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It's not rocket science. You play players in their correct positions. You play two forwards together. NOT one on the wing to accommodate your fellow countryman in 'the No.10 role'.
Three games together . 4 goals. You're a f*ckwit. A bit like your old mate at Birmingham.
Is it really necessary to have a pop at a previous manager who had a middling record.
We may be attacking more, scoring more and getting a bit more luck but we still have a poor record overall and lost six games in a row which put us in real trouble. It may look a bit better after the last two games but we are way behind the top six whereas when he departed we were (points wise) right in the middle of the table.
Yes JFH could have tried different things but he didn't......end of!
Bit harsh on JFH. We've had much worse managers in the last ten years. Some financially dodgy, small minded and vindictive (and that's just Redknapp) others have been arrogant, some just clueless. JFH was out of his depth.
Is it really necessary to have a pop at a previous manager who had a middling record.
We may be attacking more, scoring more and getting a bit more luck but we still have a poor record overall and lost six games in a row which put us in real trouble. It may look a bit better after the last two games but we are way behind the top six whereas when he departed we were (points wise) right in the middle of the table.
Yes JFH could have tried different things but he didn't......end of!
We were 6 points off the drop when he went with 2 wins in his last 12 games, points wise we might not have been far off the playoffs but neither were Burton. We were a million miles away from challenging.
Results overall haven't been great under Holloway but style of play, work rate and being competitive in games has all been so much better
I actually wasnt in the JFH back our crowd but the one thing i never understood was the Washington signing....we clearly did our scouting and wanted him pretty badly despite the fact that anyone could see he was not a loan striker, so what did we buy him for? Glad we did, but it just didnt make sense given JFH system
Bit harsh on JFH. We've had much worse managers in the last ten years. Some financially dodgy, small minded and vindictive (and that's just Redknapp) others have been arrogant, some just clueless. JFH was out of his depth.
Is it??? Holloways experiment using Hall in midfield then dropping deep to defend has been a success don't you think??? In Lua Lua we've discovered someone who can actually play left midfield. Putting a succession of central midfielders there also brought the jeers from fans towards the likes of Cousins and Gladwin.
People on here slagged Washington off incessantly as he was a non scoring centre foward being played on the wing. People didn't think that bit relevant. Now he's being played up front, alongside another forward, he's scoring for fun.
I never rated JFH as manager from his first game until last..everything evolved around playing Chery whether he was performing or not. Plus he took EVERY free kick, corner etc rather poorly but nothing changed. There's a thread on here how Freeman is now taking corners along with Manning at times and we've also seen an improvement on that front as well.
I'm enjoying the football now more than I have in a long, long time, and we might just be going in the right direction, but if you want a manager known for "playing players in their correct positions," really not sure Holloway is your man. (What was it back in the day, Rose at LB, Steve Palmer in central midfield and Gallen left wing?)
I wanted Hasselbaink gone by the end as well, but he was an inexperienced manager, who the club bought in after we'd been continually let down by supposedly experienced safe pairs of hands. He made mistakes, the football was sht, he gave boring interviews. He also left us in mid table, with some promising players in the squad. No need to be bitter about it.
We were 6 points off the drop when he went with 2 wins in his last 12 games, points wise we might not have been far off the playoffs but neither were Burton. We were a million miles away from challenging.
Results overall haven't been great under Holloway but style of play, work rate and being competitive in games has all been so much better
Do you want to do stats again, Dave?
Even now, Holloway still comes off worse. Not by much, but still worse.
Is it??? Holloways experiment using Hall in midfield then dropping deep to defend has been a success don't you think??? In Lua Lua we've discovered someone who can actually play left midfield. Putting a succession of central midfielders there also brought the jeers from fans towards the likes of Cousins and Gladwin.
People on here slagged Washington off incessantly as he was a non scoring centre foward being played on the wing. People didn't think that bit relevant. Now he's being played up front, alongside another forward, he's scoring for fun.
I never rated JFH as manager from his first game until last..everything evolved around playing Chery whether he was performing or not. Plus he took EVERY free kick, corner etc rather poorly but nothing changed. There's a thread on here how Freeman is now taking corners along with Manning at times and we've also seen an improvement on that front as well.
Maybe he'd have played Lua Lua there if he had been at the club?
Chery created most of our chances, scored 14 goals in about 16 months. Early in the season people criticised his assist record, but he made more chances than anyone else in the league - they just weren't being put away.
But that's all in the past.
Remind me how well Wszolek did playing at right wing back the other week?
All managers make mistakes.
Bare bones.
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Is it??? Holloways experiment using Hall in midfield then dropping deep to defend has been a success don't you think??? In Lua Lua we've discovered someone who can actually play left midfield. Putting a succession of central midfielders there also brought the jeers from fans towards the likes of Cousins and Gladwin.
People on here slagged Washington off incessantly as he was a non scoring centre foward being played on the wing. People didn't think that bit relevant. Now he's being played up front, alongside another forward, he's scoring for fun.
I never rated JFH as manager from his first game until last..everything evolved around playing Chery whether he was performing or not. Plus he took EVERY free kick, corner etc rather poorly but nothing changed. There's a thread on here how Freeman is now taking corners along with Manning at times and we've also seen an improvement on that front as well.
I didn't compare JFH to Holloway. I welcomed Oliie and I was glad to see the back of JFH but I don't think he deserves this slagging off. He did his best but failed. He wasn't a greedy, lying, manipulative tvvat. He didn't spend millions and leave the club in the sh1t.
I didn't compare JFH to Holloway. I welcomed Oliie and I was glad to see the back of JFH but I don't think he deserves this slagging off. He did his best but failed. He wasn't a greedy, lying, manipulative tvvat. He didn't spend millions and leave the club in the sh1t.
Agree 100%!... It simply was not very entertaining under Jimmy. He managed to get results when the performances were poor which probably shows that he is a good manager. Ollie has made some mistakes but its entertaining watching QPR at the mo.
"Style of play, work rate, competitive" are subjective and can be argued - points per game can't, although Dave seems to be having a good go over a number of weeks!
"Style of play, work rate, competitive" are subjective and can be argued - points per game can't, although Dave seems to be having a good go over a number of weeks!
They're pretty close now in any case aren't they?
Yes, and I really can't see us getting relegated from here.
"...style of play, work rate and being competitive in games [whatever that means without getting points]" don't have anything to do with it.
Were you really on a QPR podcast? Did you act dumb on that, too?
Bit uncalled for to call me dumb because I disagree with you but no I didn't act dumb on the podcast, it comes naturally to me.
I'll give it one last go but in my opinion the performances of the team have been better under Holloway, we have more of a game plan, we attack as a unit getting more men in the box rather than hope Chery or Matt Phillips create something. We win the ball back quicker and are not letting teams play through us and are defending a lot better as a team and have a game plan on how to stop teams. We've not been great in every match but overall it seems better to me and I enjoy going to matches now, I didn't enjoy it under Hasselbaink regardless of how many points he won.
I've never said Holloways record is better but I feel performances matter and results follow when you get a team playing with a plan which is starting to happen so overall we look a better team now in better shape to do well.
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