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Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) 10:24 - Nov 3 with 1055 viewsCaptain_Sham

There is a train of though on here that we need to attack the big teams from the off to beat them. Well if anyone watched
1) Yesterdays Newcastle - Chelsea
2) Both our victories against the BIG teams.

the m.o. was the same. Play like the away team for an hour(accepted we were away both times, but geordies were not), ride your luck, THEN attack.
This what we have been trying to do(i think), its just we never get to 60 mins level, so much work to do, but anyone who thinks we are just showing them too much respect is underestimating Laudrup. You have to build a victory against those teams. first thing is not concede. Build from there.

"The word 'genius' isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - JOE THEISMAN

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Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:30 - Nov 3 with 1026 viewsperchrockjack

Clearly the "big" 4 aren't as big this year in so far as they can and have been beaten. Gives hope to all the smaller clubs who ve got the cheek to play in their league. And well done HullCity btw

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Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:39 - Nov 3 with 1011 viewsWarwickHunt

Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:30 - Nov 3 by perchrockjack

Clearly the "big" 4 aren't as big this year in so far as they can and have been beaten. Gives hope to all the smaller clubs who ve got the cheek to play in their league. And well done HullCity btw


They can also just as easily put 4/5/7 past you - especially if they get an early goal...
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Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:40 - Nov 3 with 1007 viewsperchrockjack

But a team like cradiff puts three past them. Strange its true

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Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:42 - Nov 3 with 999 viewsWarwickHunt

Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:40 - Nov 3 by perchrockjack

But a team like cradiff puts three past them. Strange its true


Funny ol' game, Rich.
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Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:50 - Nov 3 with 971 viewsperchrockjack

Its certainly is Saint

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Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:55 - Nov 3 with 955 viewsPlasticman

And Man U managed to plonk 4 past us when concnetration broke for a minor spell in that game.

Plastic since 2012

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Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:58 - Nov 3 with 948 viewsairedale

Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 10:55 - Nov 3 by Plasticman

And Man U managed to plonk 4 past us when concnetration broke for a minor spell in that game.


Yeah, 3 worldies and one exceptional goal.
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Beating the big 4(3/5/however many there are) on 13:25 - Nov 3 with 815 viewsOrganicPolymer

Posted this in a dying thread a while back, but this is similar so thought I would copy it.

Made a comparison of some different teams against the top 5 last year. Might give some perspective one way or the other.

First the inbetweens:
Everton
Top 5 points
Home: 10 Away: 3 Total: 13
Top 5 goals
Home: 9-4 Away: 4-7 Total: 13-11

Liverpool
Top 5 points
Home: 5 Away: 3 Total: 8
Top 5 goals
Home: 8-10 Away: 7-9 Total: 15-19

Next the 3 pts from Swansea:

WBA
Top 5 points
Home: 6 Away: 1 Total: 7
Top 5 goals
Home: 8-11 Away: 1-7 Total: 9-18

Swansea
Top 5 points
Home: 3 Away: 3 Total: 6
Top 5 goals
Home: 3-6 Away: 3-6 Total: 6-12

West Ham
Top 5 points
Home: 5 Away: 0 Total: 5
Top 5 goals
Home: 8-9 Away: 3-13 Total: 11-22

Norwich
Top 5 points
Home: 7 Away: 1 Total: 8
Top 5 goals
Home: 6-6 Away: 6-14 Total: 12-20

Fulham
Top 5 points
Home: 0 Away: 5 Total: 5
Top 5 goals
Home: 1-10 Away: 6-8 Total: 7-18

Other possibly more offensively minded teams:

Southampton
Top 5 points
Home: 7 Away: 1 Total: 8
Top 5 goals
Home: 9-8 Away: 6-14 Total: 15-22

Wigan
Top 5 points
Home: 1 Away: 3 Total: 4
Top 5 goals
Home: 2-11 Away: 3-13Total: 5-24

Last but not least
Swansea 11/12
Top 5 points
Home: 8 Away: 0 Total: 8
Top 5 goals
Home: 6-5 Away: 2-14 Total: 8-19

Quick comments:
* Swanseas defensive record against the top 5 was quite good.
* Swanseas offensive record against the top 5 was equally bad, compared to the teams around them.
* Swansea 12/13 wins a bit comparatively, by not including Everton and Liverpool. These four games included two of the worst performances last season; Everton (h) 0-3 and Liverpool (a) 5-0. Swansea also didn't score in any of the four games, but got two points.

Make of this what you want.
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