| Small boats week. 14:17 - Aug 11 with 4144 views | Gwyn737 |
Going well.
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| Small boats week. on 15:16 - Aug 11 with 2308 views | Flashberryjack |
You seem to be enjoying the failure of this government to stop the boats Gwyn. |  |
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| Small boats week. on 16:06 - Aug 11 with 2275 views | Gwyn737 |
| Small boats week. on 15:16 - Aug 11 by Flashberryjack |
You seem to be enjoying the failure of this government to stop the boats Gwyn. |
The opposite.
I’m absolutely furious that they insist on playing stupid, unnecessary and unachievable culture war games instead of doing what is blatantly needed.
The barge is a stunt. Nothing more. | | | |
| Small boats week. on 16:51 - Aug 11 with 2244 views | Flashberryjack |
| Small boats week. on 16:06 - Aug 11 by Gwyn737 |
The opposite.
I’m absolutely furious that they insist on playing stupid, unnecessary and unachievable culture war games instead of doing what is blatantly needed.
The barge is a stunt. Nothing more. |
Any idea as to what they should do Gwyn ?
Because it seems whatever they try to do is derided by Labour or challenged by human right lawyers then blocked by echr. | |
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| Small boats week. on 17:13 - Aug 11 with 2229 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Small boats week. on 16:51 - Aug 11 by Flashberryjack |
Any idea as to what they should do Gwyn ?
Because it seems whatever they try to do is derided by Labour or challenged by human right lawyers then blocked by echr. |
They could call a general election, that'd make most of us happy. | | | |
| Small boats week. on 17:15 - Aug 11 with 2229 views | Gwyn737 |
| Small boats week. on 16:51 - Aug 11 by Flashberryjack |
Any idea as to what they should do Gwyn ?
Because it seems whatever they try to do is derided by Labour or challenged by human right lawyers then blocked by echr. |
Not an exhaustive list but:
1. Dramatically increase the speed of processing so that those who can work can and help the economy.
2. Stop putting people up in barges/hotels/former military bases at ridiculous cost. We managed to throw up nightingale hospitals for covid really quickly. Prefab solutions (without giving contracts to your mates) would help.
3. Go back to France and say that would would like to take them up on the offer to have a detention centre in their side of their channel and yes to their offer to man it.
4. Ensure legal routes are available. This would build political capital for stronger measures for illegal immigrants
5. Restore and backfill the cuts to border force to bolster capacity.
There’s also the things they shouldn’t keep doing:
1. Dog whistle policies like Rwanda/ascension island/barges that are impossible to achieve.
2. Stop being silly about the EHCR. if we leave, that’ll be us in a club of three with Russia and Belarus. Speaks volumes.
3. Stop victimising lawyers who are doing their job. It’s not their fault the government keeps trying to break international law. | | | |
| Small boats week. on 17:21 - Aug 11 with 2226 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Small boats week. on 17:15 - Aug 11 by Gwyn737 |
Not an exhaustive list but:
1. Dramatically increase the speed of processing so that those who can work can and help the economy.
2. Stop putting people up in barges/hotels/former military bases at ridiculous cost. We managed to throw up nightingale hospitals for covid really quickly. Prefab solutions (without giving contracts to your mates) would help.
3. Go back to France and say that would would like to take them up on the offer to have a detention centre in their side of their channel and yes to their offer to man it.
4. Ensure legal routes are available. This would build political capital for stronger measures for illegal immigrants
5. Restore and backfill the cuts to border force to bolster capacity.
There’s also the things they shouldn’t keep doing:
1. Dog whistle policies like Rwanda/ascension island/barges that are impossible to achieve.
2. Stop being silly about the EHCR. if we leave, that’ll be us in a club of three with Russia and Belarus. Speaks volumes.
3. Stop victimising lawyers who are doing their job. It’s not their fault the government keeps trying to break international law. |
All of that and ABSOLUTELY DEFINITELY number 4. Then have a massive advertising campaign.
Speeding up processing is also crucial, we have thousands of immigrants from Albania and WHY? | | | |
| Small boats week. on 19:02 - Aug 11 with 2192 views | shingle |
| Small boats week. on 15:16 - Aug 11 by Flashberryjack |
You seem to be enjoying the failure of this government to stop the boats Gwyn. |
If that is the case he must be well happy with Labour the way they are going about stopping anything the Tories try, both parties are as useless and bad for this country as each other. | | | |
| Small boats week. on 19:05 - Aug 11 with 2189 views | shingle |
| Small boats week. on 17:21 - Aug 11 by SullutaCreturned |
All of that and ABSOLUTELY DEFINITELY number 4. Then have a massive advertising campaign.
Speeding up processing is also crucial, we have thousands of immigrants from Albania and WHY? |
The Albanians are coming here to get away from all the tourists going there on day trips from Corfu these tourists are putting them in extreme danger. | | | |
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| Small boats week. on 19:08 - Aug 11 with 2184 views | Gwyn737 |
| Small boats week. on 19:02 - Aug 11 by shingle |
If that is the case he must be well happy with Labour the way they are going about stopping anything the Tories try, both parties are as useless and bad for this country as each other. |
The Tories have a massive majority.
In what way are labour stopping them do anything? | | | |
| Small boats week. on 19:52 - Aug 11 with 2155 views | majorraglan |
| Small boats week. on 17:15 - Aug 11 by Gwyn737 |
Not an exhaustive list but:
1. Dramatically increase the speed of processing so that those who can work can and help the economy.
2. Stop putting people up in barges/hotels/former military bases at ridiculous cost. We managed to throw up nightingale hospitals for covid really quickly. Prefab solutions (without giving contracts to your mates) would help.
3. Go back to France and say that would would like to take them up on the offer to have a detention centre in their side of their channel and yes to their offer to man it.
4. Ensure legal routes are available. This would build political capital for stronger measures for illegal immigrants
5. Restore and backfill the cuts to border force to bolster capacity.
There’s also the things they shouldn’t keep doing:
1. Dog whistle policies like Rwanda/ascension island/barges that are impossible to achieve.
2. Stop being silly about the EHCR. if we leave, that’ll be us in a club of three with Russia and Belarus. Speaks volumes.
3. Stop victimising lawyers who are doing their job. It’s not their fault the government keeps trying to break international law. |
Some very good points made.
It’s absolutely astounding to think that the backlog of cases number to be processed has increased from around 39000 in 2017 to around 170,000 today. The government’s handling of this issue has been shambolic and they are responsible for the situation we are in now.
Is this barge going to make a difference? I don’t think it will, it’s nothing more than a prison ship and it’s going to be full in a few days time and we’ll be back to square one. We need a proper policy, processes in place etc and we need people employed to deal with the applications. That will cost the government money which they don’t want to spend, but it’s cheaper than paying millions everyday to hotels. We’ve had people on here quite rightly whinging about Drakers and finances, but this government’s approach to and spending on immigration is costing us far more money than people couple imagine. | | | |
| Small boats week. on 20:22 - Aug 11 with 2141 views | Gwyn737 |
| Small boats week. on 19:52 - Aug 11 by majorraglan |
Some very good points made.
It’s absolutely astounding to think that the backlog of cases number to be processed has increased from around 39000 in 2017 to around 170,000 today. The government’s handling of this issue has been shambolic and they are responsible for the situation we are in now.
Is this barge going to make a difference? I don’t think it will, it’s nothing more than a prison ship and it’s going to be full in a few days time and we’ll be back to square one. We need a proper policy, processes in place etc and we need people employed to deal with the applications. That will cost the government money which they don’t want to spend, but it’s cheaper than paying millions everyday to hotels. We’ve had people on here quite rightly whinging about Drakers and finances, but this government’s approach to and spending on immigration is costing us far more money than people couple imagine. |
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| Small boats week. on 20:25 - Aug 11 with 2135 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Small boats week. on 17:15 - Aug 11 by Gwyn737 |
Not an exhaustive list but:
1. Dramatically increase the speed of processing so that those who can work can and help the economy.
2. Stop putting people up in barges/hotels/former military bases at ridiculous cost. We managed to throw up nightingale hospitals for covid really quickly. Prefab solutions (without giving contracts to your mates) would help.
3. Go back to France and say that would would like to take them up on the offer to have a detention centre in their side of their channel and yes to their offer to man it.
4. Ensure legal routes are available. This would build political capital for stronger measures for illegal immigrants
5. Restore and backfill the cuts to border force to bolster capacity.
There’s also the things they shouldn’t keep doing:
1. Dog whistle policies like Rwanda/ascension island/barges that are impossible to achieve.
2. Stop being silly about the EHCR. if we leave, that’ll be us in a club of three with Russia and Belarus. Speaks volumes.
3. Stop victimising lawyers who are doing their job. It’s not their fault the government keeps trying to break international law. |
Gwyn - take a bow that man.
Outstanding post. |  |
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| Small boats week. on 20:31 - Aug 11 with 2131 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Small boats week. on 19:02 - Aug 11 by shingle |
If that is the case he must be well happy with Labour the way they are going about stopping anything the Tories try, both parties are as useless and bad for this country as each other. |
Labour did not create the situation on that ship.
Thats gross incompetence by the Tory government.
Wasting our money on gimmick after gimmick, because they cant take back control after all.
The UK government are an international embarrassment. GTTO. | |
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| Small boats week. on 20:44 - Aug 11 with 2123 views | onehunglow |
Don’t come here .
Stay in France,Belgium,Holland or any European country on the mainland that offers safety from persecution and war .
The trip to our Tory infested island cannot surely be worth it.
Lawyers !
What? | |
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| Small boats week. on 21:13 - Aug 11 with 2113 views | raynor94 |
| Small boats week. on 20:31 - Aug 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Labour did not create the situation on that ship.
Thats gross incompetence by the Tory government.
Wasting our money on gimmick after gimmick, because they cant take back control after all.
The UK government are an international embarrassment. GTTO. |
How do you take back control, when you have these so called human rights lawyers fighting them every step of the way.
Record numbers arriving again today, So we are are going to exceed the £6 million a day pretty soon.
What's your opinion on the Stradey park hotel? |  |
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| Small boats week. on 22:13 - Aug 11 with 2075 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Small boats week. on 21:13 - Aug 11 by raynor94 |
How do you take back control, when you have these so called human rights lawyers fighting them every step of the way.
Record numbers arriving again today, So we are are going to exceed the £6 million a day pretty soon.
What's your opinion on the Stradey park hotel? |
Shame that Brexit took us out of the Dublin agreement really, dont you think ?
The Dublin III Regulation enabled the UK to return some asylum seekers to EU Member States without considering their asylum claims. It also provided a legal route for reuniting separated asylum-seeking family members in the UK. The Regulation will no longer apply in the UK from the end of 2020.
Still people knew exactly what they were voting for….
Maybe best if we rejoined the EU as Brexit has been a generational failure. | |
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| Small boats week. on 09:10 - Aug 12 with 2036 views | raynor94 |
Surely this can't be sabotage 😉 irrespective can see some big claims going in. | |
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| Small boats week. on 09:44 - Aug 12 with 2029 views | onehunglow |
| Small boats week. on 21:13 - Aug 11 by raynor94 |
How do you take back control, when you have these so called human rights lawyers fighting them every step of the way.
Record numbers arriving again today, So we are are going to exceed the £6 million a day pretty soon.
What's your opinion on the Stradey park hotel? |
For lawyers, this is big business .
Business means they ain’t doing it for a favour
They make out as if they are
Selves first,using misery and pain to maximise earnings | |
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| Small boats week. on 09:46 - Aug 12 with 2029 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Small boats week. on 22:13 - Aug 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Shame that Brexit took us out of the Dublin agreement really, dont you think ?
The Dublin III Regulation enabled the UK to return some asylum seekers to EU Member States without considering their asylum claims. It also provided a legal route for reuniting separated asylum-seeking family members in the UK. The Regulation will no longer apply in the UK from the end of 2020.
Still people knew exactly what they were voting for….
Maybe best if we rejoined the EU as Brexit has been a generational failure. |
If only the EU were more competent at dealing with criminal gangs enabling the trafficking of people across an entire continent in exchange for money we wouldn’t need the Dublin agreement or the Biffy Clyro barge or whatever it’s called.
This is a mess of entirely their own making. |  |
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| Small boats week. on 09:52 - Aug 12 with 2026 views | onehunglow |
| Small boats week. on 09:46 - Aug 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If only the EU were more competent at dealing with criminal gangs enabling the trafficking of people across an entire continent in exchange for money we wouldn’t need the Dublin agreement or the Biffy Clyro barge or whatever it’s called.
This is a mess of entirely their own making. |
If only the EU and us had the guts to fight these vicious Gangs .
Worst thing for us was the Communist bloc breaking up because ,basically,they were kept inside their own countries .
Same with China | |
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| Small boats week. on 10:32 - Aug 12 with 2010 views | KeithHaynes |
| Small boats week. on 17:13 - Aug 11 by SullutaCreturned |
They could call a general election, that'd make most of us happy. |
Not sure everyone would be at the end of the votes count. |  |
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| Small boats week. on 17:00 - Aug 12 with 1948 views | Flashberryjack |
| Small boats week. on 17:15 - Aug 11 by Gwyn737 |
Not an exhaustive list but:
1. Dramatically increase the speed of processing so that those who can work can and help the economy.
2. Stop putting people up in barges/hotels/former military bases at ridiculous cost. We managed to throw up nightingale hospitals for covid really quickly. Prefab solutions (without giving contracts to your mates) would help.
3. Go back to France and say that would would like to take them up on the offer to have a detention centre in their side of their channel and yes to their offer to man it.
4. Ensure legal routes are available. This would build political capital for stronger measures for illegal immigrants
5. Restore and backfill the cuts to border force to bolster capacity.
There’s also the things they shouldn’t keep doing:
1. Dog whistle policies like Rwanda/ascension island/barges that are impossible to achieve.
2. Stop being silly about the EHCR. if we leave, that’ll be us in a club of three with Russia and Belarus. Speaks volumes.
3. Stop victimising lawyers who are doing their job. It’s not their fault the government keeps trying to break international law. |
With respect, that's a load of utter nonsense. | |
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| Small boats week. on 17:20 - Aug 12 with 1940 views | Gwyn737 |
| Small boats week. on 17:00 - Aug 12 by Flashberryjack |
With respect, that's a load of utter nonsense. |
Why wouldn’t each of those first 5 points make a positive difference.
What would you suggest instead? [Post edited 12 Aug 2023 17:21]
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| Small boats week. on 18:16 - Aug 12 with 1917 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Another overloaded boat capsized in the channel again today. At least six dead.
These traffickers have to be stopped. | |
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| Small boats week. on 19:43 - Aug 12 with 1891 views | Dr_Winston |
| Small boats week. on 09:46 - Aug 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If only the EU were more competent at dealing with criminal gangs enabling the trafficking of people across an entire continent in exchange for money we wouldn’t need the Dublin agreement or the Biffy Clyro barge or whatever it’s called.
This is a mess of entirely their own making. |
One of Merkels more idiotic decisions was to open the doors and wave everyone in.
Not quite as mental as shutting down Germany's nuclear power stations and becoming utterly dependent on Russian fossil fuels, but it's up there. |  |
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