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Reply | At the right price.
at 07:48 14 Jun 2024
We got percentages of anything above the original fee. So if the buying club sold for more than they bought a player from Dale then we got that percentage. If there was then a sell on in the next deal (Lambert going from Southampton to Liverpool) we got a percentage of a percentage.
That’s why the deals can be very lucrative above an original fee.
Out of interest where are the percentage figures for the Lambert and Hogan deals coming from? Is anyone actually sure how much we made on any of the transfers? [Post edited 14 Jun 7:57]
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Reply | At the right price.
at 18:21 13 Jun 2024
Going off the fact that the Dunphy and Parkin/Hill era when we were seen as a well run lower league club with a model where producing and improving players to sell and benefit long term from was out model. Lambert/ALF/Murray/Hogan/Dawson etc all brought in a total running into millions after they moved over a longer period of time. Of course we don’t know for certain, but it was a model we all accepted worked. Even if we’d have liked bigger initial fees. |
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Reply | At the right price.
at 15:20 13 Jun 2024
The fact remains that as a club, Dale have always benefitted more from add-ons. We’d have been in financial trouble a lot earlier if we hadn’t had that model in place. It worked.
There are examples of some not coming to fruition of course (Matheson, Adshead), but imagine if we’d insisted on 500k from Bristol Rovers and they agreed but with no sell on clause.
Is a 750k today with nothing in the future better than 300k today and a possible future 2.5 million ? All about the details of each deal. |
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Reply | At the right price.
at 13:29 13 Jun 2024
I’m sure we have asked for more money on initial fees down the years, and on occasion we should have got more at that stage. Balancing that against the fact that add-ons will always be the most lucrative part of the deal for a club like us is the point. And we have, more often than not, got that right. |
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Reply | At the right price.
at 20:04 12 Jun 2024
Except Lambert and Le Fondre were sold under totally different circumstances and in both cases we made much more than the initial fees because of the add ons - which might have been less of the original fee was larger.. It’s all relative and it’s hard to compare the modern game with the past and what fees should be at our level now. 300-500k might be about right if the rest of the deal adds up.
You have faith in the current regime making the right decisions for the club and the player. |
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Reply | Signing Incoming
at 19:37 4 Jun 2024
It’s an interesting signing as Gordon progressed well at the end of the season and was a consistent player at right back. It could be an indication where we may be more flexible tactically as Gordon has played centrally, so he could play on the right of a back three and TAR at wing back - something Keohane is capable of on the other side. |
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Reply | What does Jim need ?
at 14:44 1 Jun 2024
Has he signed a new deal for Wolves? Only had a quick look and it says his contract expires at the end of the month. |
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Reply | What does Jim need ?
at 14:08 1 Jun 2024
And yet Mitchell has proven to be effective when we have gone direct in behind. The biggest change on that front was losing Moulden. Have a feeling he could be the literal no.1 target this summer. |
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Reply | What does Jim need ?
at 13:30 1 Jun 2024
Whilst sharing the concerns around inflexibility in how we play, especially when it’s been proven we are better when we are mixing up our style, the end of season results and commitment from the club and the Ogdens have established McNulty’s position.
It would undermine and weaken that position if any changes to the coaching/first team management set up occurred without him initiating them. So it’s a non-starter.
The main wish is he acknowledges supporter feelings and utilises the more positive aspects of our play, more regularly. |
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Reply | Season Ticket Prices & Details
at 16:36 28 May 2024
It’s understandable that a significant regime change will lead to a period of assessment, with some things maybe under review. However, it’s really hoped that the fans meeting next Monday will see the beginning of a significant change in approach to maximising what resource we do have to engage the fans and the town. At the moment it’s got a feeling of we’re all waiting to see what the future looks like.
Monday should give us all a better picture. |
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Reply | "the Wall of Rochdale"
at 17:53 25 May 2024
I enjoyed the Cup Final. Two different styles and United won it by going direct and defending well.
Guardiola out-thought himself and lost it by playing a normal back four for the first half. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 11:00 18 May 2024
Oh yeah.
Still, not sure why it matters to the crowd counters of Bury whether we discussed Galloway’s comments when they meant nothing to the football club. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 07:11 18 May 2024
Galloway has been discussed on here. His presence at a supporters meeting ahead of the EGM included.
If his little speech outside the ground wasn’t specifically mentioned on the board (cba checking) it’s because we all knew the club wasn’t “saved” at that stage and there was plenty more that was needed to be done. His views have been an irrelevance throughout, so not sure why we’d be too concerned about this particular involvement.
That hard work to save our club continued of course and we are where we are today. Meanwhile, your club was lost due to splits in the fanbase, a useless supporters organisation and the inability to challenge owners who provided you with a winning team on a budget that would see the club’s demise.
But you know that.
Just like everyone present at Wythenshawe for your new club’s cup final knew every other person there. Apparently. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 22:57 16 May 2024
“general response online”
Well that settles it then. Case closed. With that sort of evidence to back up an argument it’s beyond any doubt whatsoever. Cheers Sherlock.
Please come back soon. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 22:52 16 May 2024
Ah, so it’s not just fans running on the pitch then?
And then they say this:
“ As a club, we deplore this behaviour and as well as supporting the police, we will be issuing the most serious of sanctions.”
To confirm, have you checked with EVERY Bury fan “their” that day whether they had seen those involved before and they weren’t Bury fans, as per your previous statement? [Post edited 16 May 22:53]
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 22:37 16 May 2024
The story in that link posted by Bury (A)FC includes the following:
“ The police will now be working through a process of identifying the people that encroached on the playing surface when we scored, and also the images on social media of fans fighting.” |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 22:16 16 May 2024
So why did AFC release this statement?
No one who was “their” had seen them before? You’ve asked everyone then? |
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Reply | Club Statement. Deal done
at 13:13 10 May 2024
The past is indeed the past, but rewriting history to suit an argument doesn’t help achieve progress in the future either.
Nobody was under any illusions about the club’s position over the last few months, the facts are that the Ogdens have provided us with a future with help from many others in getting the deal done. Some of the other events leading up to this point in time don’t reflect well on our club, but that’s probably part of any journey that ends with a positive conclusion. |
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Reply | Club Statement. Deal done
at 17:39 9 May 2024
Undoubtedly. Decisions that make sense rather than words that sound good but have little substance when it comes to reality.
They had to go up and should have a year ago at least. |
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Reply | Club Statement. Deal done
at 17:31 9 May 2024
Well done to all concerned who focused on finding the best route forward for the club. This is undoubtedly it.
With the new blood on the board and having prominent roles it’s clear we are going to find a different, hopefully positive way, of operating and maximising everything that’s good about RAFC. |
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