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Mark Drakeford 11:26 - Dec 13 with 17638 viewsraynor94

Has resigned with immediate effect

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Mark Drakeford on 19:08 - Dec 13 with 1420 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

They’ve just announced a week of national celebration

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Mark Drakeford on 19:10 - Dec 13 with 1404 viewsunion_jack

Mark Drakeford on 17:46 - Dec 13 by Kilkennyjack

Cymru has never voted Tory.
Cymru never will vote Tory.

Drakeford was a decent man.
Contrast with Johnson.


So you’ve said. Ad nauseum. And wrong each time.

If you think Drakeford has been good for Wales I can only refer you to Penc’s excellent post above!

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Mark Drakeford on 19:10 - Dec 13 with 1407 viewsTogg

Mark Drakeford on 17:46 - Dec 13 by Kilkennyjack

Cymru has never voted Tory.
Cymru never will vote Tory.

Drakeford was a decent man.
Contrast with Johnson.


Decent man I wouldn't disagree but unfortunately totally incompetent and taken Wales back years.
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Mark Drakeford on 19:38 - Dec 13 with 1373 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 17:57 - Dec 13 by SullutaCreturned

Contrasted with Bojo, Pol Pot was a deent man.

Now Cymru has never put Tories into power BUT many people in Cymru have voted Tory, at the last GE they got over 557,000 votes, only around 74k fewer than Labour and over 100k more than voted Labour in the last Senedd elections.


Lets be clear, the Tories have never won an election in Cymru.

No ifs and no buts …. Never ever voted Tory as a nation.
Something for us all to be very proud of.

Beware of the Risen People

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Mark Drakeford on 19:41 - Dec 13 with 1364 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 19:10 - Dec 13 by union_jack

So you’ve said. Ad nauseum. And wrong each time.

If you think Drakeford has been good for Wales I can only refer you to Penc’s excellent post above!


He was better for Wales than liar Johnson was.

Beware of the Risen People

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Mark Drakeford on 20:03 - Dec 13 with 1349 viewsTogg

Mark Drakeford on 19:38 - Dec 13 by Kilkennyjack

Lets be clear, the Tories have never won an election in Cymru.

No ifs and no buts …. Never ever voted Tory as a nation.
Something for us all to be very proud of.


If you're happy with mediocrity and not voting Tory, that's your pregorative. Although a little negative. I would rather see Wales as a successful nation along the lines of Austria or Switzerland. Whilst we have this socialist thinking negativity and incompetence this will just never happen.
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Mark Drakeford on 20:12 - Dec 13 with 1329 viewsWhiterockin

Mark Drakeford on 20:03 - Dec 13 by Togg

If you're happy with mediocrity and not voting Tory, that's your pregorative. Although a little negative. I would rather see Wales as a successful nation along the lines of Austria or Switzerland. Whilst we have this socialist thinking negativity and incompetence this will just never happen.
[Post edited 13 Dec 2023 20:04]


I believe the Plaid/Labour agreement expires at the end of this month. I think they will quickly want to distance themselves from Welsh Labour as will Labour in Westminster. Welsh Labour will not find the future as bright as it has been.
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Mark Drakeford on 21:14 - Dec 13 with 1280 viewsunion_jack

Mark Drakeford on 19:41 - Dec 13 by Kilkennyjack

He was better for Wales than liar Johnson was.


But that wasn’t the point was it?

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Mark Drakeford on 21:34 - Dec 13 with 1255 viewsunion_jack

You’ve got to laugh😂😂😂😂😂


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Mark Drakeford on 21:55 - Dec 13 with 1226 viewsScotia

Mark Drakeford on 21:34 - Dec 13 by union_jack

You’ve got to laugh😂😂😂😂😂



I'm no fan of Drakeford but whoever produced that obviously hasn't got a clue what they're talking about.

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Mark Drakeford on 22:05 - Dec 13 with 1197 viewsBoundy

Mark Drakeford on 19:41 - Dec 13 by Kilkennyjack

He was better for Wales than liar Johnson was.


Really ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Mark Drakeford on 22:30 - Dec 13 with 1173 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 22:05 - Dec 13 by Boundy

Really ?


Thats correct.

He never shipped govt PPE money to his Tory mates during a pandemic, he was never proven to have lied in the Senedd, he never threatened peace in Ireland, he never partied whilst Prince Phillip passed away, he never damaged our economy with an idiot idea like Brexit, he never took donation money of Putins Russian friends, and he never had an affair when his wife was seriously ill.

Thats to say nothing of johnsons appointment of one 30 year old Charlotte Owen into the House of Lords. Based on … you can only guess.

Its a very low bar admittedly, but yes the well meaning Drakeford towers over the disgraced former PM Johnson.

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Mark Drakeford on 22:37 - Dec 13 with 1161 viewsWhiterockin

Mark Drakeford on 22:30 - Dec 13 by Kilkennyjack

Thats correct.

He never shipped govt PPE money to his Tory mates during a pandemic, he was never proven to have lied in the Senedd, he never threatened peace in Ireland, he never partied whilst Prince Phillip passed away, he never damaged our economy with an idiot idea like Brexit, he never took donation money of Putins Russian friends, and he never had an affair when his wife was seriously ill.

Thats to say nothing of johnsons appointment of one 30 year old Charlotte Owen into the House of Lords. Based on … you can only guess.

Its a very low bar admittedly, but yes the well meaning Drakeford towers over the disgraced former PM Johnson.


And after all that Drakeford will still go on record as the worst first minister ever, his legacy will live on until we are finally able to erase it.
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Mark Drakeford on 23:21 - Dec 13 with 1132 viewsmajorraglan

I believe Drakers is a sincere bloke who genuinely believes in public service, helping people and I believe his intentions are well meant and intended to help the most needy, while Boris is dishonest and only out for 1 thing and that’s himself.

That said, I believe the WG under Drakers watch have made a number of poor calls including the failure to address the gridlock in Newport, the 20mph speed limit has been poorly handled and the decision to increase the number of AM’s is an outrage. The Parliament at Westminster is responsible for numerous faux pas and wasting scarce public resources, but this thread is about Drakers and I’ll not derail it further.
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Mark Drakeford on 09:37 - Dec 14 with 1052 viewsBoundy

Mark Drakeford on 22:30 - Dec 13 by Kilkennyjack

Thats correct.

He never shipped govt PPE money to his Tory mates during a pandemic, he was never proven to have lied in the Senedd, he never threatened peace in Ireland, he never partied whilst Prince Phillip passed away, he never damaged our economy with an idiot idea like Brexit, he never took donation money of Putins Russian friends, and he never had an affair when his wife was seriously ill.

Thats to say nothing of johnsons appointment of one 30 year old Charlotte Owen into the House of Lords. Based on … you can only guess.

Its a very low bar admittedly, but yes the well meaning Drakeford towers over the disgraced former PM Johnson.


"he never damaged our economy with an idiot idea like Brexit, " really you believe that don't you. Everything is in proportionality and
I'm out , if you can't acknowledge the damage that Welsh labour has and continues to wreak upon the Welsh economy then there's no hope .
Corruption abounds in Cardiff but too many chose to ignore it , you being a prime example

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Mark Drakeford on 09:51 - Dec 14 with 1050 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Mark Drakeford on 23:21 - Dec 13 by majorraglan

I believe Drakers is a sincere bloke who genuinely believes in public service, helping people and I believe his intentions are well meant and intended to help the most needy, while Boris is dishonest and only out for 1 thing and that’s himself.

That said, I believe the WG under Drakers watch have made a number of poor calls including the failure to address the gridlock in Newport, the 20mph speed limit has been poorly handled and the decision to increase the number of AM’s is an outrage. The Parliament at Westminster is responsible for numerous faux pas and wasting scarce public resources, but this thread is about Drakers and I’ll not derail it further.


He may be genuine in his belief that left wing socialist policies will bring wealth and prosperity to Wales unfortunately it has not helped anyone except the elite in the Senedd.

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Mark Drakeford on 10:25 - Dec 14 with 1028 viewscontroversial_jack

Mark Drakeford on 09:51 - Dec 14 by felixstowe_jack

He may be genuine in his belief that left wing socialist policies will bring wealth and prosperity to Wales unfortunately it has not helped anyone except the elite in the Senedd.


How's Brexit working out?
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Mark Drakeford on 10:42 - Dec 14 with 1019 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Mark Drakeford on 10:25 - Dec 14 by controversial_jack

How's Brexit working out?


Great so far though what Brexit has to do with Drakeford is beyond me although the people of Wales voted to leave the undemocratic EU.

Unemployment 50% higher in the EU than UK and the £ up 4% over against the € in the last 5 years so not going too bad.

Of course both the EU and UK economies would be doing much better without your Russian friends.

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Mark Drakeford on 11:10 - Dec 14 with 1002 viewsonehunglow

Mark Drakeford on 10:42 - Dec 14 by felixstowe_jack

Great so far though what Brexit has to do with Drakeford is beyond me although the people of Wales voted to leave the undemocratic EU.

Unemployment 50% higher in the EU than UK and the £ up 4% over against the € in the last 5 years so not going too bad.

Of course both the EU and UK economies would be doing much better without your Russian friends.


The whole of eastern bloc was better off with Mother Russia breastfeeding them and keeping them where they should be .Under the Boot.
We were better off as the criminal gangs simply stayed where they were until we allowed them to come here .
Just a shame both Russia and China ditched communism ,as it was, because we were free of their stench .

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Mark Drakeford on 12:58 - Dec 14 with 967 viewsScotia

Mark Drakeford on 09:51 - Dec 14 by felixstowe_jack

He may be genuine in his belief that left wing socialist policies will bring wealth and prosperity to Wales unfortunately it has not helped anyone except the elite in the Senedd.


I don't think anyone in the Senedd can be described as elite.
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Mark Drakeford on 13:46 - Dec 14 with 953 viewsBoundy

Mark Drakeford on 10:25 - Dec 14 by controversial_jack

How's Brexit working out?


Nothing to do with this debate , how's the Welsh NHS doing, job creation , updating transport links . the Regeneration Investment Fund for Wales . the failure of child & adolescent mental health failure to eradicate fuel poverty by 2018, . failure to abolish child poverty by 2020, failure to cut emissions by 40% , all these were promised in their manifesto and yet their focus has been in reducing speed limits despite all the other issues this country faces.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Mark Drakeford on 15:32 - Dec 14 with 924 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Mark Drakeford on 12:58 - Dec 14 by Scotia

I don't think anyone in the Senedd can be described as elite.


Only in their own minds but they have certainly make a fortune. Currently £70,000 a year for back benchers plus expenses which last year averaged £95,000 per year.

First Minister gets £153,000
Senior Ministers get £109,000
Deputy ministers get £93,000

14 of members of the Senedd are ministers not including the presiding officer and her deputy.

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Mark Drakeford on 15:42 - Dec 14 with 920 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 13:46 - Dec 14 by Boundy

Nothing to do with this debate , how's the Welsh NHS doing, job creation , updating transport links . the Regeneration Investment Fund for Wales . the failure of child & adolescent mental health failure to eradicate fuel poverty by 2018, . failure to abolish child poverty by 2020, failure to cut emissions by 40% , all these were promised in their manifesto and yet their focus has been in reducing speed limits despite all the other issues this country faces.


But Brexit is an important context when judging Drakers.

Drakers had the deal with the inevitable fall out of the biggest act of self harm ever sanctioned by the uk govt in times of peace.

And thats important because it delivered Johnsons Brexidiot government who also could not deliver the lies they had told.
Immigrant numbers at record levels.
GDP -4%.
Goods arriving in UK are still not being checked due to the delays it would cause.
Disfunctional government at No10 describing Devolution as a disaster and taking every opportunity to undermine it …. For example the politically motivated M4 funding offer

This all took funding and focus away from Wales, the HS2 decision to rob Wales also played out with Wales starved of much needed transport investment.

Drakers is a unionist and asked the uk govt to secure the coal tips in south Wales as a visible benefit of the union. The Tory government turned him down flat.

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Mark Drakeford on 16:29 - Dec 14 with 906 viewsKilkennyjack

Mark Drakeford on 15:32 - Dec 14 by felixstowe_jack

Only in their own minds but they have certainly make a fortune. Currently £70,000 a year for back benchers plus expenses which last year averaged £95,000 per year.

First Minister gets £153,000
Senior Ministers get £109,000
Deputy ministers get £93,000

14 of members of the Senedd are ministers not including the presiding officer and her deputy.


The House of Lords, the biggest unelected chamber in the world, costs a huge £117.4m per annum to run.

Lets start our savings there shall we ?

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Mark Drakeford on 17:49 - Dec 14 with 887 viewsTogg

Mark Drakeford on 15:42 - Dec 14 by Kilkennyjack

But Brexit is an important context when judging Drakers.

Drakers had the deal with the inevitable fall out of the biggest act of self harm ever sanctioned by the uk govt in times of peace.

And thats important because it delivered Johnsons Brexidiot government who also could not deliver the lies they had told.
Immigrant numbers at record levels.
GDP -4%.
Goods arriving in UK are still not being checked due to the delays it would cause.
Disfunctional government at No10 describing Devolution as a disaster and taking every opportunity to undermine it …. For example the politically motivated M4 funding offer

This all took funding and focus away from Wales, the HS2 decision to rob Wales also played out with Wales starved of much needed transport investment.

Drakers is a unionist and asked the uk govt to secure the coal tips in south Wales as a visible benefit of the union. The Tory government turned him down flat.


Sorry the M4 relief road was a no brainier. The money was there. It was political suicide and deprived Wales of potential income.
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