're told, like me?"
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 16:44 3 Jun 2024

Don't talk utter bullshit, Barry. Come on, be honest for once.

https://www.liverpoolworld.uk/news/merseyside-nurse-struck-off-after-neglect-cha
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 15:34 3 Jun 2024

Nurses are contracted to 37.5 hour weeks, not 40. You might need to redo your sums. After deductions, it's not that much more, certainly when you factor in the time/cost to qualify, level of responsibility etc.

If a nurse neglects her job and somebody dies, do we just accept it and say it's a consequence of low pay? I doubt it. But stewards fail to do their job and we routinely just blame it on low pay.
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The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 13:36 3 Jun 2024

For what it's worth - The difference in pay between a Wembley steward and a Band 5 Registered Nurse at Northwick Park is about 4 quid an hour. Is the nurse, and all they have to put up with, really only worth 4 quid an hour more than the steward? I'm guessing the difference will be similar to an entry-level police officer. Not exactly worlds apart.

There's probably also a question around, are we recruiting the right types of people into these stewarding jobs? Well since we're not allowed to ask these questions, as it undermines the diversity = strength thing, we get 60-year-old ladies on the front line instead. And people take the piss because of it.

Finally, I'm sure it's important to note, that this was a playful and mostly peaceful jibbing, not a Far-right coked-up organized mass-scale jibbing fuelled by racism. So, you know, let's not overreact.
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League cup being messed about with
at 21:14 31 May 2024

Really? All of that stuff is just noise imo. Irrelevant.

When we get beyond the 3rd round of anything, we're all desperate to win it. FA Youth Cups and Hong Kong 7-a-side Development tournaments included.
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General Election Thread
at 19:53 31 May 2024

Well the Universities thing is just another ticking timebomb waiting to go off. What will the parents say when they realise that 2:1 from the Uni of Westminster is worthless and the entire thing was done by AI. Chinese students walking around with English Lit degrees, barely able to speak a word of English. Completely mad.

Most of the Chinese students I've met see it as their route out of China, which is also pretty sad, really.
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at 19:35 31 May 2024

Yes it is very simple. The NHS does hundreds, if not thousands of these transfers per month. If an agency worker is there 37.5 or more hours per week, it's inevitable they'll be willing to go full time. Where they are not, I agree there must be some level of corruption happening.

If they are ad-hoc workers, that's something else and can still be managed far more cheaply via the Bank than it would via Agency. NHS also steals hundreds of Agency workers each month and makes them Bank Only (Same 0 hour contract, just with NHS rather than their agency)
Perhaps you meant to answer the original post on this? To be clear my post clearly says "Full time agency Workers" - Not agency workers who do ad-hoc shifts on a work-when-you-like basis (Which the NHS also supports via the Bank so no real need to use Agency if the NHS was up to scratch, which it isn't)
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at 19:27 31 May 2024

Well you were absolutely bang on.
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at 19:24 31 May 2024

Er, the, how do you call them, "Adults in the room" are

Anyway, I think this is all just a distraction. The idea the Chinese can't just reproduce any part they want for any machine they want, at raw material cost, is fairly laughable. So the idea it's being done for "profit" is equally laughable.

I also reckon that if the water company is privatized and owned by somebody responsible, let's call him "Sir John of Water" - That's not a bad thing either. Prevents bloat.

What I'd like to understand is what any of us think Labour is going to improve about this situation? They're as infested with Chinese assets as the Tories are. So back to the topic of the General election, and back to my original theme on this thread - The LabCon Uniparty must die before we go anywhere positive.
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at 19:03 31 May 2024

I came up with a couple of quite obvious examples that immediately jumped to mind when people are claiming there's been no investment in infrastructure. The only reading I've done on this sewage spill is via the BBC, so not exactly far-right capitalist think tanks.

My issue with Chinese involvement is that China is constantly fcking with us. It's blatant, it's undeniable at this point, but we'll keep denying it until we're all dead.
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