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Reply | 🔴🔵🟡🟢⚫️ Who are you voting for ?
at 11:58 20 Jun 2024
Firstly, I think that extra tax needs to be generated to fund priorities so it’s a case of asking if this is the right way to do it. In this specific instance I’d say that adding VAT to private school to pay for 6500 extra teachers in the state system is a pretty good idea (providing that the recruitment is targeted on both areas as subject in need)
Then it’s looking at the arguments against it, most of which I don’t agree with:
1. The people who it will affect are not wealthy, it’s those who scrimp and save that will lose out.
I don’t accept that you’re not wealthy if you’ve been able to afford £40k a year to send two children to private school. That means you’ve been able to save more than the teacher teaching the class will earn in a year. Or the salary of an average policeman. Or junior doctor.
I’d add that private schools have increased in cost at a crazy rate recently. When was the outrage then? Why weren’t people up in arms for the parents who could only pay £36k last year?
2. Numbers will fall and private schools will have to close.
Maybe, but you’d have to have a look at the numbers. Private school have been closing steadily and consistently for decades so maybe they should look at their offer. Birthrates are falling and this is due to continue so you expect the numbers going in to decline as they are in state schools.
3. State schools won’t cope.
Yes they will because of the falling birth rate. The system absorbed 20,000 Ukranians with ease. In fact, this will help state schools overall
4. Private schools have charitable states dur top their out reach work supporting state schools.
No. They do hardly anything in my experience. |
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Reply | 🔴🔵🟡🟢⚫️ Who are you voting for ?
at 07:33 20 Jun 2024
From a purely personal point of view WR, the shadow education Secretary of State is very impressive, the policies for schools moving forward are excellent (bar two crazy daft ones which I can live with for the overall direction of travel). |
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Reply | Nigel Farage
at 21:37 19 Jun 2024
Do you think he actually wants to be Prime Minister?
I don’t. Not for one second. |
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Reply | These idiots JUST STOP OIL
at 21:22 19 Jun 2024
I don’t understand what they’re trying to achieve.
We’re a pretty broad church on here yet their actions are universally thought both pathetic and infuriating. |
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Reply | Nigel Farage
at 21:17 19 Jun 2024
I don’t think they’re bigoted or racist, just wrong.
Farage has put all of ills of this country onto immigrants and that’s just so simplistic.
Your example of the benefit scrounger we all know is important but raises two points for me.
1. That we all know one leads to many people dramatically overestimating the bill for benefit fraud
2. How many of these people we all know are immigrants? |
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Reply | 🔴🔵🟡🟢⚫️ Who are you voting for ?
at 18:04 19 Jun 2024
I saw quite a nice analogy today for those thinking of not voting.
‘A political party is a public bus not a taxi. It won’t take you exactly where you want go but it may be a stop that’s closer to your desired destination.’ |
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Reply | Nigel Farage
at 18:02 19 Jun 2024
You’re right IMO.
But in any civilised society there needs to be a socialist safety net. When times are tough the size of that net is what causes angst.
This sees the rise of the populist right who build enemies to blame. They presents benefit figures as supporting scroungers and in some (too many) it is the case, but the benefits bill is far larger for those in work than not. A vast portion of the benefits bill going out is the state pension but its rarely mentioned.
This gets people riled up allows the likes of Farage to say things like this and be believed:
Straight out of the Trump playbook.
I can understand a vote for Reform as people would like to put some disrupters in the the HoC, but Reform to be in charge? Don’t be daft. |
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Reply | Nigel Farage
at 19:20 17 Jun 2024
TBF that was said as just one example.
The biggest sector for migrant workers is health and care. |
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Reply | Nigel Farage
at 18:54 17 Jun 2024
I appreciate that blanketing Reform voters as racist is very naive and not very clever.
However… if you read today’s manifesto and can’t see the figures are ludicrous then I really don’t know what to say. |
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Reply | Cow update
at 18:45 17 Jun 2024
The first time I saw it my first thought was “Thank goodness they stopped it”.
I’ve seen nothing since to change my mind. |
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Reply | Multinationals supporting Pride events
at 22:43 16 Jun 2024
As per usual, no actual experience but a search on the internet has thrown up an example 7000 miles away.
If you keep searching for stuff like this and clicking on similar links, the search algorithms will direct you to similar posts.
That could be why you think it’s such a widespread issue. |
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Reply | Multinationals supporting Pride events
at 21:53 16 Jun 2024
I doubt that’ll affect her.
It’s far more likely that the LBGT champion in her school will teach her about the 72 genders which she’ll reject and identify as an otter. Or something. |
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Reply | Multinationals supporting Pride events
at 21:32 16 Jun 2024
There’s no need for straight pride events I wouldn’t have thought.
I can’ think of anything they’ve been discriminated against.
It’s never been illegal, subject to social disapproval, abused due to their sexuality, had different laws in regards to legal standing, been prevented from adopting, been prevented from certain jobs, still prevented to travelling to some countries and these are just off the top of my head.
If pride celebrates progress and leads to further tolerance then crack on.
There seems to be a lot of offence taken on behalf of other people. Anyone have an example of someone negatively effected by a pride march? |
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Reply | Multinationals supporting Pride events
at 11:10 16 Jun 2024
I keep banging this drum Rayns but some seem not to get it.
A bit like the suggestion of what happened at Swansea Pride when in didn’t.
We’ve in the recent past we had a thread on Primary school LBGT champions. Nobody could find one.
We had another thread on how 72 genders are taught in schools. Nobody could find an example even though schools publish their curriculum.
Another about ‘gay’ books in primary schools yet nobody could share an inappropriate one being used.
Of course if you search hard enough and in the right places you’ll find extremes but it’s not the norm.
It must be exhausting for some to be so furious about stuff that’s not happening. |
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Reply | European Elections
at 21:33 15 Jun 2024
Is that the right page in the link, Cat?
I can’t see anything on there that shows that their vote has fallen for under 50s. |
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