| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. 10:00 - Aug 4 with 11242 views | Jackfath |
It's been written many times on here, but what really is the reason(s) that this isn't happening. Do we as fans have a right to know what is really going on and the reasons why it hasn't happened? Look at the speed the CCFC built their to tier, little fuss and it was done, it makes us as their big idols seem somewhat backward.
Should there be an "inquest" into what's going on so we all know where we stand? Pun intended. |  |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 22:15 - Aug 5 with 1802 views | xmastree |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 16:31 - Aug 5 by dgt73 |
Well i think he looks a scruffy tw@t, but each to their own i suppose. |
Put simply, once again,none of us has a clue what is going on. Its nice to summise tho. You would think we are all sitting around the board room table discussing the way forward. We arent and we can all chuck figures into the pot but in reality we know nothing about what is happening. |  | | |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 22:36 - Aug 5 with 1755 views | longlostjack |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 22:15 - Aug 5 by xmastree |
Put simply, once again,none of us has a clue what is going on. Its nice to summise tho. You would think we are all sitting around the board room table discussing the way forward. We arent and we can all chuck figures into the pot but in reality we know nothing about what is happening. |
I thought this thread threw up a lot of interesting points. It would be a dull old world if nobody voiced an opinion because they weren't aware of all the facts. |  |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 00:43 - Aug 6 with 1666 views | Dull1Thomas |
The Cardiff site could easily be developed.
The infrastructure for parking, ingress and egress didn't impact on the residential areas.
Cardiff owned the ground & don't share (after the Blues told them where to stick it).
Tan got to lend them more money and look forward to more interest.
They believed they were going to win the Champions League and needed more space for the 10s of thousands of RealMadrid fans who would want to pay homage to the home of Craig Bellamy.
Welsh FA Pushed for extra seating to bid for European Cup games to be hosted in Wales. | |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 06:19 - Aug 6 with 1623 views | Dr_Winston |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 15:04 - Aug 5 by JackSomething |
If that's the case, why wasn't buying the stadium before expanding mentioned at all by the club during our first 2 seasons in the Prem? There was plenty of talk about 'work starting in January' of our second season in this league, but no mention of having to own the stadium first.
It's hard to avoid the conclusion that the main reason to buy the stadium is to make the club more attractive to potential investors/buyers. |
As soon as the idea of selling up to whatever random billionaire pitched up gained traction the will to expand decreased. No doubt in my mind that certain parties would have preferred to have cashed in before having to find the money to fund it.
It's only really since that deal fell through the more noises have been made about expansion. |  |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 14:45 - Aug 6 with 1487 views | whiterock |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 06:19 - Aug 6 by Dr_Winston |
As soon as the idea of selling up to whatever random billionaire pitched up gained traction the will to expand decreased. No doubt in my mind that certain parties would have preferred to have cashed in before having to find the money to fund it.
It's only really since that deal fell through the more noises have been made about expansion. |
Was always a timing thing, my priority would have been
1 Squad acquisition
2 First team training facilities
3 Expansion, both phases
4 Category One and all that entails (Landore etc)
5 Purchase
1 and 2 had to happen but others could have been swapped | | | |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 15:29 - Aug 6 with 1460 views | swans11 |
Need just get on with it. They have now taken deposits from people so just start it asap. Interesting to see how many have paid deposit I have and until they build it can't see much hope getting a season ticket with so few becoming available. Could go every game but won't be paying the over the odds match day prices compared to season ticket match price | | | |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 16:13 - Aug 6 with 1436 views | whiterock |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 15:29 - Aug 6 by swans11 |
Need just get on with it. They have now taken deposits from people so just start it asap. Interesting to see how many have paid deposit I have and until they build it can't see much hope getting a season ticket with so few becoming available. Could go every game but won't be paying the over the odds match day prices compared to season ticket match price |
So do you know if there 6000 who's paid deposits? perhaps its 50? | | | |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 16:42 - Aug 6 with 1403 views | ApeShit |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 15:29 - Aug 6 by swans11 |
Need just get on with it. They have now taken deposits from people so just start it asap. Interesting to see how many have paid deposit I have and until they build it can't see much hope getting a season ticket with so few becoming available. Could go every game but won't be paying the over the odds match day prices compared to season ticket match price |
I'm guessing that deposit scheme was set up to gauge how many people out there are serious about buying a season ticket. If there are not enough I think they'll scrap the expansion and refund deposits.
Obviously they won't admit to that though. |  | | |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 17:19 - Aug 6 with 1380 views | airedale |
If the Trust owned the stadium, then it could be expanded etc with no fear of billionaire vultures swooping.
Billionaires could then do one. |  | | |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 17:25 - Aug 6 with 1375 views | Dr_Winston |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 14:45 - Aug 6 by whiterock |
Was always a timing thing, my priority would have been
1 Squad acquisition
2 First team training facilities
3 Expansion, both phases
4 Category One and all that entails (Landore etc)
5 Purchase
1 and 2 had to happen but others could have been swapped |
I just don't get why outright purchase is now such a priority unless you want to use the stadium as an asset to add value to any sale price. | |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 17:35 - Aug 6 with 1366 views | jasper_T |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 17:25 - Aug 6 by Dr_Winston |
I just don't get why outright purchase is now such a priority unless you want to use the stadium as an asset to add value to any sale price. |
Long-term it's more profitable to the club to invest in improving something they own than something they don't.
Also gives the club more direct control over design and scheduling of future phases. | | | |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 17:56 - Aug 6 with 1337 views | Private_Partz |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 17:35 - Aug 6 by jasper_T |
Long-term it's more profitable to the club to invest in improving something they own than something they don't.
Also gives the club more direct control over design and scheduling of future phases. |
This could be true but it would mean maximising the use of the place. Look at the problems they have up the road in utilising their facilities. Albeit they have a bloody site more. I suspect profits would not be that great. Not enough to justify the outlay anyway. |  |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:00 - Aug 6 with 1325 views | Borojack |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 17:56 - Aug 6 by Private_Partz |
This could be true but it would mean maximising the use of the place. Look at the problems they have up the road in utilising their facilities. Albeit they have a bloody site more. I suspect profits would not be that great. Not enough to justify the outlay anyway. |
Owning the stadium makes it more sellable to vultures i mean investors.
The club has little to gain by owning the stadium.
The shareholders on the other hand have plenty to gain. |  |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:18 - Aug 6 with 1302 views | Neath_Jack |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 17:35 - Aug 6 by jasper_T |
Long-term it's more profitable to the club to invest in improving something they own than something they don't.
Also gives the club more direct control over design and scheduling of future phases. |
Nothing to do with that.
Greed and the potential extra pounds to be made when the next takeover bid comes along. |  |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:24 - Aug 6 with 1296 views | Borojack |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:18 - Aug 6 by Neath_Jack |
Nothing to do with that.
Greed and the potential extra pounds to be made when the next takeover bid comes along. |
We pay peppercorn rent.
The shareholders have done a fantastic job but everyone has there price.
I would feel a lot more comfortable with a public owned stadium. | |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:29 - Aug 6 with 1287 views | swans11 |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 16:13 - Aug 6 by whiterock |
So do you know if there 6000 who's paid deposits? perhaps its 50? |
Have no idea that's why I said interesting see how many paid deposit | | | |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:36 - Aug 6 with 1265 views | jasper_T |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:18 - Aug 6 by Neath_Jack |
Nothing to do with that.
Greed and the potential extra pounds to be made when the next takeover bid comes along. |
Hence "profitable to the club". | | | |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:40 - Aug 6 with 1261 views | Neath_Jack |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:36 - Aug 6 by jasper_T |
Hence "profitable to the club". |
It won't be profitable to the club though, it will go into the shareholders pockets.
Massive difference. | |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:48 - Aug 6 with 1243 views | Borojack |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 18:36 - Aug 6 by jasper_T |
Hence "profitable to the club". |
I have to agree with Neath the shareholders will be the big winners
not the club.
The club would be in a very vunerable position. | |
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| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 19:17 - Aug 6 with 1213 views | Uxbridge |
| Continued lack of progress with building an extension to the stadium. on 17:25 - Aug 6 by Dr_Winston |
I just don't get why outright purchase is now such a priority unless you want to use the stadium as an asset to add value to any sale price. |
There is an argument that ownership gives us more clout regarding stadium naming, running etc and that it makes more sense to substantially upgrade an asset that you own.
Personally I don't subscribe to that entirely, or that with an amenable plan with the council it needs to be either/or. I'd like to see us own the ground but for me expansion needs to be our #1 priority. |  |
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