| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 09:31 - Oct 1 with 1572 views | trampie |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 08:24 - Oct 1 by waynekerr55 |
What are you expectations of them, Trampie? |
I would guess Charlotte and Leanne agreeing on lots of stuff although Charlotte seems to be her own woman so there is no guarantee, Kinnock to be a true Tory although he will spin things because Corbyn is now the leader. |  |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 10:32 - Oct 1 with 1547 views | trampie |
I heard that Leanne and Bethan were in the Bluebell in Neath the other day, I wonder if Darran went to see them ? | |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 11:01 - Oct 1 with 1542 views | blueytheblue |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 09:31 - Oct 1 by trampie |
I would guess Charlotte and Leanne agreeing on lots of stuff although Charlotte seems to be her own woman so there is no guarantee, Kinnock to be a true Tory although he will spin things because Corbyn is now the leader. |
Charlotte's her own person?
Tried to be Victoria Beckham with her marriage to Henson... now trying to be a female Russell brand...
She'll whine about companies not paying tax whilst conveniently ignoring the companies he's a director of use the services of an accountancy firm who advertise their skill at avoiding tax... |  |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 11:44 - Oct 1 with 1525 views | Lord_Bony |
She came and bought something off me once...lovely lass |  |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 13:59 - Oct 1 with 1489 views | waynekerr55 |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 11:44 - Oct 1 by Lord_Bony |
She came and bought something off me once...lovely lass |
W ass he ari goo dlass? |  |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 14:15 - Oct 1 with 1483 views | Lord_Bony |
Isee youve taken advanced lessonens in Perchspeak win..i cu nt translatE tAt | |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 14:41 - Oct 1 with 1468 views | perchrockjack |
No, that course on Grammar Anarchy is well gone so you ll just have to wait until Im arsed to do another.
Reading this thread though is something else .
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 20:32 - Oct 1 with 1405 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 20:44 - Sep 30 by exiledclaseboy |
No, sorry. It's the executive which yes is the PM and cabinet but in practice only the PM can exercise the royal prerogative and authorise war. Given collective responsibility though if the cabinet didn't agree they could resign en masse or the PM could if he or she so chose. The only no confidence vote that could forcibly oust a PM is that of parliament not the cabinet. Parliament isn't and never has been required to authorise war. If a government goes to Parliament for a vote before taking action it's a political manoeuvre to ensure cross party backing before taking such drastic action. Blair did it and won, Cameron did it and didn't.
Interestingly, Corbyn's on record as saying that he believes that the royal prerogative in this area should be scrapped and that Parliament should be the final arbiter of when the uk goes to war.
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To clarify - I meant that the NC vote would come from the house rather than the cabinet.
There has been a lot of talk though about the precedent that Cameron set - the issue I believe, is that it's the first time that Parliament voted against the recommendation of the executive and the executive then followed the vote. I have no idea though - I am no parliamentary constitutional person and I imagine you know far more than I do whether that is indeed the case.
I must say that I thought his related comments on 9/11 were ill advised. I'm also not certain that his current tack of 'well everyone voted for me so I'll do what I want' fits in with his 'caring, sharing, collegiate' style. The biggest issue in this whole thing though is that it looks like a quite staged attempt of separation by Eagle (and Benn possibly) which doesn't bode well. | | | |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 20:37 - Oct 1 with 1403 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 20:32 - Oct 1 by londonlisa2001 |
To clarify - I meant that the NC vote would come from the house rather than the cabinet.
There has been a lot of talk though about the precedent that Cameron set - the issue I believe, is that it's the first time that Parliament voted against the recommendation of the executive and the executive then followed the vote. I have no idea though - I am no parliamentary constitutional person and I imagine you know far more than I do whether that is indeed the case.
I must say that I thought his related comments on 9/11 were ill advised. I'm also not certain that his current tack of 'well everyone voted for me so I'll do what I want' fits in with his 'caring, sharing, collegiate' style. The biggest issue in this whole thing though is that it looks like a quite staged attempt of separation by Eagle (and Benn possibly) which doesn't bode well. |
The precedent is a red herring. They'd have to change the royal prerogative to make Parliament the final arbiter of declarations of war. There have actually been a few tentative attempts to do that in recent years but they didn't get anywhere. That power currently lies firmly with the executive (in practice the PM) ostensibly acting on behalf of the Queen.
For the record I'm not saying I agree with the status quo it's just the way it is. Although the thought of having to bring Parliament together to authorise force before a government can take action does seem to be to be a bit unwieldy and frankly a bit silly. |  |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 13:46 - Oct 2 with 1342 views | waynekerr55 |
Any feedback on last night's SOIREE from Caerdydd. How did the good socialist CHURCH do? | |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 14:52 - Oct 2 with 1318 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 20:37 - Oct 1 by exiledclaseboy |
The precedent is a red herring. They'd have to change the royal prerogative to make Parliament the final arbiter of declarations of war. There have actually been a few tentative attempts to do that in recent years but they didn't get anywhere. That power currently lies firmly with the executive (in practice the PM) ostensibly acting on behalf of the Queen.
For the record I'm not saying I agree with the status quo it's just the way it is. Although the thought of having to bring Parliament together to authorise force before a government can take action does seem to be to be a bit unwieldy and frankly a bit silly. |
Fair enough.
The matter will transparently not come to that anyway if the remarks made by Kinnock the Younger on QT last night are anything to go by. | | | |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 14:52 - Oct 2 with 1317 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 13:46 - Oct 2 by waynekerr55 |
Any feedback on last night's SOIREE from Caerdydd. How did the good socialist CHURCH do? |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 15:18 - Oct 2 with 1302 views | waynekerr55 |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 14:52 - Oct 2 by londonlisa2001 |
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Do tell me more, LISA! | |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 15:46 - Oct 2 with 1289 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 15:18 - Oct 2 by waynekerr55 |
Do tell me more, LISA! |
oh she was just useless. Badly informed, badly researched, trying to use long words to sound more like Brand, incoherent for most of it, unable to construct an actual argument.
Her and Leanne Wood both gave the impression of being two women they'd found in the street outside and asked them if they fancied being on a programme.
QT's obsession with using 'celebrities' can be occasionally informative and interesting, but only if the 'celebrity' chosen is in some way brighter than the average potato. She came over as nothing more than a fading star who is desperately trying to burn brightly again - she may be better off choosing a different path. | | | |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 16:03 - Oct 2 with 1273 views | londonlisa2001 |
Funnily enough, I understood what she was getting at with this bit. She was trying to explain why weather changes in the region led to the mass migration from rural to urban areas, thus putting more strain on an already fragile political situation in the big cities of the region.
The problem was that she was not able to convey the point, since she'd obviously read something along those lines, without understanding it or being able o explain it in anyway that avoided her sounding stupid.
She's not bright enough to be able to do what she's trying to do - unfortunately she seems to think she is. | | | |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 18:33 - Oct 2 with 1238 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 16:03 - Oct 2 by londonlisa2001 |
Funnily enough, I understood what she was getting at with this bit. She was trying to explain why weather changes in the region led to the mass migration from rural to urban areas, thus putting more strain on an already fragile political situation in the big cities of the region.
The problem was that she was not able to convey the point, since she'd obviously read something along those lines, without understanding it or being able o explain it in anyway that avoided her sounding stupid.
She's not bright enough to be able to do what she's trying to do - unfortunately she seems to think she is. |
Maybe so but at least she was bright enough to dig a bit deeper and research it properly. I feel a bit sorry for her getting pelters for simply repeating what academics were already saying |  |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 18:47 - Oct 2 with 1232 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 18:33 - Oct 2 by Brynmill_Jack |
Maybe so but at least she was bright enough to dig a bit deeper and research it properly. I feel a bit sorry for her getting pelters for simply repeating what academics were already saying |
I don't think she did research it properly Brynnie. It sounded incoherent and badly explained.
As I said - I understood the point she was trying to make and it's an interesting one - I just think that she is doing herself no favours by trying to appear knowledgeable and profound when she isn't. | | | |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 19:26 - Oct 2 with 1226 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 11:59 - Sep 30 by Highjack |
Why shouldn't we be grateful for what we have? We all live in warm houses with food on the table with little threat of horrific diseases or war. We all have the latest electrical goods or can pop out in the car for a nice drive.
Fact is we are better off and living more comfortably in this country than 99.9% of all the humans who have ever lived. We shouldn't lose sight of that and realise how well off we are. Of course things can be improved but the way people go on you'd think we were all starving. |
Yes, some people have got washing machines and everything mind!
Is this the political/economic equivalent of BYHOFS?
And whilst some people are undoubtedly bobbing along in fine fashion, there are a lot more on zero hours contracts struggling to make ends meet , many in fuel poverty and there's those unlucky enough to rely on benefits which are now being denied them by a millionaire who claimed he could live on £58 a week.
Jeremy Corbin stands primarily for a much more egalitarian society as opposed to the current lopsided status quo? Is that such a bad thing? | |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 23:23 - Oct 2 with 1184 views | WarwickHunt |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 15:46 - Oct 2 by londonlisa2001 |
oh she was just useless. Badly informed, badly researched, trying to use long words to sound more like Brand, incoherent for most of it, unable to construct an actual argument.
Her and Leanne Wood both gave the impression of being two women they'd found in the street outside and asked them if they fancied being on a programme.
QT's obsession with using 'celebrities' can be occasionally informative and interesting, but only if the 'celebrity' chosen is in some way brighter than the average potato. She came over as nothing more than a fading star who is desperately trying to burn brightly again - she may be better off choosing a different path. |
They were both excruciating. Thicker than mince, the pair of them.
Trampie probably loved it though. |  | | |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 23:25 - Oct 2 with 1179 views | Dr_Winston |
People who look to someone as catastrophically stupid as Charlotte Church for political guidance should have the vote taken off them.
As each day passes I become more convinced that voting should be an earned privilege and not a right.
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 23:33 - Oct 2 with 1171 views | skippyjack |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 23:25 - Oct 2 by Dr_Winston |
People who look to someone as catastrophically stupid as Charlotte Church for political guidance should have the vote taken off them.
As each day passes I become more convinced that voting should be an earned privilege and not a right.
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You can have my vote.. it rarely counts for f*ck all anyway |  |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 09:28 - Oct 3 with 1103 views | Gowerjack |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 23:33 - Oct 2 by skippyjack |
You can have my vote.. it rarely counts for f*ck all anyway |
Nonsense.
It carries exactly the same weight as everyone else's. |  |
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| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 09:34 - Oct 3 with 1102 views | Jack_Meoff |
| The Jeremy Corbyn thread part two on 23:33 - Oct 2 by skippyjack |
You can have my vote.. it rarely counts for f*ck all anyway |
Take out rarely and you're spot on. Under FPTP there was absolutely no point in me leaving the house on polling day. In Swansea East you could pin a red rosette on a corpse and it would get in as the area's MP. And 24% of the populace voting for them results in a Tory majority - hideous. Democracy my arse. |  |
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