| A real hero on 17:46 - Nov 19 with 2856 views | onehunglow |
And taken by COVID.
Ma,see yiu think again on the sanity of anti Vaxers.
Frankly, we need to be tough on them |  |
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| A real hero on 17:57 - Nov 19 with 2842 views | CountyJim |
Oh no very sad RIP |  | | |
| A real hero on 19:22 - Nov 19 with 2775 views | A_Fans_Dad |
The question has to be asked, after 18 months why can't they even save the life of a previously healthy 45 year old? | | | |
| A real hero on 20:57 - Nov 19 with 2737 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| A real hero on 19:22 - Nov 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
The question has to be asked, after 18 months why can't they even save the life of a previously healthy 45 year old? |
That has to be the silliest question ever asked in the history of silly questions.
Sometimes with any illness there is nothing that can be done, despite the best efforts of all involved. | | | |
| A real hero on 21:25 - Nov 19 with 2691 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| A real hero on 20:57 - Nov 19 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
That has to be the silliest question ever asked in the history of silly questions.
Sometimes with any illness there is nothing that can be done, despite the best efforts of all involved. |
OK Einstein, what is the UK protocol for treating COVID, when does treatment start and what do they use? | | | |
| A real hero on 21:47 - Nov 19 with 2680 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| A real hero on 21:25 - Nov 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
OK Einstein, what is the UK protocol for treating COVID, when does treatment start and what do they use? |
I am not Einstein, he died decades ago.
And the treatment varies based on the situation. | | | |
| A real hero on 22:09 - Nov 19 with 2647 views | Cleddau |
Very sad. I have spoken to his wife many times over the past eight weeks or so because I received the same life support treatment that had been keeping him alive. | | | |
| A real hero (n/t) on 22:33 - Nov 19 with 2626 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| A real hero on 22:09 - Nov 19 by Cleddau |
Very sad. I have spoken to his wife many times over the past eight weeks or so because I received the same life support treatment that had been keeping him alive. |
Great someone who actually knows the treatment.
So what treatment did you get before you were hospitalised?
What did you get after you were hospitalised?
How does it compare to the world's best treatment protocols?
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| A real hero (n/t) on 22:46 - Nov 19 with 2617 views | Treforys_Jack |
| A real hero (n/t) on 22:33 - Nov 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
Great someone who actually knows the treatment.
So what treatment did you get before you were hospitalised?
What did you get after you were hospitalised?
How does it compare to the world's best treatment protocols?
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Nice sensitive post .......... FFS |  | | |
| A real hero (n/t) on 23:18 - Nov 19 with 2590 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| A real hero (n/t) on 22:46 - Nov 19 by Treforys_Jack |
Nice sensitive post .......... FFS |
It is a tragedy, how many more are there going to be?
The Vaccines were plan A, which didn't work in this case, what is plan B? | | | |
| A real hero (n/t) on 23:24 - Nov 19 with 2586 views | Cleddau |
| A real hero (n/t) on 22:33 - Nov 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
Great someone who actually knows the treatment.
So what treatment did you get before you were hospitalised?
What did you get after you were hospitalised?
How does it compare to the world's best treatment protocols?
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I really don't know if these are genuine questions but I'll answer anyway.
Before I was hospitalised, I received no help. I spoke to my GP three times in the space of 12 days. Each time, I was told to drink lots of fluids, take paracetamol and see how I felt in a few days. The last time I spoke to her, I pleaded and said 'please help me, I feel like I am dying' but I received the same advice.
I was put into an induced coma and on a vent within an hour of admission. I was also proned for several days but I continued to deteriorate. I was then sent to Leicester Glenfield to receive ECMO treatment. ECMO only comes into play when all forms of conventional treatment have been exhausted.
At the time, Glenfield was the only hospital in the UK providing adult respiratory ECMO, which is what the doctor received at Brompton.
Following the success of ECMO as a treatment for the most serious of swine flu victims in 2009, which I was part of, a network of five centrally funded regional adult respiratory ECMO centres were established to cover the UK. Brompton, Papworth, St Thomas and Wythenshawe being the other four.
Prior to that, ECMO was predominantly used on neonates and some peds.
ECMO is a very invasive form of life support and comes with many risks, having a survival
rate of around 60%. ECMO is the last resort, if that fails, there is nowhere to go.
Glenfield is a world leader in ECMO treatment.
After hospitalisation, I remained in outpatient weekly rehab for two and a half years to transition from wheelchair to walking. Pulmonology for my residual fibrosis. Neurology for my cognitive deficits and nerve damage. Rheumatology for my joint and muscle issues. Psychological intervention after being clinically diagnosed with PTSD. It was a lengthy recovery just to get back to a functioning level and I received great support from the NHS. | | | |
| A real hero (n/t) on 00:30 - Nov 20 with 2564 views | Treforys_Jack |
| A real hero (n/t) on 23:24 - Nov 19 by Cleddau |
I really don't know if these are genuine questions but I'll answer anyway.
Before I was hospitalised, I received no help. I spoke to my GP three times in the space of 12 days. Each time, I was told to drink lots of fluids, take paracetamol and see how I felt in a few days. The last time I spoke to her, I pleaded and said 'please help me, I feel like I am dying' but I received the same advice.
I was put into an induced coma and on a vent within an hour of admission. I was also proned for several days but I continued to deteriorate. I was then sent to Leicester Glenfield to receive ECMO treatment. ECMO only comes into play when all forms of conventional treatment have been exhausted.
At the time, Glenfield was the only hospital in the UK providing adult respiratory ECMO, which is what the doctor received at Brompton.
Following the success of ECMO as a treatment for the most serious of swine flu victims in 2009, which I was part of, a network of five centrally funded regional adult respiratory ECMO centres were established to cover the UK. Brompton, Papworth, St Thomas and Wythenshawe being the other four.
Prior to that, ECMO was predominantly used on neonates and some peds.
ECMO is a very invasive form of life support and comes with many risks, having a survival
rate of around 60%. ECMO is the last resort, if that fails, there is nowhere to go.
Glenfield is a world leader in ECMO treatment.
After hospitalisation, I remained in outpatient weekly rehab for two and a half years to transition from wheelchair to walking. Pulmonology for my residual fibrosis. Neurology for my cognitive deficits and nerve damage. Rheumatology for my joint and muscle issues. Psychological intervention after being clinically diagnosed with PTSD. It was a lengthy recovery just to get back to a functioning level and I received great support from the NHS. |
A very thought provoking and quite frankly scary reply Cleddau, if the quality of your reply is anything to go by it looks like you are back up to full speed. Respect !! | | | |
| A real hero (n/t) on 00:51 - Nov 20 with 2550 views | Jack123 |
| A real hero (n/t) on 23:24 - Nov 19 by Cleddau |
I really don't know if these are genuine questions but I'll answer anyway.
Before I was hospitalised, I received no help. I spoke to my GP three times in the space of 12 days. Each time, I was told to drink lots of fluids, take paracetamol and see how I felt in a few days. The last time I spoke to her, I pleaded and said 'please help me, I feel like I am dying' but I received the same advice.
I was put into an induced coma and on a vent within an hour of admission. I was also proned for several days but I continued to deteriorate. I was then sent to Leicester Glenfield to receive ECMO treatment. ECMO only comes into play when all forms of conventional treatment have been exhausted.
At the time, Glenfield was the only hospital in the UK providing adult respiratory ECMO, which is what the doctor received at Brompton.
Following the success of ECMO as a treatment for the most serious of swine flu victims in 2009, which I was part of, a network of five centrally funded regional adult respiratory ECMO centres were established to cover the UK. Brompton, Papworth, St Thomas and Wythenshawe being the other four.
Prior to that, ECMO was predominantly used on neonates and some peds.
ECMO is a very invasive form of life support and comes with many risks, having a survival
rate of around 60%. ECMO is the last resort, if that fails, there is nowhere to go.
Glenfield is a world leader in ECMO treatment.
After hospitalisation, I remained in outpatient weekly rehab for two and a half years to transition from wheelchair to walking. Pulmonology for my residual fibrosis. Neurology for my cognitive deficits and nerve damage. Rheumatology for my joint and muscle issues. Psychological intervention after being clinically diagnosed with PTSD. It was a lengthy recovery just to get back to a functioning level and I received great support from the NHS. |
Wow, that sent shivers down my spine reading that.
Very well put..
I'm glad you made it through.. |  |
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| A real hero (n/t) on 00:56 - Nov 20 with 2541 views | Cleddau |
| A real hero (n/t) on 00:30 - Nov 20 by Treforys_Jack |
A very thought provoking and quite frankly scary reply Cleddau, if the quality of your reply is anything to go by it looks like you are back up to full speed. Respect !! |
Thanks. I don't want to be 'woe is me' but amongst other things, I was never able to return to work, I never regained the ability to walk unaided and I remain under specialist care.
I have had to learn many coping strategies but what I wrote above comes easily as I often give presentations on post critical illness issues. But yes, I have improved a lot since those early days. | | | |
| A real hero (n/t) on 01:17 - Nov 20 with 2515 views | Jack123 |
| A real hero (n/t) on 00:56 - Nov 20 by Cleddau |
Thanks. I don't want to be 'woe is me' but amongst other things, I was never able to return to work, I never regained the ability to walk unaided and I remain under specialist care.
I have had to learn many coping strategies but what I wrote above comes easily as I often give presentations on post critical illness issues. But yes, I have improved a lot since those early days. |
May I ask, why did you persevere with calling GP? When you were feeling unwell? The only reason I ask, is because my doctors doesn't want to know, according to their pre-recorded message about covid? | |
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| A real hero (n/t) on 01:39 - Nov 20 with 2500 views | DJack |
| A real hero (n/t) on 01:17 - Nov 20 by Jack123 |
May I ask, why did you persevere with calling GP? When you were feeling unwell? The only reason I ask, is because my doctors doesn't want to know, according to their pre-recorded message about covid? |
His incident pre-dates Covid looking at this bit:
"After hospitalisation, I remained in outpatient weekly rehab for two and a half years to transition from wheelchair to walking. |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| A real hero (n/t) on 01:49 - Nov 20 with 2495 views | Jack123 |
| A real hero (n/t) on 01:39 - Nov 20 by DJack |
His incident pre-dates Covid looking at this bit:
"After hospitalisation, I remained in outpatient weekly rehab for two and a half years to transition from wheelchair to walking. |
Thanks, But I thought he was talking about covid? Sorry If i got the wrong end of the stick.. | |
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| A real hero (n/t) on 01:50 - Nov 20 with 2493 views | DJack |
| A real hero (n/t) on 00:56 - Nov 20 by Cleddau |
Thanks. I don't want to be 'woe is me' but amongst other things, I was never able to return to work, I never regained the ability to walk unaided and I remain under specialist care.
I have had to learn many coping strategies but what I wrote above comes easily as I often give presentations on post critical illness issues. But yes, I have improved a lot since those early days. |
You've fought (and continue to fight) a long hard battle, coming out scarred and not quite the same man and you give presentations to others. I tip my hat to you.
You're on the most pertinent thread for your past (& present) struggle. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| A real hero (n/t) on 01:52 - Nov 20 with 2487 views | DJack |
| A real hero (n/t) on 01:49 - Nov 20 by Jack123 |
Thanks, But I thought he was talking about covid? Sorry If i got the wrong end of the stick.. |
Dont worry, I suspect AfD did aswell. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| A real hero (n/t) on 02:02 - Nov 20 with 2484 views | Cleddau |
| A real hero (n/t) on 01:49 - Nov 20 by Jack123 |
Thanks, But I thought he was talking about covid? Sorry If i got the wrong end of the stick.. |
No, I was one of the early swine flu victims back in 2009. Different virus but the same journey in terms of treatment path as the late doctor.
Maybe I shouldn't have answered those questions above but I was offering support to the doctor's wife because of that shared journey. Sadly, that treatment couldn't save him. | | | |
| A real hero (n/t) on 02:20 - Nov 20 with 2470 views | Jack123 |
| A real hero (n/t) on 02:02 - Nov 20 by Cleddau |
No, I was one of the early swine flu victims back in 2009. Different virus but the same journey in terms of treatment path as the late doctor.
Maybe I shouldn't have answered those questions above but I was offering support to the doctor's wife because of that shared journey. Sadly, that treatment couldn't save him. |
Thanks, I'm ashamed.. my only gripe in life is parking problems, I hope you get well soon.
You have done well, and you wrote that piece prior brilliantly, I wish you good health.. | |
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| A real hero on 07:47 - Nov 20 with 2413 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Heroes come in many forms, this is another.
Thankfully that teenager mentioned was toting a gun, otherwise he would be dead right now for daring to help his community.
Zero criminal record attacked by a child rapist, a domestic abuser and a burglar. When towns and cities are attracting terrorism of a wave of criminals like we saw in Kenosha, thankfully there was a host of American citizens willing to help.
I’m surprised so many appear to be against that. I really hope it’s not political allegiance driving it because there should be no politics in what went on there and should not be used to disparage the citizens faced with such situations. |  |
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| A real hero (n/t) on 09:30 - Nov 20 with 2370 views | Professor |
| A real hero (n/t) on 02:02 - Nov 20 by Cleddau |
No, I was one of the early swine flu victims back in 2009. Different virus but the same journey in terms of treatment path as the late doctor.
Maybe I shouldn't have answered those questions above but I was offering support to the doctor's wife because of that shared journey. Sadly, that treatment couldn't save him. |
I am sure that support was greatly appreciated despite the sad outcome. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Those severely Ill for whatever reason are people, with loves,
Faults and foibles like us all, and not simply a number or statistic. It also shows is that outcomes are never binary.
I sincerely wish you all the best. | | | |
| A real hero (n/t) on 16:55 - Nov 20 with 2295 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| A real hero (n/t) on 23:24 - Nov 19 by Cleddau |
I really don't know if these are genuine questions but I'll answer anyway.
Before I was hospitalised, I received no help. I spoke to my GP three times in the space of 12 days. Each time, I was told to drink lots of fluids, take paracetamol and see how I felt in a few days. The last time I spoke to her, I pleaded and said 'please help me, I feel like I am dying' but I received the same advice.
I was put into an induced coma and on a vent within an hour of admission. I was also proned for several days but I continued to deteriorate. I was then sent to Leicester Glenfield to receive ECMO treatment. ECMO only comes into play when all forms of conventional treatment have been exhausted.
At the time, Glenfield was the only hospital in the UK providing adult respiratory ECMO, which is what the doctor received at Brompton.
Following the success of ECMO as a treatment for the most serious of swine flu victims in 2009, which I was part of, a network of five centrally funded regional adult respiratory ECMO centres were established to cover the UK. Brompton, Papworth, St Thomas and Wythenshawe being the other four.
Prior to that, ECMO was predominantly used on neonates and some peds.
ECMO is a very invasive form of life support and comes with many risks, having a survival
rate of around 60%. ECMO is the last resort, if that fails, there is nowhere to go.
Glenfield is a world leader in ECMO treatment.
After hospitalisation, I remained in outpatient weekly rehab for two and a half years to transition from wheelchair to walking. Pulmonology for my residual fibrosis. Neurology for my cognitive deficits and nerve damage. Rheumatology for my joint and muscle issues. Psychological intervention after being clinically diagnosed with PTSD. It was a lengthy recovery just to get back to a functioning level and I received great support from the NHS. |
Yes, the questions are genuine and thank you very much for your comprehensive response.
You have gone through a very hard time and I hope your health continues to improve.
The havoc Swine flu created in your body is very similar to the SARs 2 virus.
Unfortunatley it doesn't help me very much as I was hoping to establish whether the pre- hospitalisation treatment had improved at all, because as far as I know it is the same as yours.
Plus to establish which medical treatments are currently being used. | | | |
| A real hero on 17:08 - Nov 20 with 2290 views | Wingstandwood |
An NHS hero! I put him and others of equal standing upon the highest of pedestals! |  |
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