| Minneapolis 09:55 - Jan 11 with 16594 views | Gwyn737 |
Surprised there’s not been a thread on this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
I’ve waited a bit to see what came out but it seems it’s just masked military style men on the streets shooting an unarmed woman trying to drive a way.
The interpretation of events from Trump and particularly Vance are so fantastical you’d laugh if it want so sad.
It’s the Emperor’s new clothes.
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| Minneapolis on 22:11 - Jan 25 with 1390 views | Boundy |
| Minneapolis on 16:58 - Jan 25 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Another media frenzy, 10s of thousands killed in Iran by the authorities. Obviously the wrong kind of news. |
A white guy / women shot by police for acting like planks ( not condoning nor judging )which can’t be said for too many posting on this thread) and the world stops , thousands potentially murdered by their government and the world continues to spin . Nought queer as folk. | |
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| Minneapolis on 22:32 - Jan 25 with 1364 views | scruffyjack |
| Minneapolis on 20:18 - Jan 25 by Dr_Winston |
The Epstein files were available to the Biden administration. Why didn't they release them?
ICE are in Red Cities. Red mayors and Governors just don't make a habit of riling up their local populations to oppose them. |
Trump’s campaign was run on the release of the Epstein, MLK & JFK files. In fact why didn’t he release Epsteins in his first term? | | | |
| Minneapolis on 07:51 - Jan 26 with 1237 views | trampie |
Seen reports that the Minneapolis Police Chief has said that his officers were blocked from accessing the scene of Pretti's shooting by federal agents, even though they had a search warrant.
People are concerned that there is a massive amount of spin and hiding evidence of both Good's and Pretti's shootings by Trump's government. |  |
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| Minneapolis on 12:26 - Jan 26 with 1196 views | ncswan |
| Minneapolis on 22:32 - Jan 25 by scruffyjack |
Trump’s campaign was run on the release of the Epstein, MLK & JFK files. In fact why didn’t he release Epsteins in his first term? |
Why didn't Biden and his administration release them? | | | |
| Minneapolis on 13:43 - Jan 26 with 1156 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Minneapolis on 22:32 - Jan 25 by scruffyjack |
Trump’s campaign was run on the release of the Epstein, MLK & JFK files. In fact why didn’t he release Epsteins in his first term? |
Possibly because there was ongoing legal action, Epstein was still alive in prison awaiting trial until 2019, Maxwell was also under investigation as well as others. |  |
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| Minneapolis on 17:27 - Jan 26 with 1102 views | scruffyjack |
| Minneapolis on 12:26 - Jan 26 by ncswan |
Why didn't Biden and his administration release them? |
No idea, you? | | | |
| Minneapolis on 21:37 - Jan 26 with 1044 views | ncswan |
| Minneapolis on 17:27 - Jan 26 by scruffyjack |
No idea, you? |
I read that Trump's AG Pam Bondi has over 400 attorneys working on making sure all sensitive info regarding the many victims (my daughter says there's a rumor that one of her school classmates is one of these victims) is redacted. I've also heard that even though 1000's of pages in the files have been released, that what's been released is only 1% of the total information! I've also heard that Biden didn't want to release the files since a lot of high profile Democrats are seemingly implicated (Bill Clinton for example). And then of course Trump ran on making the files transparent but I've heard that there's been been some pushback by some Republicans, probably for the same reason Biden didn't want to release the files. From Google Gemini when I asked this question:"Why have both the Trump & Biden administrations been reluctant to release the Epstein files?" Answer: "The reluctance or delay in full disclosure stems from a mix of legal, procedural, and political factors." | | | |
| Minneapolis on 06:52 - Jan 27 with 983 views | Dr_Winston |
I suspect that both the Dems and GOP would really rather the whole Epstein thing just went away. For sure there are plenty of people on both sides of the political spectrum who were much closer to him than they care to acknowledge now.
I see no point in assuming that Trump is particularly vulnerable to exposure from it in comparison. |  |
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| Minneapolis on 12:29 - Jan 28 with 800 views | KeithHaynes |
| Minneapolis on 12:26 - Jan 26 by ncswan |
Why didn't Biden and his administration release them? |
You answered that perfectly 👍 |  |
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| Minneapolis on 15:55 - Jan 28 with 768 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Minneapolis on 06:52 - Jan 27 by Dr_Winston |
I suspect that both the Dems and GOP would really rather the whole Epstein thing just went away. For sure there are plenty of people on both sides of the political spectrum who were much closer to him than they care to acknowledge now.
I see no point in assuming that Trump is particularly vulnerable to exposure from it in comparison. |
The problem is trying to discern who amongst those linked with him were knowing and complicit in his activities. I mean Stephen hawking was a regular visitor to the island but I wouldn’t put him in the bracket of “top shagger” somehow, although you never know. Ditto Michael Jackson, that guy seemed to be as asexual as they come (no pun intended).
It’s a dangerous road to go down to assume that anyone linked with him was involved in indulging in the sex trafficking trade but on the other hand when the plane is widely know as “the Lolita express” and the island is known as “orgy island” then how much of a defence do you really have? | |
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| Minneapolis on 17:20 - Jan 28 with 747 views | Dr_Winston |
| Minneapolis on 15:55 - Jan 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The problem is trying to discern who amongst those linked with him were knowing and complicit in his activities. I mean Stephen hawking was a regular visitor to the island but I wouldn’t put him in the bracket of “top shagger” somehow, although you never know. Ditto Michael Jackson, that guy seemed to be as asexual as they come (no pun intended).
It’s a dangerous road to go down to assume that anyone linked with him was involved in indulging in the sex trafficking trade but on the other hand when the plane is widely know as “the Lolita express” and the island is known as “orgy island” then how much of a defence do you really have? |
Yep.
When you've got such luminaries of the modern left like Noam Chomsky and Billy Clinton taking trips on the Lolita express you begin to understand why most of the calls for the release of the files are coming from online activists rather than major party figures.
I don't think many would come out of it well. | |
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| Minneapolis on 12:56 - Jan 29 with 669 views | AnotherJohn |
I am still of the opinion that shooting Alex Pretti was wrong, not to mention unprofessional, but videos are emerging that show activists regularly showing up to engage aggressively with ICE and put themselves at risk. Here is a film of Mr Pretti damaging an ICE SUV over a week before his death, before being detained and immediately released. The reporter claims that the holstered gun can be seen in this clip, so it may have been carried routinely when Mr Pretti joined in protests. That seems very unwise.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news
Edit - longer version plus additional material added.
https://www.bing.com/videos/ri
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| Minneapolis on 15:03 - Jan 29 with 634 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Some woman had had half her hand blown off after picking up a live flashbang/smoke grenade with the intention of throwing it back at the police/ice.
These people are idiots. | |
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| Minneapolis on 17:11 - Jan 29 with 613 views | Gwyn737 |
| Minneapolis on 12:56 - Jan 29 by AnotherJohn |
I am still of the opinion that shooting Alex Pretti was wrong, not to mention unprofessional, but videos are emerging that show activists regularly showing up to engage aggressively with ICE and put themselves at risk. Here is a film of Mr Pretti damaging an ICE SUV over a week before his death, before being detained and immediately released. The reporter claims that the holstered gun can be seen in this clip, so it may have been carried routinely when Mr Pretti joined in protests. That seems very unwise.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news
Edit - longer version plus additional material added.
https://www.bing.com/videos/ri
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The open carrying of the gun seems to have caused a bit of a fracture over there with the NRA not very happy with politicians saying if you carry a gun to a protest you’re less safe. | | | |
| Minneapolis on 18:13 - Jan 29 with 595 views | Wingstandwood |
| Minneapolis on 12:56 - Jan 29 by AnotherJohn |
I am still of the opinion that shooting Alex Pretti was wrong, not to mention unprofessional, but videos are emerging that show activists regularly showing up to engage aggressively with ICE and put themselves at risk. Here is a film of Mr Pretti damaging an ICE SUV over a week before his death, before being detained and immediately released. The reporter claims that the holstered gun can be seen in this clip, so it may have been carried routinely when Mr Pretti joined in protests. That seems very unwise.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news
Edit - longer version plus additional material added.
https://www.bing.com/videos/ri
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'Grande performance' from a stereotypical lefty nut-job, on a crusade, fighting on behalf of child rapists, child sodomisers, murderer's and other assorted vermin. Pond-feeding scum whom? Would not give two ****'s if he was shot anyhow.
The guy was in full out F.A.F.O, Darwin Award, Stupid people win stupid prizes mode. Hellbent on causing as much trouble as possible, and with gratuitous provocation and intent upon those wishing to rid society of absolute evil.
And lets be perfectly honest here i.e. 99.9% of us, would, if ordered by law and order to "move on" and stay away from situations that were/are of absolutely nothing to do with ourselves? Would? Do so without any hesitation or question.
BUT yet you get idiots sticking up for the deceased, whilst showing vastly more concern about justice impeding agitators, than the victims of terrible crimes. |  |
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| Minneapolis on 03:24 - Jan 30 with 522 views | AnotherJohn |
| Minneapolis on 17:11 - Jan 29 by Gwyn737 |
The open carrying of the gun seems to have caused a bit of a fracture over there with the NRA not very happy with politicians saying if you carry a gun to a protest you’re less safe. |
True, but my argument is that as an empirical matter a gun puts one at additional risk in these situations. Interestingly, in the earlier incident it looks likely that ICE saw the gun but did nothing and indeed were surprisingly tolerant in letting Pretti go after he had done significant damage to the SUV (those tail light units are expensive). Yes, ICE have been heavy handed, but the optics of how the protestors behave are pretty awful too. Can they say a sentence without an expletive? | | | |
| Minneapolis on 03:34 - Jan 30 with 516 views | Demitrius |
| Minneapolis on 03:24 - Jan 30 by AnotherJohn |
True, but my argument is that as an empirical matter a gun puts one at additional risk in these situations. Interestingly, in the earlier incident it looks likely that ICE saw the gun but did nothing and indeed were surprisingly tolerant in letting Pretti go after he had done significant damage to the SUV (those tail light units are expensive). Yes, ICE have been heavy handed, but the optics of how the protestors behave are pretty awful too. Can they say a sentence without an expletive? |
Excellent points John. They always defend the indefensible in pursuit of their warped cloud cuckooland agendas, both here and in the wider Anglosphere they are the enemy within. [Post edited 30 Jan 9:21]
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| Minneapolis on 10:15 - Jan 30 with 473 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Minneapolis on 17:11 - Jan 29 by Gwyn737 |
The open carrying of the gun seems to have caused a bit of a fracture over there with the NRA not very happy with politicians saying if you carry a gun to a protest you’re less safe. |
It always confuses me how Americans believe that owning guns can protect them against their government. The government has tanks, drones, cruise missiles and apache helicopters.
I can understand the argument that you can have them for home defence, especially if you’re in a rural area in the middle of nowhere, or somewhere where bears and mountain lions roam nearby.
But there is absolutely no reason why a person should be allowed to roam the streets of heavily populated urban cities armed to the teeth. Every one of us is capable of anger or panic and I doubt there’s any individual on this forum who has never acted rashly or not done something stupid when in one of those states of emotion.
It’s a stupid law that causes nothing but violence, carnage and pain. | |
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| Minneapolis on 11:58 - Jan 30 with 446 views | Gwyn737 |
| Minneapolis on 03:24 - Jan 30 by AnotherJohn |
True, but my argument is that as an empirical matter a gun puts one at additional risk in these situations. Interestingly, in the earlier incident it looks likely that ICE saw the gun but did nothing and indeed were surprisingly tolerant in letting Pretti go after he had done significant damage to the SUV (those tail light units are expensive). Yes, ICE have been heavy handed, but the optics of how the protestors behave are pretty awful too. Can they say a sentence without an expletive? |
I think most moderate people wouild say that the ICE response in the first incident was totally proprtionate.
The second one was not. | | | |
| Minneapolis on 12:21 - Jan 30 with 434 views | Dr_Winston |
| Minneapolis on 10:15 - Jan 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It always confuses me how Americans believe that owning guns can protect them against their government. The government has tanks, drones, cruise missiles and apache helicopters.
I can understand the argument that you can have them for home defence, especially if you’re in a rural area in the middle of nowhere, or somewhere where bears and mountain lions roam nearby.
But there is absolutely no reason why a person should be allowed to roam the streets of heavily populated urban cities armed to the teeth. Every one of us is capable of anger or panic and I doubt there’s any individual on this forum who has never acted rashly or not done something stupid when in one of those states of emotion.
It’s a stupid law that causes nothing but violence, carnage and pain. |
I suspect a significant proportion of the gun carrying population believe, with perhaps some justification given their own national history and more recent events (Iraq, Afghanistan), that a well armed people can certainly cause major headaches for a controlling power via insurgency even if their chances of winning a conventional battle are slim. [Post edited 30 Jan 12:21]
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| Minneapolis on 12:35 - Jan 30 with 423 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Minneapolis on 11:58 - Jan 30 by Gwyn737 |
I think most moderate people wouild say that the ICE response in the first incident was totally proprtionate.
The second one was not. |
Carrying a gun and shouting fcuk you repeatedly into the faces of armed government agents is not the best way to spend your days off, he did not deserve to be killed but boy was he pushing his luck.
He should have been arrested days before he was shot for his behaviour, I think that if I vandalised a police car and kept shouting fcuk off in the faces of policemen I may be detained. |  |
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| Minneapolis on 12:43 - Jan 30 with 415 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Minneapolis on 12:35 - Jan 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Carrying a gun and shouting fcuk you repeatedly into the faces of armed government agents is not the best way to spend your days off, he did not deserve to be killed but boy was he pushing his luck.
He should have been arrested days before he was shot for his behaviour, I think that if I vandalised a police car and kept shouting fcuk off in the faces of policemen I may be detained. |
Yep I agree that he shouldn’t have been killed, but this narrative being pushed about him being this lovely cuddly gentle perfect angel who wouldn’t hurt a fly doesn’t really hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever. | |
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| Minneapolis on 13:00 - Jan 30 with 406 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Minneapolis on 12:43 - Jan 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Yep I agree that he shouldn’t have been killed, but this narrative being pushed about him being this lovely cuddly gentle perfect angel who wouldn’t hurt a fly doesn’t really hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever. |
I don't think many people scrutinise what they are told three days, it seems to be a case of getting very, very angry about something you don't fully understand based on a story you've been told by someone who you don't know. This seems to be a form of idiocy. | |
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| Minneapolis on 13:54 - Jan 30 with 390 views | Gwyn737 |
| Minneapolis on 12:43 - Jan 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Yep I agree that he shouldn’t have been killed, but this narrative being pushed about him being this lovely cuddly gentle perfect angel who wouldn’t hurt a fly doesn’t really hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever. |
I don't think many on here have presented him in this way. Most seem to think his actions were at best ill advised but he didn't deserve to be killed. | | | |
| Minneapolis on 23:39 - Jan 30 with 337 views | ncswan |
| Minneapolis on 13:54 - Jan 30 by Gwyn737 |
I don't think many on here have presented him in this way. Most seem to think his actions were at best ill advised but he didn't deserve to be killed. |
We really don't know all of the details about Pretti's death. A lot of what we hear and see what's reported by liberal news sources is pure speculation, with most of it slanted to get the viewing public to think he was a gentle person.
However, when we see earlier videos of him cursing ICE officers, kicking tail lights out, violently resisting ICE officers, we know that ain't true. It should make everyone with a clear head wait for all of the details in his deadly skirmish. Is it likely he was subdued in his last confrontation with ICE, or was he the violent individual we saw in a previous video.
I agree that it's sad when anyone dies under these circumstances but we all should take a step back and let the proper authorities do what they said they are going to do, which is do an investigation into his shooting.
BTW, the two ICE officers involved in his shooting have been placed on administrative leave while the Justice Dept. investigates. | | | |
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