![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | Question time leaders special at 22:08 20 Jun 2024
He was arguably the most high profile MEP for 21 years. I could challenge the average person to name three other MEPs from the same period (no googling!) and i very much doubt they could. Which is incidentally a big part of the reason we were right to leave. |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | Labour less popular now than under Corbyn? at 16:48 20 Jun 2024
1997 you could feel a wave of optimism though. Of course there was a lot of Tory fatigue and John major might have been so boring he was the only child in history to run away from the circus to join a firm of accountants, but there was real optimism. Poorly placed optimism in hindsight but we don’t have anything like that now. |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | General Election at 16:34 20 Jun 2024
The only man date Sturgeon can look forward to is getting locked up with Isla Bryson. |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | Labour less popular now than under Corbyn? at 15:54 20 Jun 2024
It’s not just the problem these days. The ancient Greeks posed this problem thousands of years ago. As Socrates (great player) said: Imagine a contest between a doctor and a sweet shop owner. The sweet shop owner would say “behold this doctor. He cuts your skin, pokes holes in you, he takes your blood. He tries to regulate what you eat and drink and gives you foul tasting potions. People enter his surgery and don’t come out alive. He brings pain and death upon you. Whereas I will generously serve you feasts of all manner of pleasant feasts.” Who is going to vote for the doctor? |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | Labour less popular now than under Corbyn? at 12:11 20 Jun 2024
That’s the whole point of this thread though, you say he’s transformed the party into something people want to vote for but there’s absolutely no evidence for that. I think the most positive comment I ever hear about the prospective Labour government is “oh well it can’t get any worse”. |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | Labour less popular now than under Corbyn? at 11:57 20 Jun 2024
I picked Yougov because they are probably the most well known and respected of all the pollsters. They were the only ones who correctly predicted a hung parliament in 2017. Predicting the future is impossible at the best of times but they have a good record of being more accurate than the rest. If you are suggesting I hand picked them for nefarious purposes you’re wrong. |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | Cow update at 11:37 19 Jun 2024
I wonder if the cow had been white whether this would have happened at all? |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | Labour less popular now than under Corbyn? at 11:30 19 Jun 2024
So we shouldn’t be free to analyse or highlight the obvious shortcomings of the party that is likely to form the government for the next decade at least because you said so? No. It’s important we talk about how shite they are. |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | Labour less popular now than under Corbyn? at 10:02 19 Jun 2024
Yeah I’m still not sold on PR but the current system just ensures the two big parties keep dominance. The Tories absolutely deserve to be wiped out they’ve been shambolic, but it’s strange that Labour are unwilling or unable to maximise the situation. |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Reply | Nigel Farage at 09:27 19 Jun 2024
What a silly comment. Here in wales alone we were flogging copper to the Germans and the swedes nearly four millennia ago. |
![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) | Forum Thread | Labour less popular now than under Corbyn? at 09:24 19 Jun 2024
Despite talk of a supermajority and Labour triumphantly sweeping in on a wave of votes on July 4th the latest yougov poll has them only sitting on 36% which is a whole 4% lower than the percentage Corbyn achieved in 2017. https://yougov.co.uk/elections/uk/2024 If this poll is accurate it’s a quite pathetic performance from Starmer, Rayner et al. you would think or hope that they would be taking full advantage of the disarray in the Tory ranks and we’d be seeing a surge in Labour voting intention. But there seems little appetite to vote for Labour either. They’re losing support if anything. It’s quite a sorry state of affairs all around to be honest. |
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