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Now Cymru has never put Tories into power BUT many people in Cymru have voted Tory, at the last GE they got over 557,000 votes, only around 74k fewer than Labour and over 100k more than voted Labour in the last Senedd elections.
Lets be clear, the Tories have never won an election in Cymru.
No ifs and no buts …. Never ever voted Tory as a nation. Something for us all to be very proud of.
Lets be clear, the Tories have never won an election in Cymru.
No ifs and no buts …. Never ever voted Tory as a nation. Something for us all to be very proud of.
If you're happy with mediocrity and not voting Tory, that's your pregorative. Although a little negative. I would rather see Wales as a successful nation along the lines of Austria or Switzerland. Whilst we have this socialist thinking negativity and incompetence this will just never happen.
If you're happy with mediocrity and not voting Tory, that's your pregorative. Although a little negative. I would rather see Wales as a successful nation along the lines of Austria or Switzerland. Whilst we have this socialist thinking negativity and incompetence this will just never happen.
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I believe the Plaid/Labour agreement expires at the end of this month. I think they will quickly want to distance themselves from Welsh Labour as will Labour in Westminster. Welsh Labour will not find the future as bright as it has been.
He never shipped govt PPE money to his Tory mates during a pandemic, he was never proven to have lied in the Senedd, he never threatened peace in Ireland, he never partied whilst Prince Phillip passed away, he never damaged our economy with an idiot idea like Brexit, he never took donation money of Putins Russian friends, and he never had an affair when his wife was seriously ill.
Thats to say nothing of johnsons appointment of one 30 year old Charlotte Owen into the House of Lords. Based on … you can only guess.
Its a very low bar admittedly, but yes the well meaning Drakeford towers over the disgraced former PM Johnson.
He never shipped govt PPE money to his Tory mates during a pandemic, he was never proven to have lied in the Senedd, he never threatened peace in Ireland, he never partied whilst Prince Phillip passed away, he never damaged our economy with an idiot idea like Brexit, he never took donation money of Putins Russian friends, and he never had an affair when his wife was seriously ill.
Thats to say nothing of johnsons appointment of one 30 year old Charlotte Owen into the House of Lords. Based on … you can only guess.
Its a very low bar admittedly, but yes the well meaning Drakeford towers over the disgraced former PM Johnson.
And after all that Drakeford will still go on record as the worst first minister ever, his legacy will live on until we are finally able to erase it.
I believe Drakers is a sincere bloke who genuinely believes in public service, helping people and I believe his intentions are well meant and intended to help the most needy, while Boris is dishonest and only out for 1 thing and that’s himself.
That said, I believe the WG under Drakers watch have made a number of poor calls including the failure to address the gridlock in Newport, the 20mph speed limit has been poorly handled and the decision to increase the number of AM’s is an outrage. The Parliament at Westminster is responsible for numerous faux pas and wasting scarce public resources, but this thread is about Drakers and I’ll not derail it further.
He never shipped govt PPE money to his Tory mates during a pandemic, he was never proven to have lied in the Senedd, he never threatened peace in Ireland, he never partied whilst Prince Phillip passed away, he never damaged our economy with an idiot idea like Brexit, he never took donation money of Putins Russian friends, and he never had an affair when his wife was seriously ill.
Thats to say nothing of johnsons appointment of one 30 year old Charlotte Owen into the House of Lords. Based on … you can only guess.
Its a very low bar admittedly, but yes the well meaning Drakeford towers over the disgraced former PM Johnson.
"he never damaged our economy with an idiot idea like Brexit, " really you believe that don't you. Everything is in proportionality and I'm out , if you can't acknowledge the damage that Welsh labour has and continues to wreak upon the Welsh economy then there's no hope . Corruption abounds in Cardiff but too many chose to ignore it , you being a prime example
"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."
I believe Drakers is a sincere bloke who genuinely believes in public service, helping people and I believe his intentions are well meant and intended to help the most needy, while Boris is dishonest and only out for 1 thing and that’s himself.
That said, I believe the WG under Drakers watch have made a number of poor calls including the failure to address the gridlock in Newport, the 20mph speed limit has been poorly handled and the decision to increase the number of AM’s is an outrage. The Parliament at Westminster is responsible for numerous faux pas and wasting scarce public resources, but this thread is about Drakers and I’ll not derail it further.
He may be genuine in his belief that left wing socialist policies will bring wealth and prosperity to Wales unfortunately it has not helped anyone except the elite in the Senedd.
He may be genuine in his belief that left wing socialist policies will bring wealth and prosperity to Wales unfortunately it has not helped anyone except the elite in the Senedd.
Great so far though what Brexit has to do with Drakeford is beyond me although the people of Wales voted to leave the undemocratic EU.
Unemployment 50% higher in the EU than UK and the £ up 4% over against the € in the last 5 years so not going too bad.
Of course both the EU and UK economies would be doing much better without your Russian friends.
The whole of eastern bloc was better off with Mother Russia breastfeeding them and keeping them where they should be .Under the Boot. We were better off as the criminal gangs simply stayed where they were until we allowed them to come here . Just a shame both Russia and China ditched communism ,as it was, because we were free of their stench .
He may be genuine in his belief that left wing socialist policies will bring wealth and prosperity to Wales unfortunately it has not helped anyone except the elite in the Senedd.
I don't think anyone in the Senedd can be described as elite.
Nothing to do with this debate , how's the Welsh NHS doing, job creation , updating transport links . the Regeneration Investment Fund for Wales . the failure of child & adolescent mental health failure to eradicate fuel poverty by 2018, . failure to abolish child poverty by 2020, failure to cut emissions by 40% , all these were promised in their manifesto and yet their focus has been in reducing speed limits despite all the other issues this country faces.
"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."
I don't think anyone in the Senedd can be described as elite.
Only in their own minds but they have certainly make a fortune. Currently £70,000 a year for back benchers plus expenses which last year averaged £95,000 per year.
First Minister gets £153,000 Senior Ministers get £109,000 Deputy ministers get £93,000
14 of members of the Senedd are ministers not including the presiding officer and her deputy.
Nothing to do with this debate , how's the Welsh NHS doing, job creation , updating transport links . the Regeneration Investment Fund for Wales . the failure of child & adolescent mental health failure to eradicate fuel poverty by 2018, . failure to abolish child poverty by 2020, failure to cut emissions by 40% , all these were promised in their manifesto and yet their focus has been in reducing speed limits despite all the other issues this country faces.
But Brexit is an important context when judging Drakers.
Drakers had the deal with the inevitable fall out of the biggest act of self harm ever sanctioned by the uk govt in times of peace.
And thats important because it delivered Johnsons Brexidiot government who also could not deliver the lies they had told. Immigrant numbers at record levels. GDP -4%. Goods arriving in UK are still not being checked due to the delays it would cause. Disfunctional government at No10 describing Devolution as a disaster and taking every opportunity to undermine it …. For example the politically motivated M4 funding offer
This all took funding and focus away from Wales, the HS2 decision to rob Wales also played out with Wales starved of much needed transport investment.
Drakers is a unionist and asked the uk govt to secure the coal tips in south Wales as a visible benefit of the union. The Tory government turned him down flat.
Only in their own minds but they have certainly make a fortune. Currently £70,000 a year for back benchers plus expenses which last year averaged £95,000 per year.
First Minister gets £153,000 Senior Ministers get £109,000 Deputy ministers get £93,000
14 of members of the Senedd are ministers not including the presiding officer and her deputy.
The House of Lords, the biggest unelected chamber in the world, costs a huge £117.4m per annum to run.
But Brexit is an important context when judging Drakers.
Drakers had the deal with the inevitable fall out of the biggest act of self harm ever sanctioned by the uk govt in times of peace.
And thats important because it delivered Johnsons Brexidiot government who also could not deliver the lies they had told. Immigrant numbers at record levels. GDP -4%. Goods arriving in UK are still not being checked due to the delays it would cause. Disfunctional government at No10 describing Devolution as a disaster and taking every opportunity to undermine it …. For example the politically motivated M4 funding offer
This all took funding and focus away from Wales, the HS2 decision to rob Wales also played out with Wales starved of much needed transport investment.
Drakers is a unionist and asked the uk govt to secure the coal tips in south Wales as a visible benefit of the union. The Tory government turned him down flat.
Sorry the M4 relief road was a no brainier. The money was there. It was political suicide and deprived Wales of potential income.
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