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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 23:05 3 Jun 2024
What? You mean to tell me you're aware of "psycho security teams at a handful of grounds" but can't think of a single rule they impose on people a little unreasonably?
Come on Konk, I know you're woke but I didn't think you were as bad as Barry with the sheer dishonesty. |
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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 23:04 3 Jun 2024
And the hourly rate at which football stewards should be held at least partly accountable for 6000 fans jibbing into a match is...... |
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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 18:17 3 Jun 2024
Yeah, in London that's really not that much of a difference. After tax, which is far more reliable evidence than your "Overtime etc" - it's sod all.
Of course, you already know the point is not about the pay itself but the level of accountability that the pay comes with. You won't touch on that part tho because you know I'm right. |
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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:34 3 Jun 2024
Are you seriously coming on the internet in 2024 and supporting police brutality? Did George Floyd teach you nothing?
No but seriously, football is adult entertainment for adults, it's not Disney on ice. I expect security to be taken seriously, but not to the degree that they feel they can force you to follow stupid rules. Steward it like you would a rave or festival. [Post edited 3 Jun 17:45]
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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:18 3 Jun 2024
Who is being a bully? What are you talking about?
Wembley gets a bit vibrant for certain cup final days.....Everyone can see it needs better stewarding.......What is your problem with that? |
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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:16 3 Jun 2024
No point arguing with dishonest people. We do hold certain professions accountable for failing to meet standards. Army Officers. Nurses. Prison Officers. Increasingly even Police Officers.
Stewarding just isn't one of them, and apparently, that's OK with people on here, they'd rather see football fans get the blame. Glad to clear that up. |
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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:05 3 Jun 2024
I'll let you keep editing this until you get your story straight.
Edit - No it isn't. This is a precise example of what I said in my post. You're just playing semantics because you've been caught deriving meaning from my posts that they don't actually contain. I'm sure this isn't the first time either. [Post edited 3 Jun 17:54]
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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 17:00 3 Jun 2024
Not really. Some people are held accountable when they fail to do their job. Others aren't. And it has nothing to do with what they are paid. See also; politicians, social services, chief medical officers etc.....
The rest of your post is just "Why isn't everyone more woke and just do what they're told, like me?" [Post edited 3 Jun 17:02]
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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 15:34 3 Jun 2024
Nurses are contracted to 37.5 hour weeks, not 40. You might need to redo your sums. After deductions, it's not that much more, certainly when you factor in the time/cost to qualify, level of responsibility etc.
If a nurse neglects her job and somebody dies, do we just accept it and say it's a consequence of low pay? I doubt it. But stewards fail to do their job and we routinely just blame it on low pay. [Post edited 3 Jun 15:46]
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Reply | The Final: Attack on Wembley - Netflix
at 13:36 3 Jun 2024
For what it's worth - The difference in pay between a Wembley steward and a Band 5 Registered Nurse at Northwick Park is about 4 quid an hour. Is the nurse, and all they have to put up with, really only worth 4 quid an hour more than the steward? I'm guessing the difference will be similar to an entry-level police officer. Not exactly worlds apart.
There's probably also a question around, are we recruiting the right types of people into these stewarding jobs? Well since we're not allowed to ask these questions, as it undermines the diversity = strength thing, we get 60-year-old ladies on the front line instead. And people take the piss because of it.
Finally, I'm sure it's important to note, that this was a playful and mostly peaceful jibbing, not a Far-right coked-up organized mass-scale jibbing fuelled by racism. So, you know, let's not overreact. |
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Reply | League cup being messed about with
at 21:14 31 May 2024
Really? All of that stuff is just noise imo. Irrelevant.
When we get beyond the 3rd round of anything, we're all desperate to win it. FA Youth Cups and Hong Kong 7-a-side Development tournaments included. |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 19:53 31 May 2024
Well the Universities thing is just another ticking timebomb waiting to go off. What will the parents say when they realise that 2:1 from the Uni of Westminster is worthless and the entire thing was done by AI. Chinese students walking around with English Lit degrees, barely able to speak a word of English. Completely mad.
Most of the Chinese students I've met see it as their route out of China, which is also pretty sad, really. [Post edited 31 May 20:05]
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 19:35 31 May 2024
Yes it is very simple. The NHS does hundreds, if not thousands of these transfers per month. If an agency worker is there 37.5 or more hours per week, it's inevitable they'll be willing to go full time. Where they are not, I agree there must be some level of corruption happening.
If they are ad-hoc workers, that's something else and can still be managed far more cheaply via the Bank than it would via Agency. NHS also steals hundreds of Agency workers each month and makes them Bank Only (Same 0 hour contract, just with NHS rather than their agency)
Perhaps you meant to answer the original post on this? To be clear my post clearly says "Full time agency Workers" - Not agency workers who do ad-hoc shifts on a work-when-you-like basis (Which the NHS also supports via the Bank so no real need to use Agency if the NHS was up to scratch, which it isn't) [Post edited 31 May 19:40]
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 19:24 31 May 2024
Er, the, how do you call them, "Adults in the room" are
Anyway, I think this is all just a distraction. The idea the Chinese can't just reproduce any part they want for any machine they want, at raw material cost, is fairly laughable. So the idea it's being done for "profit" is equally laughable.
I also reckon that if the water company is privatized and owned by somebody responsible, let's call him "Sir John of Water" - That's not a bad thing either. Prevents bloat.
What I'd like to understand is what any of us think Labour is going to improve about this situation? They're as infested with Chinese assets as the Tories are. So back to the topic of the General election, and back to my original theme on this thread - The LabCon Uniparty must die before we go anywhere positive. |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 19:03 31 May 2024
I came up with a couple of quite obvious examples that immediately jumped to mind when people are claiming there's been no investment in infrastructure. The only reading I've done on this sewage spill is via the BBC, so not exactly far-right capitalist think tanks.
My issue with Chinese involvement is that China is constantly fcking with us. It's blatant, it's undeniable at this point, but we'll keep denying it until we're all dead. |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 18:45 31 May 2024
Alternatively; we become a proper country that takes responsibility and raises our own children, rather than one that relies on immigration and defers all the important decisions to a responsible adult. It's that simple.
Gus_IOM said something on here once about being infantilized as a society and since the day I read it, the evidence has not stopped unfolding before my eyes. [Post edited 31 May 18:47]
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 18:38 31 May 2024
Still don't understand why we need to act like we're living through the great stink, rather than just saying what the issue is.
Bit like Covid, I guess. [Post edited 31 May 18:45]
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 18:14 31 May 2024
Yeah, about 27 pages after the water thing was first mentioned. |
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