| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread 20:33 - Apr 7 with 84607 views | exiledclaseboy |
About time we had one and it's got the word "official" in the title so that makes all the difference. If a mod wants to sticky it, feel free.
I seem to remember that five years ago (on the old, better Planet Swans) we got to nearly 100 pages and then another 60odd with the "aftermath" thread. They were good fun but there were more posters then and we were all a bit more tolerant of others' views. Let's try to be nice to each other, eh.
Anyway, best site for opinion polls is this one in my experience:
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
Polls are so tight the only conclusion is that the Tories and Labour are head to head nationwide. Can't put a whisker between them.
Tories need about 39-40% for an overall majority. Labour will probably get one on 36-37%. God bless our ridiculous voting system.
So, enjoy yourselves. I'll start with a prediction. Labour to win most seats but slightly fewer votes than the Tories and end up forming some kind of minority government with support from various parliamentary lefties on a vote by vote basis. And then all of a sudden many Tory supporters will discover that they've always hated first past the post and can't understand why we perpetuate a system under which the party which more people voted for than any other can lose the election. It'll be quite funny and lead to calls for a proper voting system. Which everyone will forget about in six months when all the fuss has died down.
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 20:48 - Apr 21 with 2045 views | jackonicko |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 20:39 - Apr 21 by libertine |
what about a borgen coalition
that seems to work sometimes |
Aye. But only for about three series.
Denmark TV never commissioned the fourth. |  | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:08 - Apr 22 with 1956 views | trampie |
Pity that the Labour First Minister for Wales and the Conservative leader in Wales will apparently not be taking on Plaids Leanne Wood [and others] in tonight's Welsh leaders debate, injured ? or perhaps instructed by their bosses in London not to take part in case they got a political kicking ? or perhaps they just didn't fancy it ? |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:32 - Apr 22 with 1936 views | Kerouac |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:08 - Apr 22 by trampie |
Pity that the Labour First Minister for Wales and the Conservative leader in Wales will apparently not be taking on Plaids Leanne Wood [and others] in tonight's Welsh leaders debate, injured ? or perhaps instructed by their bosses in London not to take part in case they got a political kicking ? or perhaps they just didn't fancy it ? |
I'd expect that from the Tories but I find Carwyn ducking out of this thoroughly reprehensible.
He is the first minister of Wales. His administration in the Assembly are responsible for a lot of what happens in Wales and yet he is obviously refusing to give the opposition a platform just in case he is held accountable.
Not to mention the hypocrisy of the Labour party giving Cameron a kicking for ducking a 1 on 1 debate with Milliband only to do this in Wales.
The Labour party are taking the piss out of Wales and laughing up their sleeves.
They are taking us for granted. |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:37 - Apr 22 with 1930 views | Lohengrin |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:08 - Apr 22 by trampie |
Pity that the Labour First Minister for Wales and the Conservative leader in Wales will apparently not be taking on Plaids Leanne Wood [and others] in tonight's Welsh leaders debate, injured ? or perhaps instructed by their bosses in London not to take part in case they got a political kicking ? or perhaps they just didn't fancy it ? |
I somehow doubt that, Trampie. Leanne Wood lacks the ability to even regurgitate threadbare soundbites without reference to notes much less thrive at extempore debate.
Rouge she may be, but Dolores Ibarruri she most certainly is not.  |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:40 - Apr 22 with 1925 views | Lohengrin |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:32 - Apr 22 by Kerouac |
I'd expect that from the Tories but I find Carwyn ducking out of this thoroughly reprehensible.
He is the first minister of Wales. His administration in the Assembly are responsible for a lot of what happens in Wales and yet he is obviously refusing to give the opposition a platform just in case he is held accountable.
Not to mention the hypocrisy of the Labour party giving Cameron a kicking for ducking a 1 on 1 debate with Milliband only to do this in Wales.
The Labour party are taking the piss out of Wales and laughing up their sleeves.
They are taking us for granted. |
Show your contempt where it matters on May 7th. | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 11:25 - Apr 22 with 1899 views | libertine |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:40 - Apr 22 by Lohengrin |
Show your contempt where it matters on May 7th. |
i'm not with you lohegrin !
who are you saying to vote for? |  | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:04 - Apr 22 with 1879 views | Uxbridge |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 20:48 - Apr 21 by jackonicko |
Aye. But only for about three series.
Denmark TV never commissioned the fourth. |
Now we're on to proper stuff. I picked up the boxset last week but haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Any good?
As for the election stuff, I look forward to the traditional election night of a big pizza, bottle of Grey Goose and watching ECB panic on here. It should be fun  |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:19 - Apr 22 with 1870 views | jackonicko |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:04 - Apr 22 by Uxbridge |
Now we're on to proper stuff. I picked up the boxset last week but haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Any good?
As for the election stuff, I look forward to the traditional election night of a big pizza, bottle of Grey Goose and watching ECB panic on here. It should be fun |
It's not The Killing - in particular there are not enough jumpers worn - but I enjoyed it.
How they ever got the concept of a political drama about Denmark coalition politics through the commissioning editors, I'll never know. But glad they did. | | | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:20 - Apr 22 with 1869 views | WarwickHunt |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:04 - Apr 22 by Uxbridge |
Now we're on to proper stuff. I picked up the boxset last week but haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Any good?
As for the election stuff, I look forward to the traditional election night of a big pizza, bottle of Grey Goose and watching ECB panic on here. It should be fun |
Superb.
However, if it was utter tripe I'd still watch it for the lovely Birgitte... |  | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 13:00 - Apr 22 with 1845 views | Lohengrin |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 11:25 - Apr 22 by libertine |
i'm not with you lohegrin !
who are you saying to vote for? |
I was simply reminding Kerouac that he had a chance to give vent to his disapproval on May 7th. Election day. | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 13:18 - Apr 22 with 1826 views | scottishjack |
A good read that...thanks. |  | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 16:16 - Apr 22 with 1765 views | Cottsy |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:32 - Apr 22 by Kerouac |
I'd expect that from the Tories but I find Carwyn ducking out of this thoroughly reprehensible.
He is the first minister of Wales. His administration in the Assembly are responsible for a lot of what happens in Wales and yet he is obviously refusing to give the opposition a platform just in case he is held accountable.
Not to mention the hypocrisy of the Labour party giving Cameron a kicking for ducking a 1 on 1 debate with Milliband only to do this in Wales.
The Labour party are taking the piss out of Wales and laughing up their sleeves.
They are taking us for granted. |
Its not a Welsh Government election though?
TV debates are worthless enough as it is, what use would a debate be where not one of the panel are actually standing for election? |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 16:20 - Apr 22 with 1762 views | Lohengrin |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 16:16 - Apr 22 by Cottsy |
Its not a Welsh Government election though?
TV debates are worthless enough as it is, what use would a debate be where not one of the panel are actually standing for election? |
A gormless, bought collective spouting inanities. That's the story of British politics for the last quarter century, Cotts. | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 18:54 - Apr 22 with 1716 views | Kerouac |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 16:16 - Apr 22 by Cottsy |
Its not a Welsh Government election though?
TV debates are worthless enough as it is, what use would a debate be where not one of the panel are actually standing for election? |
Good point but...
Is the Welsh Labour party not out on the doorsteps campaigning for a Milliband government in Westminster?
I think so.
Do you watch First Ministers Questions in the Assembly?
At every opportunity Carwyn seeks to avoid being held to account by diverting the argument towards Westminster politics. He holds the coalition government responsible for everything that goes wrong under his own administration.
He attacks Cameron and the Tories.
He attacks Clegg and the Lib Dems.
He bigs up Milliband and the Labour party.
You know as well as I do that the reason Carwyn is refusing to debate with Leanne Wood on national TV is because Labour Valley votes are the votes Plaid Cymru are after and need.
He is happy with the status quo and won't risk being made a fool of on Welsh TV as he has everything to lose and Plaid have everything to gain.
It's exactly the same reason why Cameron wasn't keen on sharing too much air time with UKIP and wouldn't debate with Milliband 1 on 1.
It's pure cynicism.
Don't you think the Welsh voters about to vote in the UK election deserve to hear from the leaders aspect of the UK election debated the leaders | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 18:55 - Apr 22 with 1716 views | Kerouac |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 16:16 - Apr 22 by Cottsy |
Its not a Welsh Government election though?
TV debates are worthless enough as it is, what use would a debate be where not one of the panel are actually standing for election? |
Good point but...
Is the Welsh Labour party not out on the doorsteps campaigning for a Milliband government in Westminster?
I think so.
Do you watch First Ministers Questions in the Assembly?
At every opportunity Carwyn seeks to avoid being held to account by diverting the argument towards Westminster politics. He holds the coalition government responsible for everything that goes wrong under his own administration.
He attacks Cameron and the Tories.
He attacks Clegg and the Lib Dems.
He bigs up Milliband and the Labour party.
You know as well as I do that the reason Carwyn is refusing to debate with Leanne Wood on national TV is because Labour Valley votes are the votes Plaid Cymru are after and need.
He is happy with the status quo and won't risk being made a fool of on Welsh TV as he has everything to lose and Plaid have everything to gain.
It's exactly the same reason why Cameron wasn't keen on sharing too much air time with UKIP and wouldn't debate with Milliband 1 on 1.
It's pure cynicism.
Don't you think the Welsh voters about to vote in the UK election deserve to hear from the Welsh leaders of the respective parties debating the aspects of the election that effect Wales? | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:10 - Apr 22 with 1707 views | exiledclaseboy |
Arthur Scargill launched the Socialist Labour Party manifesto in Port Talbot today. Top entertainment it was. Scargill is living proof that the old adage that claims you get more right wing as you get older is nonsense. | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:16 - Apr 22 with 1704 views | Lohengrin |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:10 - Apr 22 by exiledclaseboy |
Arthur Scargill launched the Socialist Labour Party manifesto in Port Talbot today. Top entertainment it was. Scargill is living proof that the old adage that claims you get more right wing as you get older is nonsense. |
I saw him speak in The Unitarian Church on High Street when he said that British soldiers killed in Ulster could have no complaint.
There's a special place in Hell reserved for reds, I've no doubts on that score whatever. | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:27 - Apr 22 with 1695 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:16 - Apr 22 by Lohengrin |
I saw him speak in The Unitarian Church on High Street when he said that British soldiers killed in Ulster could have no complaint.
There's a special place in Hell reserved for reds, I've no doubts on that score whatever. |
All reds? Even me? You beast. | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:53 - Apr 22 with 1678 views | Lohengrin |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:45 - Apr 22 by exiledclaseboy |
Ha, nice. It's the shaved head that gives me away. |
The good table manners betrayed you. The swine have none.
Kudos to Mam! | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:58 - Apr 22 with 1670 views | longlostjack |
Farage has just taken a hammering on the BBC interview IMO |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 20:04 - Apr 22 with 1658 views | Lohengrin |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:58 - Apr 22 by longlostjack |
Farage has just taken a hammering on the BBC interview IMO |
A safety valve is only of use so long as there is pressure. The BNP are finished, the media, the journaille, have no need to big-up UKIP any longer.
Bye Nige!  | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 21:37 - Apr 22 with 1615 views | Dr_Winston |
I quite liked Scargill's party's approach to faith schools. And the EU.
The rest of it is obvious nonsense of course, but those bits were good. |  |
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