| Jake Burger 21:08 - Nov 26 with 4774 views | Delboy | I just loved Jakes interview after last night's game. I must admit I thought he might be feeling disillusioned this season with not playing as often as he may have expected. How wrong was I. He was articulate, speaking with real enthusiasm about the team, the manager and the closeness and belief of the squad. He also said how pleased he was to have Pritchard back in the team, a player with skill and experience and one he feels he can learn from. If anyone has a doubt about the strength of belief and unity that Jim has created in this group they should listen to this interview from a young player not currently in the starting lineup but who sees himself as part of something special. |  | | |  |
| Jake Burger on 12:50 - Nov 27 with 3415 views | bluevein64 | I was also very impressed with Jake Burger however, I'm still not so sure about Big Jim as I'm concerned that he'll find a way to screw things up ! |  | |  |
| Jake Burger on 13:07 - Nov 27 with 3368 views | Delboy |
| Jake Burger on 12:50 - Nov 27 by bluevein64 | I was also very impressed with Jake Burger however, I'm still not so sure about Big Jim as I'm concerned that he'll find a way to screw things up ! |
Perhaps it's just as well that the players seem to have more faith in him than you.😄 |  | |  |
| Jake Burger on 13:58 - Nov 27 with 3263 views | TalkingSutty |
| Jake Burger on 12:50 - Nov 27 by bluevein64 | I was also very impressed with Jake Burger however, I'm still not so sure about Big Jim as I'm concerned that he'll find a way to screw things up ! |
I think it's some.of the fans who are to blame and i include myself in that. McNulty was a rooky manager and he was fighting fires from the moment he took the job, with very little support around him, we expected too much from him. He now has some help and he will be benefitting massively as a result of that. Our game has progressed now, we look like a well oiled machine and certsinly well coached. The recruitment has been excellent and McNulty has fostered a fantastic team spirit, the players love him. He's a manager who is getting better and better and i have no qualms about saying he has proved me wrong...and i'm glad that he has. I think McNulty's biggest backer was Simon Gauge who appointed him, he also deserves some credit. [Post edited 27 Nov 14:00]
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| Jake Burger on 16:05 - Nov 27 with 3077 views | D_Alien |
| Jake Burger on 13:58 - Nov 27 by TalkingSutty | I think it's some.of the fans who are to blame and i include myself in that. McNulty was a rooky manager and he was fighting fires from the moment he took the job, with very little support around him, we expected too much from him. He now has some help and he will be benefitting massively as a result of that. Our game has progressed now, we look like a well oiled machine and certsinly well coached. The recruitment has been excellent and McNulty has fostered a fantastic team spirit, the players love him. He's a manager who is getting better and better and i have no qualms about saying he has proved me wrong...and i'm glad that he has. I think McNulty's biggest backer was Simon Gauge who appointed him, he also deserves some credit. [Post edited 27 Nov 14:00]
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Whilst i agree with most of that, especially the recruitment both on and off the pitch, like Bluevein, i'll reserve judgement until push really comes to shove at the stage where it really matters, in the Spring In the meantime, pleased with the progress this season and believe we should be looking to take that further in a way which means there won't be a "crunch" fixture at the very end. We know who we're scheduled to play on the last day of the season [Post edited 27 Nov 16:11]
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| Jake Burger on 16:06 - Nov 27 with 3080 views | rochedale |
| Jake Burger on 13:58 - Nov 27 by TalkingSutty | I think it's some.of the fans who are to blame and i include myself in that. McNulty was a rooky manager and he was fighting fires from the moment he took the job, with very little support around him, we expected too much from him. He now has some help and he will be benefitting massively as a result of that. Our game has progressed now, we look like a well oiled machine and certsinly well coached. The recruitment has been excellent and McNulty has fostered a fantastic team spirit, the players love him. He's a manager who is getting better and better and i have no qualms about saying he has proved me wrong...and i'm glad that he has. I think McNulty's biggest backer was Simon Gauge who appointed him, he also deserves some credit. [Post edited 27 Nov 14:00]
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He definitely deserves more credit than what he gets. To be sat at the top of a league where there are more teams on 2+ points per game than the whole of the 92 in the football league put together, is in it self a superb achievement, and we have 2 games in hand. And the football, for the majority of the time, has been excellent. Well done Jim, keep up the good work. Roll on Saturday. |  |
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| Jake Burger on 16:22 - Nov 27 with 2988 views | dingdangblue |
| Jake Burger on 16:05 - Nov 27 by D_Alien | Whilst i agree with most of that, especially the recruitment both on and off the pitch, like Bluevein, i'll reserve judgement until push really comes to shove at the stage where it really matters, in the Spring In the meantime, pleased with the progress this season and believe we should be looking to take that further in a way which means there won't be a "crunch" fixture at the very end. We know who we're scheduled to play on the last day of the season [Post edited 27 Nov 16:11]
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Yes - if miraculously we are still top of the league going into that last game if we need 3 points I'm not sure I could cope with that disappointment. It would be Spennymoor & Southend x100. |  |
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| Jake Burger on 16:36 - Nov 27 with 2933 views | TalkingSutty |
| Jake Burger on 16:05 - Nov 27 by D_Alien | Whilst i agree with most of that, especially the recruitment both on and off the pitch, like Bluevein, i'll reserve judgement until push really comes to shove at the stage where it really matters, in the Spring In the meantime, pleased with the progress this season and believe we should be looking to take that further in a way which means there won't be a "crunch" fixture at the very end. We know who we're scheduled to play on the last day of the season [Post edited 27 Nov 16:11]
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I just think we've shown enough against the top teams already this season to know that we can now compete and beat them, i didn't see that last season, we seemed in awe of some teams and almost talked ourselves out of beating them, well the manager did. There is still a monkey on the managers and the players back though, we need to start beating our rivals when they come to Spotland, we need a signature win and Southend next week is the perfect opportunity. We might miss out again this season but if we do i think it will be because we were beaten by a better team on the day and not because we took a backwatds step and handed over the initiative. That"s the difference with the players this season and i think the manager also. [Post edited 27 Nov 16:37]
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| Jake Burger on 17:03 - Nov 27 with 2889 views | bluevein64 |
| Jake Burger on 13:58 - Nov 27 by TalkingSutty | I think it's some.of the fans who are to blame and i include myself in that. McNulty was a rooky manager and he was fighting fires from the moment he took the job, with very little support around him, we expected too much from him. He now has some help and he will be benefitting massively as a result of that. Our game has progressed now, we look like a well oiled machine and certsinly well coached. The recruitment has been excellent and McNulty has fostered a fantastic team spirit, the players love him. He's a manager who is getting better and better and i have no qualms about saying he has proved me wrong...and i'm glad that he has. I think McNulty's biggest backer was Simon Gauge who appointed him, he also deserves some credit. [Post edited 27 Nov 14:00]
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Fair Point/s Sutty , I still have Spennymoor, Southend, Bromley and more recently Brackley in mind, your right things can, have and will only continue to get better with regards to the poor tactical/game management decision making ! I'm not taking anything away from Big Jim, his staff, the squad, the Ogden's/Board and last but not least the Dale supporters that we are currently sitting proudly at the top of the league with two game in hand over our most immediate rivals ! |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Jake Burger on 17:55 - Nov 27 with 2773 views | TalkingSutty |
| Jake Burger on 17:03 - Nov 27 by bluevein64 | Fair Point/s Sutty , I still have Spennymoor, Southend, Bromley and more recently Brackley in mind, your right things can, have and will only continue to get better with regards to the poor tactical/game management decision making ! I'm not taking anything away from Big Jim, his staff, the squad, the Ogden's/Board and last but not least the Dale supporters that we are currently sitting proudly at the top of the league with two game in hand over our most immediate rivals ! |
Good point and you are right to highlight those games, the Brackley game in particular was ridiculous and we paid the price. It's not been repeated since. The positives now far outweigh the negatives though and we can only hope lessons have been learned. We have to field our strongest available team in every league game and treat each opponent equally. We are top on merit and good enough to stay there, especially with Pritchard and Petit now starting to feature. McNulty is manager of the seaaon up to now in the National League and could start to attract attention from EFL clubs. No reason why we can't be promoted to the EFL this season though. [Post edited 27 Nov 18:04]
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| Jake Burger on 18:30 - Nov 27 with 2685 views | 442Dale | One of the significant improvements over the last couple of seasons has been in making attending games at Spotland an enjoyable experience again. There were some concerns around the style of football for a while, but the progress was visible over time and it’s been ages since we’ve seen a run of boring games. There will be the odd bad result and performance, but the consistent improvement over time is obvious and there’s a feel good factor at every home game. Of course that’s helped with how well we’re doing so far this season, with expectations being exceeded at present. |  |
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| Jake Burger on 19:27 - Nov 27 with 2566 views | TalkingSutty |
| Jake Burger on 18:30 - Nov 27 by 442Dale | One of the significant improvements over the last couple of seasons has been in making attending games at Spotland an enjoyable experience again. There were some concerns around the style of football for a while, but the progress was visible over time and it’s been ages since we’ve seen a run of boring games. There will be the odd bad result and performance, but the consistent improvement over time is obvious and there’s a feel good factor at every home game. Of course that’s helped with how well we’re doing so far this season, with expectations being exceeded at present. |
Nobody expected us to win the league and i don't think anybody does now, i think you stated a top three finish. I was happy with us finishing in a play off place and then making a better fist of them. I also wanted to see us inject more urgency into our performances because that's when the opposition struggle to handle us, we've seen that happen. We are capable of winning the league from here but there are probably another three clubs who will be thinking the exact same thing. I think our name could be on it though this seaaon, somethings happening. |  | |  |
| Jake Burger on 19:50 - Nov 27 with 2509 views | 442Dale |
| Jake Burger on 19:27 - Nov 27 by TalkingSutty | Nobody expected us to win the league and i don't think anybody does now, i think you stated a top three finish. I was happy with us finishing in a play off place and then making a better fist of them. I also wanted to see us inject more urgency into our performances because that's when the opposition struggle to handle us, we've seen that happen. We are capable of winning the league from here but there are probably another three clubs who will be thinking the exact same thing. I think our name could be on it though this seaaon, somethings happening. |
We’ve certainly done much better so far than I thought, yet would still see the top three as a good achievement. It always depended on how well other sides do, and the number of those averaging over two points a game is probably higher than expected at this stage too. I’m like you though, we are capable of winning the league and it’s clear that’s the relentless aim of the players and management. When looking at how we play now, that focus on winning at all costs is evident in how we attack and defend. It’ll need some luck and patience along the way, but I think the connection that’s been built with supporters will help with that too. |  |
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| Jake Burger on 19:59 - Nov 27 with 2480 views | mikehunt | What an errudite young chap Jake is. If you haven't watched his interview yet it is worth it to see the kinds of lads we have at the club and the kind of culture Jim and co are trying to foster. |  |
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| Jake Burger on 20:22 - Nov 27 with 2418 views | rich_dale |
| Jake Burger on 19:59 - Nov 27 by mikehunt | What an errudite young chap Jake is. If you haven't watched his interview yet it is worth it to see the kinds of lads we have at the club and the kind of culture Jim and co are trying to foster. |
Yep, reminds me of KG, similar maturity and intelligence for a young lad. Think he's a talented player as well. Agree we've got such good characters in the club these days which is helping to create a great team spirit. |  | |  |
| Jake Burger on 09:32 - Nov 28 with 2010 views | D_Alien |
| Jake Burger on 19:27 - Nov 27 by TalkingSutty | Nobody expected us to win the league and i don't think anybody does now, i think you stated a top three finish. I was happy with us finishing in a play off place and then making a better fist of them. I also wanted to see us inject more urgency into our performances because that's when the opposition struggle to handle us, we've seen that happen. We are capable of winning the league from here but there are probably another three clubs who will be thinking the exact same thing. I think our name could be on it though this seaaon, somethings happening. |
I expect us to win the lesgue If we don't, we've got (almost certainly) playoff fixtures. If we come through them, at that point the claims being made about "learning" will be validated, but not a minute before, and certainly not now |  |
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| Jake Burger on 09:49 - Nov 28 with 1975 views | TalkingSutty |
| Jake Burger on 09:32 - Nov 28 by D_Alien | I expect us to win the lesgue If we don't, we've got (almost certainly) playoff fixtures. If we come through them, at that point the claims being made about "learning" will be validated, but not a minute before, and certainly not now |
I think there have been learnings though, i know we all see the game differently. Learnings in respect of recruitment..look at Mani, Pritchard, Moss, Petit etc. Learnings in progressing the ball faster through the thirds and also going direct. Learnings when it comes to substitutes and also learnings in respect of game management..reflected in us winning games when we score first. The pressure games are yet to come and i think next week against Southend is one we need to put a marker down, we simply have to start winning at the COA when we play the big games. I think we need to be braver, concentrate on our strengths rather than trying to negate the strengths of our opponents to the detriment of our own game..i think that's what happeed in the cup game against York. Sometimes managers can overthink things and become too pre-occupied with the opponents. [Post edited 28 Nov 9:53]
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| Jake Burger on 09:59 - Nov 28 with 1923 views | D_Alien |
| Jake Burger on 09:49 - Nov 28 by TalkingSutty | I think there have been learnings though, i know we all see the game differently. Learnings in respect of recruitment..look at Mani, Pritchard, Moss, Petit etc. Learnings in progressing the ball faster through the thirds and also going direct. Learnings when it comes to substitutes and also learnings in respect of game management..reflected in us winning games when we score first. The pressure games are yet to come and i think next week against Southend is one we need to put a marker down, we simply have to start winning at the COA when we play the big games. I think we need to be braver, concentrate on our strengths rather than trying to negate the strengths of our opponents to the detriment of our own game..i think that's what happeed in the cup game against York. Sometimes managers can overthink things and become too pre-occupied with the opponents. [Post edited 28 Nov 9:53]
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"...we simply have to start winning at the COA when we play the big games." That validates the point i'm making, which, when we cut through all the noise, is what matters. The two key "big" games at the COA so far, York in the cup and the Halifax cross-border derby, we lost them. Southend will be a good indicator of whether our resolve is stronger at home, although the 1-0 against Aldershot after getting turned over at York was a good hint I'm enjoying our football much more, which is also valid Edit: your point about the York cup game is precisely where i'm at, and not sure why Bluevein was challenged earlier in the thread when the evidence regarding such games at home remains "the jury is out" [Post edited 28 Nov 10:07]
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| Jake Burger on 10:46 - Nov 28 with 1808 views | KnavesmireBob | Keen for this to not come across the wrong way, as like everyone else I'm very much hoping we get promoted this season. However I think sometimes a lot of clubs benefit in the bigger picture from falling through the trapdoor, looking themselves in the mirror and making big changes before getting back to happier times. Microcosm of life in general. Don't want us to be in this league forever but also think there's been plenty of positives from our experience in the NL thus far and am loving the regular winning feeling which we'd been starved of for years. Burger and Pritchard's interviews are just another example of the many little progress steps we're continuing to make as a club and sometimes enjoying the journey is just as satisfying as reaching the ultimate destination. |  | |  |
| Jake Burger on 10:48 - Nov 28 with 1800 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Jake Burger on 16:22 - Nov 27 by dingdangblue | Yes - if miraculously we are still top of the league going into that last game if we need 3 points I'm not sure I could cope with that disappointment. It would be Spennymoor & Southend x100. |
I would take being in 2nd place after 45 league games and be 2 points behind York.. That would be a full house and the perfect stage to perform and take Dale back to the football league. My first preference would to be 4 points + Clear of everybody after 45 games but that would just not be Dale like would it!! |  | |  |
| Jake Burger on 10:59 - Nov 28 with 1773 views | TalkingSutty |
| Jake Burger on 09:59 - Nov 28 by D_Alien | "...we simply have to start winning at the COA when we play the big games." That validates the point i'm making, which, when we cut through all the noise, is what matters. The two key "big" games at the COA so far, York in the cup and the Halifax cross-border derby, we lost them. Southend will be a good indicator of whether our resolve is stronger at home, although the 1-0 against Aldershot after getting turned over at York was a good hint I'm enjoying our football much more, which is also valid Edit: your point about the York cup game is precisely where i'm at, and not sure why Bluevein was challenged earlier in the thread when the evidence regarding such games at home remains "the jury is out" [Post edited 28 Nov 10:07]
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He wasn't challenged, i just pointed out that McNulty is an improving manager. It was me who highlighted my concerns in regards to winning our key home fixtures and getting that monkey off our back. Constructive criticism is warranted. Those home games will be the key to everything this season, especially if we end up in the play offs. I think McNulty's obsession with clean sheets could be the obstacle when it comes to us winning those home fixtures. We seem to forget we have a game to win and our attacking flair suffers accordingly. We change the way we play and show oir opponents too much respect. That's how i see it but others will obviously disagree. Let Southend next week worry about us and let's get at them from the first whistle, we're the home team. |  | |  |
| Jake Burger on 11:55 - Nov 28 with 1665 views | D_Alien |
| Jake Burger on 10:59 - Nov 28 by TalkingSutty | He wasn't challenged, i just pointed out that McNulty is an improving manager. It was me who highlighted my concerns in regards to winning our key home fixtures and getting that monkey off our back. Constructive criticism is warranted. Those home games will be the key to everything this season, especially if we end up in the play offs. I think McNulty's obsession with clean sheets could be the obstacle when it comes to us winning those home fixtures. We seem to forget we have a game to win and our attacking flair suffers accordingly. We change the way we play and show oir opponents too much respect. That's how i see it but others will obviously disagree. Let Southend next week worry about us and let's get at them from the first whistle, we're the home team. |
He was challenged, both via a post in response and via a downvote, which i nullified He was simply saying in his own way what both you and i are saying in these exchanges, in a more detailed way |  |
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| Jake Burger on 12:04 - Nov 28 with 1642 views | TalkingSutty |
| Jake Burger on 11:55 - Nov 28 by D_Alien | He was challenged, both via a post in response and via a downvote, which i nullified He was simply saying in his own way what both you and i are saying in these exchanges, in a more detailed way |
He'll be ok DAlien, i'm sure he's been through worse 🙂 [Post edited 28 Nov 12:37]
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| Jake Burger on 13:54 - Nov 28 with 1363 views | judd |
| Jake Burger on 13:23 - Nov 28 by TalkingSutty | I've probably been one of Jims biggest critics but i like to give credit where it's due, we're top of the league on merit and he's put together a fantastic bunch of footballers. I was watching them at Tamworth last week in horrendous weather and what really stood out for me was the fight and desire and how much these players care. It's the manager who is responsible for bringing that back into the club. Is he the finished article..far from it. Will he make mistakes along the way...of course he will. The wins at BW, Carlisle and FGR put to bed the notion that we bottle it against the best teams, or that the manager is tactically inept. We need to do it now when they come to Spotland and the onus is on us to take the game to the opposition, i think if McNulty can crack that then his transformation into being one of our best ever managers will be complete and i never thought i would say that.. If he could do that it would also see us going very close to returning to the EFL at the end of the season. It starts with Southend next week. We've all raked over the past perceived failings, let's move on. [Post edited 28 Nov 13:27]
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