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at 19:41 23 May 2024

But can he do it on a wet Tuesday in Hull?
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at 15:35 23 May 2024

You could have stopped after 'at all'. I'm not in the media and trust me, it's not right to hold Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
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2024 New Music
at 13:07 23 May 2024

The sets from EDC at Las Vegas last weekend are coming out:
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General Election Thread
at 12:56 23 May 2024

I've watch it 3 times in total.

Have you read the Labour Together Review I linked above?
https://www.labourtogether.uk/all-reports/general-election-review-2019

I try and find an evidence base where I can make decisions from; that means watching, listening, and reading things which are written by every tribe.

Labour Together have been accused of being Centrist dilletantes and an extension of Starmer. Al Jazeera, the publishers of The Labour Files have been accused of not giving insight, but to purely further their profile and the attitude to Israel of its owner, the Qatari state.

We have to acknowledge the editorial narrative in all the media we read, see and hear and base our own opinions on that which we consume.

Ultimately, I accept I can't change anyone's mind and wouldn't want to on issue of political choice.
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at 12:46 23 May 2024

I respect that completely and I wouldn't tell anyone to vote for any party - it's an individual choice based on that person's lived experience and context. I experienced antisemitism as a member of the Labour Party under Corbyn's watch and resigned from the party. I didn't vote for Labour in 2019 as a result.
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at 11:18 23 May 2024

I think you're right. There has been massive social change in this country since the 70s and the expectations people have are different now. There was a lot more 'knowing your place' and that's moved on. Class boundaries have blurred, the nature or work is different, we are living longer and are - generally - healthier.
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at 11:11 23 May 2024

Yes, both.

The strategy was wrong and the team were underprepared. Bob Kerslake, former head of the CS, audited his office to work out what was wrong. In Autumn 2019 he said Corbyn should find a political way of not having a GE for a while because of the underpreparedness.

Corbyn - and Seamus Milne - ignored him and went for it and lost.

Have you read Left Out: The Inside Story of Labour Under Corbyn?

Or Beyond the Red Wall: Why Labour Lost, How the Conservatives Won and What Will Happen Next?

Or The Fall of the Red Wall: 'The Labour Party no longer represents people like us'?

Or The Labour Together review? https://www.labourtogether.uk/all-reports/general-election-review-2019

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at 10:26 23 May 2024

Increasing your vote in places you're already winning, doesn't win elections. You have to win in places where you aren't winning AND hold seats you already have.

The loss was down to campaigning for the 25% of people who consider themselves to be left of centre and allowed the other parties to turn him into a hate figure. If you want to win elections it's no use preaching to the converted - you have to get buy in from the people who aren't interested and that's always been the problem with the harder left of Labour: the ongoing desire to protest and win the argument, rather than work co-operatively and win the elections.
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at 00:26 23 May 2024

Not quite right. The largest group - just over a third, identify themselves as centre-led. To move left of right is about a quarter of the electorate, and 1 in 6 don't know.

As Labour moved left last time they lost centre votes. The Conservatives have moved further right to appeal to their base and left the space open in the middle for Labour to retake the centre ground again.

It's interesting seeing the harder left attacking the centre; they see it as a sellout. However, it's the only way Labour will get into power. The desire to protest more than govern is strong in many on the far left.

Labour will win comfortably and if you can get anything other than an odds on bet pile on. Campaigning for 6 weeks might move 2-3% points but not enough to prevent a substantial win. The Conservatives will win 100-150 seats in total and be the largest opposition. However, expect Labour to win 470+ seats and a 150+ majority.
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Season Tickets on Sale
at 13:16 21 May 2024

Over 5k sold in the first week.

https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/may/21/fast-start-2425-season-ticket-sales/
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Eze Rumours
at 15:11 20 May 2024

Glasner yesterday talking about Olise and Eze:
“We showed them we have ambition, how we want to play, what pathway we want to go and which journey we want to ride together.

“They can all play a crucial part in it, show their qualities and strengths.

“They can express themselves and it fits together. This is what we can do. If something else happens, it’s part of football.”



https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/crystal-palace-michael-olise-eberechi-
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Which will be strongest
at 12:03 17 May 2024

Her point about 14 US owners is really interesting. If they voted for round of games in the States, there's nothing which could stop it.
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Up the Budgies in the Farke-Derby
at 11:52 17 May 2024

Their FFP will become problematic and they need some surgery in the squad. I can't see them being a challenge next season and feel they're likely to be long haul in the Championship now*.


*Obviously they'll walk the title next year now.
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Manisha Taylor
at 14:13 16 May 2024

And for people still wondering what this kind of stuff means, a quick glance at the Fest Hub story and the diversity of the kids here who might not become fans but will have a positive memory of QPR and tell others about it.

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Liam Rosenior
at 13:12 16 May 2024

That's so 2008. We were doing it before it became fashionable.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/qpr-exclusive-iain-dowie-sacked-732179
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QPR Boot Sale
at 12:38 15 May 2024

Hard agree - there needs to be a club shop in Westfield to catch passing trade. Westfield is one of the few sites where there is still footfall.
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Picked up a new”retro” 85/86 shirt yesterday
at 15:23 14 May 2024

Followed by your most unsurprising moments.
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Season Tickets on Sale
at 15:04 14 May 2024

Sensible.
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Rude songs thread
at 11:07 12 May 2024

IYKYK

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Manisha Taylor
at 15:48 10 May 2024

And your abstract is another person's lived experience.

I'll stop replying now; you're not going to change your mind and neither am I so there's no point boring people who disagree with either of us.
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