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Shamima Begum 14:52 - Feb 22 with 7912 viewsFlashberryjack

Shamima Begum has lost her appeal against the government's decision to remove her British citizenship and remains barred from returning to the UK.

Begum, now 23, left the country as a teenager to join the Islamic State (IS) group in Syria.

Personally, I'm glad she's been refused citizenship, but I just wonder how many times she can appeal against this decision, and who pays for her legal team, must be costing a fortune.

Thoughts ?


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Shamima Begum on 14:53 - Feb 25 with 1126 viewsGwyn737

Shamima Begum on 14:51 - Feb 25 by Flashberryjack

So where is she going to have a happy life then ?, no tidy country wants her.


I just think to guarantee her future she should be prosecuted here.

We’re in control then.
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Shamima Begum on 15:52 - Feb 25 with 1089 viewsFlashberryjack

Shamima Begum on 14:53 - Feb 25 by Gwyn737

I just think to guarantee her future she should be prosecuted here.

We’re in control then.


We are in control already, she's living in a shite hole and we are not paying for it.

She knows that once she sets foot in this country, she's in control.

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Shamima Begum on 16:11 - Feb 25 with 1080 viewsGwyn737

Shamima Begum on 15:52 - Feb 25 by Flashberryjack

We are in control already, she's living in a shite hole and we are not paying for it.

She knows that once she sets foot in this country, she's in control.


Does it work the other way then?

Any terrorist gets stripped of citizenship and the country they’re living in a has to sort them out?
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Shamima Begum on 16:17 - Feb 25 with 1076 viewsWingstandwood

Shamima Begum on 15:52 - Feb 25 by Flashberryjack

We are in control already, she's living in a shite hole and we are not paying for it.

She knows that once she sets foot in this country, she's in control.


Indeed, and even if she was sentenced and imprisoned in the U.K? It is predictable that the very same pseudo-do gooders who supported her will then be then off to the CCRC or Court Of Appeal to play the usual games, which at the end of the day is now being abused by the wrong kind of people. She has become a figurehead to be exploited.

Our legal system is now on many occasions being abused by lefty-loons and nut-jobs whose raison d'etre/motivation is to cause as much trouble for the police, the legal system, the government and the establishment.

That is why you have so many of these 'university innocence projects' that deny all damning evidence along with jury verdicts preffing to use lies, dodgy witnesses and irrelevant anomalies etc to get someone off. Even is she was jailed the usual suspects would come out of the woodwork and the whole thing would start all over again.

Argus!

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Shamima Begum on 16:40 - Feb 25 with 1056 viewsBoundy

Shamima Begum on 14:39 - Feb 25 by Gwyn737

So if she manages at some point in the future to build a happy life that’s ok? Or do we get her back then?


Who cares if she has a happy life , ask the parents of the kids murdered in the name of allah if they care ,or don't they count?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Shamima Begum on 16:48 - Feb 25 with 1050 viewsBadgeman

Shamima Begum on 16:40 - Feb 25 by Boundy

Who cares if she has a happy life , ask the parents of the kids murdered in the name of allah if they care ,or don't they count?


You don’t seem to care if she has a happy life or not. I want her to face justice, you want her to walk free.

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Shamima Begum on 16:57 - Feb 25 with 1047 viewsGwyn737

Shamima Begum on 16:40 - Feb 25 by Boundy

Who cares if she has a happy life , ask the parents of the kids murdered in the name of allah if they care ,or don't they count?


I care if she has a happy life. I want her prosecuted so she gets what she deserves.
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Shamima Begum on 17:34 - Feb 25 with 1023 viewsBoundy

Shamima Begum on 16:48 - Feb 25 by Badgeman

You don’t seem to care if she has a happy life or not. I want her to face justice, you want her to walk free.


Depends on your definition of freedom , I wonder if the families of all those murdered by ISIS would like to see her back here in the knowledge that with a high probability of her receiving a sentence of say 7 years as opposed to her being ostracised and denied all the benefits of living in a democratic wealthy nation ,sorry you can't always get what you want

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Shamima Begum on 17:43 - Feb 25 with 1017 viewsBadgeman

Shamima Begum on 17:34 - Feb 25 by Boundy

Depends on your definition of freedom , I wonder if the families of all those murdered by ISIS would like to see her back here in the knowledge that with a high probability of her receiving a sentence of say 7 years as opposed to her being ostracised and denied all the benefits of living in a democratic wealthy nation ,sorry you can't always get what you want


Yeah I bet the families of victims of ISIS are chuffed she’s walking around free to give interviews and make a spectacle of the country on an international stage. But according to you that’s not freedom lol.

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Shamima Begum on 17:57 - Feb 25 with 1013 viewsGwyn737

Shamima Begum on 17:43 - Feb 25 by Badgeman

Yeah I bet the families of victims of ISIS are chuffed she’s walking around free to give interviews and make a spectacle of the country on an international stage. But according to you that’s not freedom lol.


Yep.

I wonder how much money she’ll make out of this.

An absolute propaganda gift for the bad guys.
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Shamima Begum on 18:28 - Feb 25 with 990 viewsWingstandwood

Shamima Begum on 17:43 - Feb 25 by Badgeman

Yeah I bet the families of victims of ISIS are chuffed she’s walking around free to give interviews and make a spectacle of the country on an international stage. But according to you that’s not freedom lol.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11783581/Teacher-injured-Manchester-Are

Argus!

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Shamima Begum on 18:46 - Feb 25 with 978 viewsGwyn737

Shamima Begum on 18:28 - Feb 25 by Wingstandwood

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11783581/Teacher-injured-Manchester-Are


How is that the same?

The Manchester bombings - Two British born terrorists commit a horrific crime in Britain, are tried in Britain and sentenced in Britain. Quite right.

The cases would be more alike if the bombers escaped to Libya, had they’re citizenship taken away then did loads of media interviews wearing fashionable clothing and live out their lives with no accountability to the country impacted by their actions.
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Shamima Begum on 21:47 - Feb 25 with 931 viewsBoundy

Shamima Begum on 17:43 - Feb 25 by Badgeman

Yeah I bet the families of victims of ISIS are chuffed she’s walking around free to give interviews and make a spectacle of the country on an international stage. But according to you that’s not freedom lol.


She's living in a camp lol

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Shamima Begum on 21:55 - Feb 25 with 924 viewsPlankton

My thoughts?
UNLUCKY!
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Shamima Begum on 21:58 - Feb 25 with 922 viewsBadgeman

Shamima Begum on 21:47 - Feb 25 by Boundy

She's living in a camp lol


She should be in prison.

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Shamima Begum on 01:09 - Feb 26 with 892 viewsRobbie

I despair of any media oulet , the likes of tv , press , gossip magazines buying her pity me profile , I wear a baseball hat sideways and look cool in shades nonsense .

Lets welcome back a person who has no remorse over witnessing slaughter or worse .

Only one winner in this horrific affair , lawyers and ultimately legal aid soliciters .
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Shamima Begum on 11:00 - Feb 26 with 838 viewsKeithHaynes

Shamima Begum on 01:09 - Feb 26 by Robbie

I despair of any media oulet , the likes of tv , press , gossip magazines buying her pity me profile , I wear a baseball hat sideways and look cool in shades nonsense .

Lets welcome back a person who has no remorse over witnessing slaughter or worse .

Only one winner in this horrific affair , lawyers and ultimately legal aid soliciters .


And her bank account.

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Shamima Begum on 12:14 - Feb 26 with 815 viewsGwyn737

Shamima Begum on 11:00 - Feb 26 by KeithHaynes

And her bank account.


Exactly. Another issue with her not being our problem.
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Shamima Begum on 13:57 - Feb 26 with 789 viewsBoundy

Shamima Begum on 12:14 - Feb 26 by Gwyn737

Exactly. Another issue with her not being our problem.


I agree she'll become a wealthy goat herder.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Shamima Begum on 17:35 - Feb 26 with 736 viewsGwyn737

Shamima Begum on 13:57 - Feb 26 by Boundy

I agree she'll become a wealthy goat herder.


Who should be in jail.
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Shamima Begum on 18:56 - Feb 26 with 708 viewsFlashberryjack

Shamima Begum on 17:35 - Feb 26 by Gwyn737

Who should be in jail.


She is in jail, just not in this country.

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Shamima Begum on 21:19 - Feb 26 with 666 viewsBoundy

Shamima Begum on 17:35 - Feb 26 by Gwyn737

Who should be in jail.


Lots of people should be in jail, how long if she returned was put on trial (,found guilty ( no ones mentioned the fact that 12 just men and true could find her innocent ,there's enough in this country share her world view ) she could be out in 5 years free to peddle the filth which emanates from the followers of ISIS , have children , influence them as her family did to her , and the cycle continues

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Shamima Begum on 21:28 - Feb 26 with 655 viewsFlashberryjack

Shamima Begum on 21:19 - Feb 26 by Boundy

Lots of people should be in jail, how long if she returned was put on trial (,found guilty ( no ones mentioned the fact that 12 just men and true could find her innocent ,there's enough in this country share her world view ) she could be out in 5 years free to peddle the filth which emanates from the followers of ISIS , have children , influence them as her family did to her , and the cycle continues


No way would she actually serve 5 years.

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Shamima Begum on 21:47 - Feb 26 with 638 viewsBoundy

Shamima Begum on 21:28 - Feb 26 by Flashberryjack

No way would she actually serve 5 years.


But for some as long as she serves time in this country then all's right with the world ,this way ( as long as some soft soaked panel of judges decide otherwise) then her sentence is or life not 5 years or whatever it maybe then when released with a new identity out taking money off taxpayers to fund her for the rest of her life

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Shamima Begum on 22:01 - Feb 26 with 621 viewsWingstandwood

Shamima Begum on 21:28 - Feb 26 by Flashberryjack

No way would she actually serve 5 years.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tareena-shakil-isis-bride-uk-prison-

This one was jailed in 2016 and was released in 2019.

It's bleeding bloody obvious why some idiots desperately want easier justice just so that it can suit their own warped lefty-loon thinking. It's not about the victims, its not about prevention of future terrorist atrocities. it's not about the prevention of radicalisation, its not about punishment(s) ever fitting the crime.

An obvious pattern of behaviour has emerged over the years with: innocence fraud campaigns, defund the police, and repeated attacks on government legislation like deportation of foreign criminals etc.

It's now more than bleeding bloody obvious that lefty-loons are on the criminals and terrorists side.

Argus!

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