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Removal of the current CEO
at 23:04 24 Nov 2019

First of all my name isn't Billy so that's one fact you've got wrong for starters along with everything else you've said

Be honest you aren't a Dale fan and you haven't a clue as to what goes on at the club

You now say " there are plenty of people on this board who know the truth and i am not at liberty to state what that is". Well that really is hilarious

Kindly give us the names of "people who have in the past, taken action against the board ready to do the same again."

Kindly tell us where the money is coming from for "some much needed backing for new recruits in January"

Kindly tell us if you are a member of the Trust (I am)

Your say "Nobody is against the Trust but more direct action is needed" Kindly give us details of the "direct action" you are suggesting and no doubt the Trust will be more than happen to look at them

How many people are you speaking for when you say "we will make sure he leaves" and at the same time explain in detail what "exposing him for what he is" means

Tell us details of the 'fraud' you seem to know all about

Apart from yourself who else are you speaking for when you say "and people have not forgotten how CD was treated by these frauds and karma is a bastard when served correctly"

Go on, give us a detailed reply and give us even more laughs than you have already
Removal of the current CEO
at 21:58 24 Nov 2019

Are you actually a Dale supporter?

I have never read such utter garbage for a long time and I say this as a long time supporter and shareholder

Your penultimate sentence suggests you aren't - as you haven't a clue as to what has happened at the club in recent times

You seem to be suggesting we spend money we don't have

On our crowds and budget that we are in Division One is a miracle in itself

You should be thankful we are in the Football League
tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 13:45 28 Aug 2019

As a schoolboy I used to go to Bury and/or Bolton if I couldn't get to Spotland (on the bus). In the 1960s I was at the last game of the season. BWFC were at Charlton and needed a win to have a chance of promotion (they lost 2-0) and Wimbledon were beginning their rise up the Football League and were at Gigg. Wimbledon won 4-1 and I can still remember one of their goals at the Cemetery end and I was standing at the half-way line opposite the main stand. I also went to a night game when BFC played Chelsea. Tommy Docherty went to see Bolton's Wyn Davies who was scoring lots of goals but he was marked out of the game by Colin Waldron who he signed instead!!
As far as I am concerned it is just as much a disaster for us (and all the local football league teams and football in general) as it is for Bury and their supporters. We've lost around £70000 in gate receipts this season - times this over a number of seasons and we are talking a lot of money which we badly need
Only the most biased and ignorant Dale supporter will be happy at what has happened. Hopefully they will be able to do a Wimbledon and get back in the Football League
We should thank ourselves luckly that it is BFC and not us who have been taken over by people who don't give one jot about the club and its history - who mortgage the club, take out loans at massive interest rates, spend money they don't have and owe millions to local companies, hmrc and Bury Council
If nothing else the EFL should be 100% reorganised so that never again can people like Day and Dale be allowed to own a football club
NCFC & Chalky
at 20:14 4 May 2019

You are a true NCFC supporter Chalky and you can hold your head up high despite today's result

I feel sorry for you and all the other NCFC supporters who have been badly let down by your owners in recent times

I hope you will be back in the football league in the not too distant future

It's always good to read your comments on this forum
Someone better at maths than me
at 19:28 24 Apr 2019

If we lose both games

If Wimbledon, Bristol Rovers, Gillingham, Southend, Scunthorpe and Shrewsbury all win both their remaining games and Wycombe beats Fleetwood and Accrington beats Portsmouth (and also say Walsall beats Peterborough not thta it matters)

andd you'ld get massive odds for all the above to happen but if it did the table will read

14 Bristol Rovers 46 +0 56
15 Shrewsbury 46 -6 56
16 Accrington Stanley 46 -20 54
17 Southend 46 -10 53
18 Wycombe 46 -12 53
19 AFC Wimbledon 46 -20 52
20 Scunthorpe 46 -25 52
21 Rochdale 46 -32 51
22 Plymouth 46 -20 50
23 Walsall 46 -24 46
24 Bradford 46 -32 37

Even if we got a point at Charlton we would be on 52 points and go down on goal difference

So a draw against Southend would keep us up as the bottom five would then be

20 Rochdale 46 -31 52
21 Southend 46 -11 51
22 Plymouth 46 -20 50
23 Walsall 46 -24 46
24 Bradford 46 -32 37
Bolton again
at 11:15 18 Apr 2019

Simon Jordan says Bolton Wanderers’ prospective new buyer is EVEN WORSE than current owner Ken Anderson.
English businessman Laurence Bassini ‘won’t have Bolton’s best interests in mind’, according to the talkSPORT pundit, who added: ‘just ask Watford fans’.
Former Watford owner Bassini was revealed as the man set to save Bolton from impending liquidation during the club’s latest High Court hearing on Wednesday.
Bolton chairman Ken Anderson is eager to sell the club
But the news has not been welcomed with open arms due to Bassini’s chequered history, in terms of both his personal finances and his ill-fated spell in charge at Vicarage Road, which lasted all of 13 months.
The 48-year-old has TWICE been declared bankrupt and was banned from owning an EFL club for three years in 2013 for alleged financial misconduct.
He has since been cleared to return to football by the EFL and now looks set to take over at Bolton, having vowed to take the Trotters back to the Premier League.
But former Crystal Palace owner Jordan believes his arrival could be bad news for the in-trouble club.
“I know him, I dealt with him when I was trying to do a deal on Portsmouth in 2012,” he told talkSPORT host Jim White on Wednesday.
“And I’m sorry, but if Bolton fans think they’ve got a problem with Ken Anderson, they’re going to have a bigger problem with Laurence Bassini.
Bolton have been given extra time to pay their debts
“It’s no surprise Ken has been keeping this under wraps, now that we know who it potentially is.
“I think Bolton fans deserve better than this. Everyone deserves an opportunity to rehabilitate and reform, but this is not a guy who is going to go into Bolton with their bests interests in mind – just ask Watford fans.
“I’ve dealt with him, I know what he was all about when we tried to a deal on Portsmouth.
“It’s not sour grapes, I’ve got no issue with what he is or isn’t.
“But, my God, if they [Bolton fans] think they’re out of the fire now, they’ve got no idea.”
FA Cup attendance 1949
at 22:58 18 Oct 2018

I have the official match programme (No. 0105). They must have printed thousands - it cost 2d. Eight pages but actually just one sheet of paper - but when folded measures about 8 and 1/2 inches x 5 and 1/2 inches. So quite clever and no staples needed

There are photos of each of the eleven Dale players with their name and position, followed by an Editoral which includes

"Never before in the history of local soccer football has such a big crowd collected for a match as there will be on this ground this afternoon and it will make a sight to be remembered"

"To Notts County, the oldest league club in the country, we offer a hearty welcome. We give them credit for being the drawing power with their "star" players who have put up the attendance and receipt receipt records and we hope the game is worthy of the event"

British Rail advert Rochdale to Manchester first-class 2s 3d and third class 1s 6d
They had a football excursion from Rochdale to Southport on 27 Dec which cost 5s 3d (I assume return). Departed 12.04 and returned at 4.50 (no added on time in those days fortunately!)

I have the following match details

Saturday 10 December 1949
FA Cup Round 2
Spotland, Rochdale

Rochdale’s highest attendance Att: 24,231

Rochdale 1 (Brown)
Notts County 2 (Lawton, Johnson)


1 Trevor Churchill
2 Bill Watson
3 Harry Hubbick
4 Eric Wood
5 Walter Birch
6 George McGeachie
7 Jackie Arthur
8 Jack Livesey
9 Jack Connor
10 Cyril Brown
11 Tom Dryburgh

Notts County
1 Roy Smith
2 Tommy Deans
3 Norman Rigby
4 Harry Chapman
5 Alec Simpson
6 Harry Adamson
7 Frank Broome
8 Jackie Sewell
9 Tommy Lawton
10 Billy Evans
11 Tom Johnston

Forgotten where I got the above match details from (years ago) but I hope correct

The match programme team line-up agrees Dale but for Notts County

5 Baxter (I have Alec Simpson played)

4 is spelt Chapmen (I have Chapman)

The full Third Division table (Northern Section) was also show (Doncaster top 28 pts from 18 games then Dale 24 points from 19 games) and the Lancashire Combination (Dale Reserves 5th below Nelson, Ashton Utd, Prescot Cables and Darwen. Teams below Dale Reserves included Fleetwood, Morecambe and Wigan Athletic)

The half-time scoreboard (not sure which were FA Cup games) in the programme included Wolves v Bolton Wdrs, Notts Forest v Stockport Cty, Bury v Leeds, Crewe v Oldham Utd, Fulham v Man Utd, Huddersfield v Liverpool and Man City v WBA
Newspaper Coverage
at 17:28 19 Feb 2018

35.1% Rochdale had more possession against Spurs than Juventus had managed five days before (33.4%). They also had more crosses (16 to 11), more tackles (28 to 21) and won more duels (63 to 59) than the Italian champions

Cost of Dale team: £NIL
8 Free; 2 Academy (Cannon, Camps), 1 Loan (Humphrys)

Transfer fees spent in last 10 seasons: £466,000

Record signing £150,000 Paul Connor 2001

Cost of Spurs team: £124 million

Vorm (Swap); Trippier 3.5 mill; Foyth 8.5 mill; Alderweireld 12 mill; Rose 1 mill; Wanyama 11 mill; Winks (Academy); Sissoko 30 mill; Heung-min 22 mill; Moura 25 mill; Llourente 11 mill

Transfer fees spent in last 10 seasons: £666 million

Record signing £36 million Sanchez 2017 (from Ajax)
So proud
at 20:35 18 Feb 2018

Comments by other teams supporters

Great comeback by Rochdale, but it won't mean anything unless they can
follow it up by winning a trophy.

"We're the famous Tottenham Hotspur and we're going to Wembley" sing the Spurs fans Yes, you are. To play your replay against Rochdale.

Wonder if Rochdale will insist on spurs putting some mud down on their pitch for the replay

It's a great sport when a team can get the same result away at Juventus and Rochdale in the same week.

It's great for a team like Spurs to be able to host a side like Rochdale.

A 2-2 draw is fantastic result for Rochdale against Tottenham. A 2-2 draw is a fantastic result for Tottenham against Juventus. Rochdale are to Tottenham what Tottenham are to Juventus.

Another record-breaking game from Spurs. Came from behind to draw. First ever Premier League team to score twice against Rochdale.

I actually thought Rochdale were better than Juventus tbh

That's the magic of cup competitions. A small team from a **** part of England plays out of their skins in the biggest game of their lives to take a 2-2 draw back to Wembley, and then Rochdale do the same to them 5 days later.

It's official Rochdale are as good as Juventus!!

Tottenham's scheme to give lower league sides a day out at Wembley continues. What a manic end to the match. The home side hung in there and plenty of credit needs to go to them. Their fans are in dreamland.

BREAKING NEWS - Britain’s Dele Alli wins the gold for aerial ski dive with a reverse treble lay out with a 1440 off the rail in the Rochdale 2018 Winter Olympics

Spurs draw with the mighty Rochdale one of the greatest FA cup away performances in the history of the world

He literally hurls himself over the leg, after the Rochdale player has made contact with the *ground*. It’s absurd.

And people say the spirt of the FA Cup is dead. Tell that to those Rochdale fans.

Well done plucky little Spurs taking Rochdale to a Cup replay

With Spurs clearly the best team in the world on current form the logical conclusion from today is that Rochdale would compete easily in Serie A after matching the efforts of Juventus
at 17:20 10 Feb 2018

I agree that we shouldn't have any matches called off - or if we had then no more than Bolton/Bury/Blackburn/Oldham - but if we had drainage problems there was no margin for error - we can see the outcome

I cannot speak for Oldham but certainly Bury and Bolton (which I pass through numerous times each week) haven't had anything like as much rain as we've had in Rochdale in the last 2-3 months

With the weather as it is being in the foothills of the Pennines (five miles away ?) is one of the worse places to be if you want plenty of rain
at 16:16 10 Feb 2018

Just to give you some idea of how bad it has been in Lancashire since November 18. The West Lancs Football League - which includes clubs from north of Bolton to Fylde Coast (Blackpool) to the Lake District and up to Barrow

Nov 25 - 27 games out of 31 called off
Dec 9 - 25 games out of 29 called off
Dec 16 - 23 games out of 29 called off
Dec 23 - 13 games out of 19 called off
Dec 30 - all 20 games called off
Jan 20 - 23 games out of 28 called off
Jan 27 - 24 games out of 31 called off
Feb 3 - 22 games out of 28 called off
Today - 28 games out of 31 called off

Pitches just cannot cope with incessant rain for weeks on end. I have never known so such much rain, as we've had over the last three months, in the last 50 years !!

Some WLL clubs have only played 13 matches out of 34 - if the Dale have a fixture pile up it's nothing compared to the West Lancs League

Although (allegedly) errors seem to have been made with putting the right type of sand to help our pitch drain better there is only so much rain a pitch can take - make no mistake we have had masses more rain in this part or the world than anywhere else in the country !!
Goalkeeper situation
at 13:24 12 Mar 2017

Wilson seems harldy ever to comes off his line, not least for corner kicks, and doesn't command his area. His kicking in finding our players over the half-way line is not all that brilliant. He has made some excellent saves one on one

I would have Logan back in for the rest of the season if given the choice

What is does show is how consistent Josh was - he made the occasional error like all keepers (and the stick he got on this forum was utter nonsense !)
50 points in 34 games
at 13:18 12 Mar 2017

If our wins and losses had been spread more evenly throughout the season most Dale fans would be saying what a great season we are having - 34 games played and we've already got 50 points

If we can beat and/or get near to our 69 points from last season it will be a job well done

Steady improvement each season is good enough for me - which is what Hilly is aiming for

That we have 50 points already in this divison is a far greater achievement than getting 80+ points at the end of the season in divison 2 as far as I am concerned
Your thoughts on a fabulous game
at 09:48 5 Mar 2017

The referee made one or two strange decisions but he was certainly not the worst we've had this season

Andy Cannon was very lucky not to get sent off when he tackled Duffy on the touchline. I was a few yards away and Cannon was late with his challenge and went right on Duffy's ankle with his studs- well after the ball was on its way into the goal area. It could easily have been a broken ankle and Duffy certainly wasn't feinging injury as some Dale fans near me were saying he was to the referee
Your thoughts on a fabulous game
at 09:38 5 Mar 2017

But what impressed me most was the "technique" of our players. There can be very feam teams in this divison who are technically as good as we are

Our long passing from one side of the pitch to the other was superb along with our close control in midfield. Jamie Allen had a great game

It was also good to see our players bombing down the wings at every opportunity

If we get entertainment as good as we got yesterday for the rest of our home games, regardless of whether or not we get into the play-offs, I will be more than happy
The Pitch
at 21:22 10 Feb 2017

Great credit to the club for taking this action

It will not be cheap and no doubt a large six figure sum is involved - but then we almost certainly have never had such a large amount of money in Dale bank a/c [thanks to Scott Hogan]

Hopefully (baring a disastrous spell of weather in the coming weeks) it will mean at the end on the season there will be little work needed to be done on the pitch compared to previous seasons

Hopefully we can get all our injured players back asap to benefit from the 'new' pitch
How to run a football club ???
at 20:20 9 Feb 2017

From the Bolton News

FEARS over the financial stability of Bolton Wanderers have been raised again as the publication of the club’s accounts spilled over into a bitter boardroom row.

Auditors Deloitte predicted continued annual losses of £11m and refused to pass judgement on their ability to meet ongoing costs.

Phil Parkinson’s team currently stands third in the League One table and forecasts made in today’s accounts underline the urgent need for promotion, which would be worth around £5-6m.

It has been revealed a £5.5million loan from Prescot Business Park Ltd was due last month.

And the uncertainty has been magnified by a feud between co-owners Ken Anderson and Dean Holdsworth, which has spilled over into the public domain.

Both men traded statements today and are now threatening legal action against the other.

Holdsworth described Anderson’s allegations as “false and defamatory” and has vowed to take his argument to the Football League.

At the heart of the dispute is a high interest loan secured by Holdsworth’s Sports Shield company from BluMarble finance, which funded their takeover in March.

Anderson maintains that the amount loaned was £4million but that guarantees were supplied for £5m, while Holdsworth maintains the £5m was loaned in full, with £4m going into the club itself and £1m used to pay-off fees associated with the takeover.

Holdsworth says the terms were agreed in a Share Purchase Order signed in March, with a second SPA signed in May which “enriched” Anderson’s position as chairman and gave him the deciding vote in the boardroom.

Anderson admits there is a threat to the club if the finance company opts to call-in the debt, which had been due to be paid by March 26 this year but is now due in March, 2018. He has also pledged to take his argument to the court.

He said that there had been a failure to inform them that the loan obtained from BluMarble to Sports Shield on or about March 10, 2016, was repayable on March 26, 2016, only 16 days later.

He added that he believed that had subsequently changed to April 24, 2016, at an interest rate of 30 per cent, per annum.

He said that he did not know at the time about a subsequent side letter that he said had been signed with BluMarble.

Holdsworth responded in a statement to The Bolton News this afternoon.

It reads: “It is wrong of Ken Anderson to use the club’s website as his private mouthpiece to publish false and defamatory allegations about me.

“WI will not dignify his absurd accusations with a response in public. I am seeking legal advice on my options and am considering complaining to the Football League about Ken’s behaviour which is undoubtedly damaging the image and integrity of the club and the league.”

The accounts showed Anderson has committed £3.5m in interest free funding since the takeover but has also withdrawn exactly the same amount – leaving his net spend at zero.

Another major detail to emerge included the fact Wanderers received £5,350,000 in player sales – the majority of which came from Rob Holding, who moved to Arsenal in the summer, and Zach Clough, who signed on January 31 for Nottingham Forest.

The Bolton Wanderers Supporters’ Trust voiced their concern at today’s events and announced they would be meeting with chairman Anderson next Tuesday to put them to him in person.

“Whilst we are currently examining accounts and will make comments to our members as soon as possible, we are shocked and dismayed at the club owners’ public statements over the last 48 hours.

“This open conflict can only result in placing the club in a more precarious position than currently exists.

“We have a pre-arranged meeting with Mr Anderson on February 14 at which we hope to be able to obtain some further clarification on matters. We can make no further comment at this stage.”
Rochdale fronting the Super Bowl
at 16:19 8 Feb 2017

You obviously aren't aware of the Lancashire Wolverines who are based in Blackburn and play in the Premier Division North of the BAFA National Leagues. I have a friend who watches them home (and away if not too far to trvel) whenever he isn't watching local amateur football or cricket

There are plenty of people who watch and follow American Football teams in the UK and there are many UK University teams even though they don't get much coverage in the media

The local games take nothing like three hours to play (no TV advertisements) and they certainly don't 'all stand around after each play'

In the unlikely event of you ever watching an NFL game most teams these days have fewer 'breaks between each play' in order the tire out the opposition defense and to stop them bringing out replacement players
Dog botherers complaint.
at 15:23 30 Jan 2017

100% agreed - an utter disgrace and someone should be brought to account. We should be sending HTFC a full apology for this state of affairs

The photo suggest the seats haven't been cleaned in weeks if not months. We should be checking every seat in the ground, not just in the Wilbutts, before EVERY game to see all are clean and not damaged

If I was a Huddersfield fan, who had a ticket for any of these seats, I would be asking for a full refund

In the men's toilets in the Sandy the soap dispenser next to the sink has been empty for months on end
Rochdale's first Black player
at 15:02 30 Jan 2017

Page 91 Rochdale Who's Who 1939-1973 (by Steven Phillips) includes the following

Roderick Calvin Hilgrove (Cal) Symonds
Born Pembroke, Bermuda
Centre Forward
FL Apps/Gls 1/0
Total Apps/Gls 1/0
Career: Key West Rangers
(Bermuda), Dale 10.54 [1/-],
Pembroke Hamilton Club
(Bermuda) 10.55

Cricket for St. Georges, Bermuda (1950-69)
Pembroke Hamilton Club, coach to Bermuda
cricket team 1990s

"...Dale's first back player.

He became only the second Bermudan to become a professional footballer when he signed for Dale and made his debut in a friendly against Bury in November 1954. He played his single FL game at centre forward in a 2-0 defeat at Barrow the following September, but then returned to the Caribbean, where he worked as a taxi driver, rather then be called up for national service in the UK.

Retiring from football through injury, he subsequently concentrated on his cricket.
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